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Parent and child spaces should be for those with children 5 and under

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seize · 03/04/2024 16:41

Parent-child parking spaces at supermarkets should be reserved primarily for those with children aged 5 and under, aside from older children with special needs (although a blue badge might be more appropriate where they meet the criteria, in these cases).

I was alone with my 4 month old today, the trolleys with the baby seats are kept next to these spaces. The spaces which have the easiest access to the trolleys had all been taken with the last taken by someone just before me, I reversed into a space around the corner and the driver was shaking their head at me, presumedly because their space only had extra room on one side and my space came up to them (see picture). I was surprised to then see them get out with a child of about 13. I saw multiple other people using these spaces with children looking like teenagers. I was able to get a space which still had fairly easy access to the trolleys, albeit by needing to walk on the road and inbetween the other cars, multiple people had parked in the spaces with the easiest access with much older children. I was lucky to get a space at all, had I not I would have had to walk across the busy carpark holding my baby.

YANBU- Just because someone has a child under 16 doesn’t mean they should take up these spaces, they should save them for people who need them the most.

YABU- first come first served, who cares if someone with a baby is having to traipse across a busy car park holding a baby to get to the baby trolleys.

Parent and child spaces should be for those with children 5 and under
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Notmyuser · 03/04/2024 19:34

AboutYouTalk · 03/04/2024 18:52

Disagree with under 5’s but agree with under 12’s which is what the signs say at our local supermarket.

Ours say under 12 and travelling in a child car seat, which I think is fair.

berksandbeyond · 03/04/2024 19:34

SpindarellaRockafella · 03/04/2024 19:28

I have a 6 year old. No SEN. I don’t use those bays any longer. We are fine in a “standard” bay. I think of myself with a little breastfeeding baby and how much I needed one of those bays to wrangle with baby car seats etc.

id like to think others have similar POV but whatever, they’ll be piss takers with their 14 year olds I’m sure. I’m too busy to be enraged and just hope parents with little ones get a parent and child spot when they need one.

How did breastfeeding mean you needed the space, out of interest? Or do you just love any reason to add that bit? 😂

Italianita · 03/04/2024 19:34

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chuffoff · 03/04/2024 19:33

I've never needed a parent and child space more than when I was heavily pregnant cars had parked right up against the edge of the bays next to mine. I couldn't squeeze me and my bump into the very small gap of my open door and ended up having to go through the boot looking like an undignified elephant. Even that was touch and go.
If a child is able to get in and out of the car themselves and safely do their seatbelt without the help of an adult leaning in then there is no justification for taking up the space just because they happen to be a child.

SabreIsMyFave · 03/04/2024 19:33

Not aged 5 no, but 10 yes. Limit it to the age of 10. You will want it to be an older age @seize when yours are older. 5 is too small and young to expect people to stop using P & C spaces.

Busby88 · 03/04/2024 19:31

seize · 03/04/2024 16:53

All those talking about slings, does the sling enable you to get a baby in and out of a car seat when the door can only open slightly?

@seize Kids don’t stop using car seats when they turn 5 btw

SpindarellaRockafella · 03/04/2024 19:28

I have a 6 year old. No SEN. I don’t use those bays any longer. We are fine in a “standard” bay. I think of myself with a little breastfeeding baby and how much I needed one of those bays to wrangle with baby car seats etc.

id like to think others have similar POV but whatever, they’ll be piss takers with their 14 year olds I’m sure. I’m too busy to be enraged and just hope parents with little ones get a parent and child spot when they need one.

Busby88 · 03/04/2024 19:26

YABU. I often think people with newborns or young babies like yours don’t really need one. People with toddlers or multiple kids have a greater need. But you can’t prioritise like that and you can’t judge need based on just what you are seeing.

Meridean · 03/04/2024 19:25

I think as long as you need to get a child in and out of a car seat it’s reasonable to use a P&C space. When they can do it themselves and get out without smashing the door into the neighbouring car, then you don’t need a P&C space.

OhmygodDont · 03/04/2024 19:25

Kalevala · 03/04/2024 19:22

On children throwing doors open, I used to just say when the space was tight not to open the door, that I would open it. I would hold it so it didn't hit while my child got out. Later, i would warn him to be careful when we were close. Unless you have a child with a disability who can't follow directions like that, in which case the p&c spots are appropriate.

