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Man complained about me re yoghurt brand stopped doing a flavour

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Auburngal · 03/04/2024 12:05

I was at work. Man (early 80s) asked me why we stopped doing a certain flavour yoghurt and the other two supermarkets stopped selling too.

Had my work’s handset on me and went onto the brand’s website and there wasn’t the flavour listed. Brand have dropped the flavour. On hearing the news - he flipped

He then went to the CSD asking for a manager. Manager said the same thing as me.

Do people realise that behaving like this is making staff leave retail?

OP posts:
Thinkonmadam · 05/04/2024 14:35

Think one of my favourites was working for one of the posh supermarkets and having a man shout in my face about how useless I was (because I wasn’t trained/qualified to serve him on the deli counter) and a passing manager intervening by taking shouty customer FOR A FREE COFFEE IN THE CAFE!!

Nothing like feeling supported by management 😳🙄

PrincessofWells · 05/04/2024 14:28

AInightingale · 05/04/2024 13:46

I had this when I worked in a supermarket, though it was mostly from women. I remember being asked where the 3 litre containers of milk had gone, and I said that we had plenty of 2 litre bottles. Oh no, they bought 3 litres every Saturday morning, it was 11p cheaper. Could I stop what I was doing and go and check the storeroom? We didn't have any, I had to return and break the news, they weren't pleased. Sometimes I couldn't believe the hassle some customers were prepared to put staff through. Yes, for something important like a certain kind of baby formula or medicine, but to save fucking 11p on a container of milk? Lunatics.

And your attitude is everything that's wrong with retail . . ..

'Of course I'll check for you'.
'I'm really sorry we appear to have sold out'. Is there anything else I can help you with?'

SapphireSeptember · 05/04/2024 14:17

Iop · 03/04/2024 12:50

I trust you didnt work in retail for very long, or else it was a long time ago before everyone turned into entitled twats. I work in a public-facing role (not retail) and have been -amongst other things - shouted at, sworn at, called useless, threatened with being followed home, had a glass of water thrown in my face, and been kicked in the stomach when 7 months pregnant. These were all in response to things I had literally no control over, and some of them on the same sort of scale as not having the yogurt flavour the person wanted (i.e. trivial). All I've ever done is empathise with the person's frustration and apologise (again, for things that are totally not my fault). The only exception was being kicked in the stomach, when I said "I'm sorry, I'm not going to let you do that. You will have to find another member of staff to help you." Poor mental health is not an excuse to treat people like shit. And taking a public-facing role does not mean you forfeit your rights to basic decency and respect.

The fuck is wrong with people? How anyone thinks kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach is acceptable is beyond me! Did anything happen to this special specimen or did they get away with it? 🤬

SapphireSeptember · 05/04/2024 14:14

GingerPirate · 03/04/2024 14:45

All right then.
Leave retail.

If we all did that, then what?

SapphireSeptember · 05/04/2024 14:13

I've actually had enough of people excusing bad behaviour. I had some woman rant at me during COVID, saying that I didn't know what people were going through. This was round about the time I was suffering a nasty bout of depression. Then a few years previously I had guy yelling at me over some scrambled eggs and telling me her had Asperger's, I'm autistic and I've managed to not shout at people in shops.
Meanwhile I was in Tesco last year, using the self service till, and every other item was not being registered when I put it in the bagging area. It was a whole trolley and took forever, and I was getting really flustered/frustrated/annoyed as the shop was closing and I wanted to get out of there. But, I wasn't rude to the staff. It wasn't their fault the stupid machine was being shit.
I work in a different area of retail now, supermarkets are a hellscape. We've also just implemented a zero tolerance policy for abusive costumers. Good.
I also didn't swear at the nurse who took a blood sample earlier, even though it really hurt. 😅 My veins were not being cooperative!

HectorPlasm · 05/04/2024 14:12

Are we EVER going to get the flavour of this yoghurt?! I've a good mind to complain ...

DoreenonTill8 · 05/04/2024 14:10

Eustaciavile · 05/04/2024 12:30

Come on OP, I think you will get over it.

Clearly the chap in question had some degree of cognitive impairment if not actual dementia which is much harder to cope with than being unreasonably shouted at by a customer.

There is a huge difference between entitled, unreasonable behaviour from fully functioning adults which is NEVER OK, and that exhibited by vulnerable people for example those with dementia or learning disabilities etc.

The latter I’m afraid is a part of your job as a customer facing worker that you will have to deal with. You need to take responsibility for ensuring you have the skills to deal with people who suffer additional challenges if you want to be a member of a truly inclusive society.

Perhaps you could request some training, for example your employer should offer a course on Dementia awareness.

