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Wedding reception invite wording

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Itsaweddingoneagain · 03/04/2024 15:49

Hi all I’m getting married at the end of the year. Me and DP are ‘eloping’ to vegas just the two of us. I say ‘eloping’ as it isn’t a secret and we have told our families. After many tears, arguments and pushbacks from both sides of our family we’ve decided to host a wedding reception in the UK the month after we get back. Not something we really wanted to do but both of our Mothers have explicitly told us they will never speak to us again if we don’t do something over here. We knew they would be mad hence why we told them before we went and got married.

We are planning a reception of about 50 people. Again much bigger than we would like but I have 5 siblings, DP has 4. They all have partners and both of our parents are remarried. We tried to keep it small but numbers quickly added up. Anyway the reception will start at 6pm and we will arrive at around 6:15/6:20 to make the traditional entrance. We will have speeches (this was important to both sides of our family), food which will be a traditional hog roast style spread, first dance and then it will carry on into the night.

Due to the nature of it we need everyone to arrive at no later than 6. We are worried that no matter what we tell people they will hear wedding reception so will think any time from 6. If people arrive later than this it will just not flow how we need it to. I want to add a tag line at the bottom of the invite saying something along the lines of “Due to having speeches and a sit down meal planned we need all bums on seats at 6pm sharp. If you cannot commit to this time kindly please decline the invite”. My Mum has told me this is really rude. I’m worried about people strolling in at 730 in the middle of speeches!! I’ve been to wedding receptions where people have arrived hours after the initial start time- I’ve never been to a wedding reception that didn’t have an actual wedding before it and nobody we know has either.

Maybe I’m just working myself up because I can’t be arsed with the bloody thing anyway.

OP posts:
Nettie1964 · 05/04/2024 19:14

Why so uptight.if you didn't want a wedding party why are you worried sbout it not being perfect. Just go with the flow. It all sound very stressful to me.

CastleCrasher · 05/04/2024 18:10

If the mothers will be annoyed if people don't turn up in time due to the wording of the invitation, then get them to write the invitations, then they can't blame you? Given the way they've been id probably just delegate the whole thing to them. If they want a party/reception so badly, let them organise and pay for it!

Lifetooshort23 · 05/04/2024 17:59

As you’ve already told everyone, why don’t the demanding mothers just go out to Vegas with you, save you the bother of what you don’t want!
or just NC them all 🤷🏽‍♀️😆

No1toldmeaboutit · 05/04/2024 17:50

What’s the point in going to vegas?

Concannon88 · 05/04/2024 17:36

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 16:23

@JRM17 as a former wedding planner you honestly would have suggested that on the invites to a relatively small party of 50 Please note arrival during speeches will be prohibited.

...and possibly tasered

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 16:23

@JRM17 as a former wedding planner you honestly would have suggested that on the invites to a relatively small party of 50 Please note arrival during speeches will be prohibited.

Volpini · 05/04/2024 16:14

Dear OP
congratulations on your upcoming marriage. My commiserations on the hoops your respective families are having you jump through.
I have/ had a similarly challenging family dynamic to contend with when I got married. I tried so hard to accommodate everyone and the demands got worse and worse. The whole thing fell apart in ways too identifiable to spell out here and nothing we did was enough. Our family dynamics were ruined forever and our wedding was one of the most stressful things I’ve ever gone through.
I learned some valuable things about myself and who actually loved me. My husband and I got married and are still married, 18 years on.
My hard-earned advice? Do what you want because you cannot please unreasonable people and when you try to do so and it goes wrong anyway, you WILL regret having spent so much time, money and effort capitulating to people who would not have treated you like this and demanded if they loved you. You are trying to keep the peace with people who sooner or later are going to let you down badly. (And already are, actually.)
Your marriage, your decision how you celebrate it.
I wish you much happiness together.

JRM17 · 05/04/2024 14:28

As a former wedding planner i would advise you add a short timetable of events if you are that concerned about it. Dear GUEST. You are invited to THE LOCAL PUB to celebrate the regent marriage of JANE AND JON. Guest arrival 6pm / Bride and Groom arrival 6.30pm / Speeches 7pm / Food served 7.30pm / Carridges 11pm. Please note arrival during speeches will be prohibited. As this is not and actual wedding you are going to have to relax a bit tho as people are going to see it as a party.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 05/04/2024 10:06

Lakelandmumofthree · 05/04/2024 09:25

I meant the wedding. Obviously this masquerade isn't the same.

But surely this masquerade explains why they aren't invited to the actual wedding?

Lakelandmumofthree · 05/04/2024 09:25

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 05/04/2024 09:01

It's not going to be the happiest day of their lives though, is it?

It's going to be a day they have to grin and bear because their respective families have deliberately undermined their desire to get married quietly and without drama, and emotionally blackmailed them into going ahead with something they didn't want and which is about literally everyone except them (but which they are nonetheless part funding) under threat of being excommunicated from the family.