You do get well versed on your hand being the barrier don’t you 😂

Medschoolmum · 03/04/2024 19:24

Flopsy145 · 03/04/2024 19:14

As long as they have a child I'm happy, the people that park there with no children are the ones that piss me off

Even if they have disabilities, which may or may not be visible?

Kalevala · 03/04/2024 19:22

On children throwing doors open, I used to just say when the space was tight not to open the door, that I would open it. I would hold it so it didn't hit while my child got out. Later, i would warn him to be careful when we were close. Unless you have a child with a disability who can't follow directions like that, in which case the p&c spots are appropriate.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 03/04/2024 19:22

Crowgirl · 03/04/2024 19:21

This is genius

DITTO

notnowmarmaduke · 03/04/2024 19:22

go by bus. problem solved

CaptainCarrot · 03/04/2024 19:22

For me it's a moot point, as I currently live in a country that has no P&C parking places at all. Imagine that!

I think it's nice that some businesses provide them in the UK and elsewhere, but as others have said it's just a courtesy. P&C spaces are not in any way comparable to disabled spaces.

PuttingDownRoots · 03/04/2024 19:22

I think the OP would like the Meadowhall scheme... you have to register to use them

https://www.meadowhall.co.uk/news/parent-child-parking-permit

Crowgirl · 03/04/2024 19:21

Hoplittlebunnyhophophopandstop · 03/04/2024 16:49

Parent and child spaces are to allow enough space to fasten and unfasten a child car seat. They’re not to make to make it a shorter walk. I wish they would put them all at the far side of the car park to put off people who don’t need to use them.

This is genius

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 03/04/2024 19:21

Allfur · 03/04/2024 16:43

I agree, they should be for people who need them most

How the heck would you determine that?

Importantly, I've not seen age restrictions on these parking spaces,
The abusers of the child/parent spaces are often the same clowns that park in bays reserved for the disabled and have not BB/etc giving them the right to park there

Personally, I would not challenge any of the clowns as they are very loud-mouthed and full of hot air. However, I did see one challenge years ago and giving it the big, I am. What was really funny was that the challenger of the clown got serioluy offended when the word "twat" was used and challenged the clown/coward for a fight. Guess what? Yes, the clown got into their car with its OH and drove off like good, little cowards. However, I would never challenge these types.

vitahelp · 03/04/2024 19:20

Yeah I agree, I saw someone using one of those spaces with their ‘child’ who was taller than me and probably due to get a job soon.

There are a few people using them who don’t have any kid though and just don’t care.

Babyyygirl · 03/04/2024 19:18

Kalevala · 03/04/2024 18:58

How would this age limit be enforced? Considering that the spaces are a courtesy only, you don't know the age of a child, you can not tell at a glance whether a child has a disability, and not all children have a diagnosis by five?

I've been to supermarkets where the p&c spaces aren't the closest spaces to the entrance. They're near a pavement so you don't have to guide toddlers through a carpark. Lazy people are less likely to use them then as they're not the closest spaces to the store. Obviously parents of very young children (and disabled children who need assistance) need a bigger space to get their children in and out the car more easily.

KateM91 · 03/04/2024 19:18

My son is 7, we still use them as there’s space for him to open the door and not bash someone’s car. When he’s a bit older and more sensible we won’t need to so won’t. Definitely before he’s 13 🙈

SabihaN · 03/04/2024 19:17

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ParsonsPont · 03/04/2024 19:15

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 03/04/2024 18:40

Having a discussion is now 'obsessed'?
Perhaps if you were less obsessed with where others park....

Seeing as you keep responding to me but adding nothing meaningful, yes I would say that is indeed the case!

Kalevala · 03/04/2024 19:15

ManchesterLu · 03/04/2024 19:11

I agree - parent and child spaces are only needed if you have a child in a pushchair. That's what the extra space is for. If there is no pushchair, children will be able to get out of the car and walk to the shop. Some people park there out of laziness, as they cannot be bothered walking any further than necessary.

A child restrained in a pushchair is safer than one walking. A child walking has the greater need.

Flopsy145 · 03/04/2024 19:14

As long as they have a child I'm happy, the people that park there with no children are the ones that piss me off