No it shouldn't. Especially The latter I’m afraid is a part of your job as a customer facing worker that you will have to deal with. You need to take responsibility for ensuring you have the skills to deal with people who suffer additional challenges if you want to be a member of a truly inclusive society.
It's the responsibility of the store to remove/ban people who are abusive to staff, am fed up with the 'meh, you need to accept being abused/assaulted because....'

peloton2024 · 05/04/2024 14:00

Eustaciavile · 05/04/2024 12:30

Come on OP, I think you will get over it.

Clearly the chap in question had some degree of cognitive impairment if not actual dementia which is much harder to cope with than being unreasonably shouted at by a customer.

There is a huge difference between entitled, unreasonable behaviour from fully functioning adults which is NEVER OK, and that exhibited by vulnerable people for example those with dementia or learning disabilities etc.

The latter I’m afraid is a part of your job as a customer facing worker that you will have to deal with. You need to take responsibility for ensuring you have the skills to deal with people who suffer additional challenges if you want to be a member of a truly inclusive society.

Perhaps you could request some training, for example your employer should offer a course on Dementia awareness.

How do you know they have dementia?
I'm regularly shouted at by people over 70 and not all of them have dementia
A colleague was head butted by a 65yo who had no cognitive impairment whatsoever

AInightingale · 05/04/2024 13:46

I had this when I worked in a supermarket, though it was mostly from women. I remember being asked where the 3 litre containers of milk had gone, and I said that we had plenty of 2 litre bottles. Oh no, they bought 3 litres every Saturday morning, it was 11p cheaper. Could I stop what I was doing and go and check the storeroom? We didn't have any, I had to return and break the news, they weren't pleased. Sometimes I couldn't believe the hassle some customers were prepared to put staff through. Yes, for something important like a certain kind of baby formula or medicine, but to save fucking 11p on a container of milk? Lunatics.

Oldermum84 · 05/04/2024 13:45

I worked in retail for years. To be honest I would have found this funny, rather than abusive.

pinkyredrose · 05/04/2024 13:32

Dinoswearunderpants · 03/04/2024 16:20

I'm sorry but most people in retail don't have many other job prospects so doubtful they'll leave the industry.

However, I agree it's unnecessary to behave that way.

That you Hyacinth?

horseyhorsey17 · 05/04/2024 13:06

Lordofmyflies · 05/04/2024 12:58

People can be awful but they are the minority. I guess the question is whether he had the mental capacity to realise his behaviour or whether he had diminished cognitive ability?
As a former NHS worker I was scratched, bitten, hit, spat at and had more swear words directed at me than hot dinners but fortunately, the majority of the incidents where by elderly with dementia / pain and no concept of what they were doing. There are ways to deal with that behaviour which should be taught to you by management. The other minority of abusive people are just assholes which you require protection from by management. V different coping strategies.

To a degree you expect violence from people who are scared and in pain though. I am not saying it's an excuse but it's quite an instinctive way to behave.

The way the general public treats people working in hospitality or retail beggars belief though. When I worked in hospitality, I regularly had (male) customers asking me my bra size - or trying to guess it - and generally being massively inappropriate. Some of the comments I got were eye-watering. You need a thick skin - well, what you ideally need is a customer base who knows how to behave. This (and the crap money) is exactly why nobody actually wants to work in retail or hospitality. It won't change until the industries start properly investing in their staff.

Lordofmyflies · 05/04/2024 12:58

People can be awful but they are the minority. I guess the question is whether he had the mental capacity to realise his behaviour or whether he had diminished cognitive ability?
As a former NHS worker I was scratched, bitten, hit, spat at and had more swear words directed at me than hot dinners but fortunately, the majority of the incidents where by elderly with dementia / pain and no concept of what they were doing. There are ways to deal with that behaviour which should be taught to you by management. The other minority of abusive people are just assholes which you require protection from by management. V different coping strategies.

FleurdeSel · 05/04/2024 12:43

People that have worked in retail or the service retail understand. There are a minority of people that are uncouth arseholes.

I am so glad to have my days working with the public far behind me. YANBU.

ECGG · 05/04/2024 12:32

Do you not think the way retail staff are treated is related to the service received?This is a bit of a bizarre example and likely the other side would tell it different. But most retail staff I come across are completely unhelpful, often rude and almost always uninterested. Then there's the entitlement, we should put up with this to 'save the high st'. No thanks, I get better service and vfm online!

MrsSlocombesCat · 05/04/2024 12:31

Did he blame immigration? 😁

Eustaciavile · 05/04/2024 12:30

Come on OP, I think you will get over it.

Clearly the chap in question had some degree of cognitive impairment if not actual dementia which is much harder to cope with than being unreasonably shouted at by a customer.