That's not love, or respect. That's narcissism and bullying.

It's absolutely crystal clear to me why the OP and her fiancé wanted to elope in the first place. Because their families are like this.

I only wish they would establish better boundaries now and say, "No, we're not going ahead with this. You have a party if you like. We won't be attending."

I meant the wedding. Obviously this masquerade isn't the same.

Crumblespiesetc · 05/04/2024 09:10

Just to say - enjoy your wedding in Vegas! Glad you got the wording advice you were looking for. Ignore the few who don't get it!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 05/04/2024 09:01

Lakelandmumofthree · 05/04/2024 08:48

I also think weddings are a family affair, the only reason your parents want to be involved is because they Love you! It's not selfish entitlement, they want to see you on the happiest day of your life. I think that's amazing and something some people would wish for, don't take their love for granted because one day they won't be here for you to share special moments with!

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It's not going to be the happiest day of their lives though, is it?

It's going to be a day they have to grin and bear because their respective families have deliberately undermined their desire to get married quietly and without drama, and emotionally blackmailed them into going ahead with something they didn't want and which is about literally everyone except them (but which they are nonetheless part funding) under threat of being excommunicated from the family.

That's not love, or respect. That's narcissism and bullying.

It's absolutely crystal clear to me why the OP and her fiancé wanted to elope in the first place. Because their families are like this.

I only wish they would establish better boundaries now and say, "No, we're not going ahead with this. You have a party if you like. We won't be attending."

Lakelandmumofthree · 05/04/2024 08:48

I also think weddings are a family affair, the only reason your parents want to be involved is because they Love you! It's not selfish entitlement, they want to see you on the happiest day of your life. I think that's amazing and something some people would wish for, don't take their love for granted because one day they won't be here for you to share special moments with!

ToffeePennie · 05/04/2024 08:45

”please come celebrate our Marriage
doors open at 5:30 for a 6pm start.
please indicate your preference of chicken or the vegan option below
thanks so much”

Lakelandmumofthree · 05/04/2024 08:40

For someone who isn't bothered about the wedding party you seem VERY bothered to me. I'd just chill out, say arrive by 6 and if they're late then they're late. You wouldn't want someone rushing and having an accident.

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 08:17

hot2trotter · 05/04/2024 07:18

You and your husband to be need to grow back bones sharpish. No way would I allow myself to be dictated to like that. Both families sound toxic and not something anyone would choose to be a part of.

no chance

i predict dozens of mumsnet threads once / if (hopefully not) the op has children and introduces the poor kids to this shit show of a family. On both does no less

Heronwatcher · 05/04/2024 07:48

Putting an itinerary is a good idea, but you should know that people WILL be late, whatever you write. You just have yo shrug your shoulders and deal with it. The only reason most people aren’t late for a wedding reception is that they are already there! Why do you care anyway?

Continue to call it a party, be open about the fact you’ll already be married. Stop talking to family about any more of the arrangements from now. Put up with what you can and get through the day.

If your family moan/ complain/ criticise just say you’re sorry they didn’t enjoy it, you were always not sure it was the best idea and move on. They’ll have forgotten about it once the next family issue comes along and if they haven’t then it’s their problem.

hot2trotter · 05/04/2024 07:18

You and your husband to be need to grow back bones sharpish. No way would I allow myself to be dictated to like that. Both families sound toxic and not something anyone would choose to be a part of.

Doone22 · 05/04/2024 06:50

Itsaweddingoneagain · 03/04/2024 15:49

Hi all I’m getting married at the end of the year. Me and DP are ‘eloping’ to vegas just the two of us. I say ‘eloping’ as it isn’t a secret and we have told our families. After many tears, arguments and pushbacks from both sides of our family we’ve decided to host a wedding reception in the UK the month after we get back. Not something we really wanted to do but both of our Mothers have explicitly told us they will never speak to us again if we don’t do something over here. We knew they would be mad hence why we told them before we went and got married.

We are planning a reception of about 50 people. Again much bigger than we would like but I have 5 siblings, DP has 4. They all have partners and both of our parents are remarried. We tried to keep it small but numbers quickly added up. Anyway the reception will start at 6pm and we will arrive at around 6:15/6:20 to make the traditional entrance. We will have speeches (this was important to both sides of our family), food which will be a traditional hog roast style spread, first dance and then it will carry on into the night.

Due to the nature of it we need everyone to arrive at no later than 6. We are worried that no matter what we tell people they will hear wedding reception so will think any time from 6. If people arrive later than this it will just not flow how we need it to. I want to add a tag line at the bottom of the invite saying something along the lines of “Due to having speeches and a sit down meal planned we need all bums on seats at 6pm sharp. If you cannot commit to this time kindly please decline the invite”. My Mum has told me this is really rude. I’m worried about people strolling in at 730 in the middle of speeches!! I’ve been to wedding receptions where people have arrived hours after the initial start time- I’ve never been to a wedding reception that didn’t have an actual wedding before it and nobody we know has either.