There is a huge difference between entitled, unreasonable behaviour from fully functioning adults which is NEVER OK, and that exhibited by vulnerable people for example those with dementia or learning disabilities etc.

The latter I’m afraid is a part of your job as a customer facing worker that you will have to deal with. You need to take responsibility for ensuring you have the skills to deal with people who suffer additional challenges if you want to be a member of a truly inclusive society.

Perhaps you could request some training, for example your employer should offer a course on Dementia awareness.

Mnk711 · 05/04/2024 12:22

It isn't just retail is it, it's any job you have to interact with members of the public as lots of people are just awful. I have friends across lots of front line roles (retail, council housing team, hospital medicine etc) who have had horrendous behaviour from customers/patients/service users including violence. It isn't even just manners is it, it's as basic as don't be a complete dick.

On the more mild end of the scale I saw an elderly man in a cafe arguing about why they charged more for decaf than caffeinated tea. The lady explained that the teabags cost them more. Simple explanation, job done you'd think. Except the man then proceeded to go on and on about other cafes not doing the same, and decaf removing caffeine and therefore it is less good as it is missing an ingredient (?). The lady was reasonable and polite but he just went on and on until she managed to excuse herself. I wouldn't have been able to be so polite.

Craycraycatbaby · 05/04/2024 12:22

The general public are bellends. I work for a social housing company and oh my god, all I can say is thank god the money is good otherwise we'd all have quit.

Hadjab · 05/04/2024 12:22

Friend2023 · 03/04/2024 12:37

I work in retail and I honestly don't believe this is fair. Why should we have to put up with people talking like they've scraped us from the bottom of their shoe.
And they do ....

We are only human too !!! And maybe retail staff have mental health issues aswell , why do these peoples MH trump a retail workers MH ?

If someone speaks to me like shit , then I speak to them with the same respect.
I'm sick of pandering to the public who still have the opinion that the customer is always right , coz trust me ... they really aren't!! Some of the batshit crazy we have to deal with is not worth minimum wage !!!

I've been saying for decades that we need to bring back National Service in the form of making everyone work in retail for two years. Maybe if rude customers experience it first hand, they might think twice before they go off on one at retail staff

GG1986 · 05/04/2024 12:19

I would have googled the brands number, wrote it down for him and told him to direct his complaints to them. End of, goodbye.

Auburngal · 05/04/2024 12:15

Sweepies · 05/04/2024 11:13

My retail nightmare story...at the height of covid I worked in a small village shop. As the only shop in the village we were allowed to stay open but with very strict mask and social distancing rules. We had a lot of problem enforcing masks, but my boss was very strict because in my area they were actively inspecting and issuing fines to businesses at the time.

My boss put a sign on the door that basically read "It's your human right not to wear a mask BUT it's our right not to let you in the shop blah blah blah" very sarcastic thing but the message was clear; wear a mask.

Que a man screaming at me telling me it's outrageous our sign says he doesn't have to wear his mask in the shop as covid is rife and people are dying etc., I tried to explain politely as I could the sign wasn't saying that - it was saying the reverse and then it turned into "are you calling me stupid?!"

A couple of other people witnessed this and gave me sympathetic looks and made remarks after he left but no one actually stepped in to help me.

Anyway I took the bloody sign down.

Don't start me on that! People 'claimed' that they were 'exempt' from wearing masks. Yes they are the large group of deniers. They were the ones that sprayed Hoax on the council and govt signs dotted along the streets with essential retail. Some said they had asthma, which is a bloody insult to myself and another (now retired) colleague who are asthmatic. I was so tempted to ask them questions which only asthmatics knew. We couldn't question these deniers and 90% reeked of weed.

My medication at the time meant I didn't need to shield but having covid twice, I am on stronger and additional meds since then and carry a steroids card.

OP posts:
Alondra · 05/04/2024 12:13

HeadNorth · 05/04/2024 12:06

I am sure the OP can understand why he is upset, but that does not give him the right to be abusive to staff. Can you understand that?

I can. But the OP never said, despite the question being asked, how the 80 year old flipped. He may not have been abusive at all and be just simply upset.

Hankunamatata · 05/04/2024 12:09

I wonder if it's to do with the percentage of people getting shopping delivered or click and collect. Where want such a big thing a few years back so you had more of a variety of customers where now a percentage have gone online

HeadNorth · 05/04/2024 12:06

Alondra · 05/04/2024 12:00

I'm sure you deal with awful customers everyday but if you can't understand why an 80+ year old is upset because his favourite flavour yoghurt has disappeared from the shelves, you shouldn't be in retail at all.

I am sure the OP can understand why he is upset, but that does not give him the right to be abusive to staff. Can you understand that?

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