Maybe I’m just working myself up because I can’t be arsed with the bloody thing anyway.

Explicit on invite: 5.30 for 6pm. Everyone knows what that means. If they're late they won't get fed usually.

beanii · 05/04/2024 01:15

My husband and I eloped to Devon about 6 weeks ago - didn't tell anyone at all - came home, announced it on Facebook and that was it.

The most perfect wedding - about the 2 of us and the commitment we made to one another 🥰

OP I'd stand your ground and cancel the reception.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 05/04/2024 00:01

Your respective mothers sound terrifying. Perhaps they should issue the invites, agree the wording on how people should promptly arrive etc. 😉 Granted there’s a strong possibility you’ll turn up to find you’re having a church blessing and 200 have been invited but feck it, you’re having the wedding you want up to and including a cake, a first dance and no family in Vegas. How much do you care if the MILS run riot with their own chequebooks?

Or I would simply say “champagne/cocktail reception at 5, dinner served promptly at 6. Cash bar. Carriages at x” That will prompt some focus…

Noseybookworm · 04/04/2024 23:01

I'm astonished that you have allowed yourselves to be railroaded into having a reception that you don't want 😳 frankly, I'd be telling both mothers that if they choose to never speak to you again over your choice of wedding, that's up to them! As to people arriving late, I wouldn't worry too much. Most people will arrive on time and will be there for your big entrance! If there's a few latecomers, I wouldn't stress about.

TheNoodlesIncident · 04/04/2024 11:22

juicelooseabootthishoose · 03/04/2024 20:51

I just want to say that i am so sorry you are being forced into something you don't want to keep the peace.

Myself and DP also want to elope and my mum would also be similarly manipulative to get the wedding SHE wants me to have not the wedding WE want to have.

So we just aren't getting married anytime soon as we can't be bothered with it all. As adults and at this point of life id really hoped to be done with all this rubbish.

Why don't you arrange the wedding you DO want, and not tell anyone if that spares you fallout? You're adults, you can elope if you like. Just saying "Well I won't get married at all then" is just daft, sorry. You can do it and not tell her. Why wouldn't you?

FWIW my MIL criticised the wedding DH and I wanted, she even rang my mum to complain that we weren't planning it how she expected. My mum pointed out that they'd [both mums] had their weddings how they wanted and now it was our turn to arrange ours as we wanted. MIL stopped threatening to not go and instead bought an outfit and hat.

(Same for OP really, just do what you want, you'll regret it forever if you don't. If I had families like OP's and her DP's, I'd invite OP's dad and a dependable person from DP's side as witnesses and just bog off to Gretna Green or the like. Sod them!)

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/04/2024 11:11

Kaftanesque · 04/04/2024 07:51

Who are these mothers that are giving am ultimatum like this?None of our DCs are married, all in long term relationships but in no way would I ever say I wouldn't speak to them if they dint have a wedding or party.Their marriage.Their choice.And frankly reading some of the crazy wedding threads on MN I'm often relieved not to be involved in any way with wedding plans.

I would want to be at my own child's wedding because I love them and would want to be there for their big life milestones. It would make me feel sad if they chose to do that without me present.

But assuming that it was because they had chosen to get married without anybody present, rather than that they had had a wedding with guests but simply chosen not to invite me for some reason, I cannot imagine being willing to cut my own nose off to spite my face by stopping contact with my own child. If you love your child and treasure your relationship with them, why would you cut contact with them, or deliberately hurt them by threatening to cut contact with them? It just does not compute for me at all.

In addition to all this, the OP and her fiancé have nine siblings between them, most of whom appear happy to act as their parents' flying monkeys in this affair. So it's not even as if, by eloping, the OP and her fiancé are depriving their poor mothers of their one and only opportunity to don an enormous hat and strut about in front of their friends and family. Because there will be other weddings.

Nanny0gg · 04/04/2024 10:52

Itsaweddingoneagain · 03/04/2024 20:44

We have pushed back on a lot of things such as bridesmaids dresses for siblings (why?! There’s no bridesmaids!!) I know both of our mothers have purchased OTT outfits and hats though.

We have recently moved three hours away to a different country. Still in the UK but a different country to escape the family drama. I am English but my family are Irish and I had a traditional Irish catholic upbringing and the lack of church has been an extreme topic of controversy.

I have decided on the wording of the invites, thank you for all it the help. It is a complex situation with lots of background info I can’t really go into.

I’m excited to marry my DP and it just be the two of us. After we get back we are all going to one of our friends houses for a takeaway. That’s all we want and need. We will grin and bear the rest.

Well god help you when you have children.

If you're old enough to get married you're old enough to ignore this nonsense.

And if they're prepared to cut you off over it, they'll come crawling back for the DGC.
Or they're not worth it anyway

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