To Love Beyoncé's New Album?

Haven’t rtft…. Is anyone noticing that yaya sounds sooo like why don’t you love me? From I am… Sasha fierce

Not sure what a PP means by 'a certain type of people'.

For my 2p worth, I do admire Beyonce's talent and work ethic and like some of her output but I do think the hype is out of proportion to the quality. Some absolutely cracking work but plenty of warbly ballads and I think it appeared overconfident to play both Etta James and Diana Ross (well, a fictionalised version) on film. Fantastic though her voice is, she wasn't able to summon the grit to do Etta justice.

I think there's a bit of a back and forth of being marketed as a peerless star (since before it was really earnt), some fans responding with the kind of idolatry not seen in recent years, and I think other folk being wound up by the air of being very, very special and a bit humourless (e.g. pregnancy announcements, Kanye West's stage invasion- that wasn't her fault of course but I think she knew him well) that leads to a tennis game of building her up and knocking her down online. I hope she and her kids don't read it (I don't know whether they're all of reading ages).

The points about 'she can keep her man' are in riposte to her own lyrics both on Jolene and Lemonade.

I don't like it, to be honest. Only heard 2-3 tracks but not at all as good as her usual.

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Why would. Anyone but a good digger want her man. He cheats more than a tom cat 😂

I think in her early days with dc they had very very good producers & the records wer pretty much all huge winners! Last year or was it 2022 she had a truly awful single out that was simply irritating.....what she represents now is a mystery to me......there are lots of great new songs & artists out there today - her productions are poor compared to many!

Maybe you could expand on what those "particular type of people" are.

But to say people who aren’t fans of Beyoncé’s music are hateful and jealous is perhaps the most pathetic, hilarious, sycophantic nonsense I’ve read in a very long time, so thanks for the laugh 🤣

@YaMuvva I know! It's absolutely hilarious because this isn't what I said at all!! When the point has flown so far over your head as to be in an entirely different universe!

Apparently it makes you jealous of her if you aren’t into her music 😂😂

Maybe it shows the complexity of staying in a messy marriage and making a fool of oneself by externalising blame but I think a lot of listeners will just end up asking 'is bloody Jay Z worth all this bellyaching on album after album?'

Totally agree. I’m amazed anyone would want to have an affair with him he’s neither attractive nor particularly interesting and seems to have made a career out of whining

Not a fan of her in any way. Utterly overrated. But I’m not sure what that tells anyone about me apart from the fact that I don’t like her, lest some MNers try to imply anything else 🙄

I haven't listened in full yet but am quite interested. Not blown away so far. Voice powerful as ever, some decent country pop. Happy to see Shaboozey on there.

I think the Jolene cover is a miss. I'm all for a new interpretation but it seems to really miss the point of the original with the brittle posturing. Plus 'i raised his kids and I raised him'. How infantilising.

Just a poor choice of song. If she'd wanted to go down the 'fight for my man' route, something fiery by Loretta Lynn would have been a much better basis rather than interpret Dolly's gentleness as patheticness.

Maybe it shows the complexity of staying in a messy marriage and making a fool of oneself by externalising blame but I think a lot of listeners will just end up asking 'is bloody Jay Z worth all this bellyaching on album after album?'

I don’t hate Beyoncé or her music. Hate requires passion and deep feeling, it’s very close to love, and I don’t have those kind feelings for many people let alone a celebrity I don’t know.

But her music isn’t my type - so shoot me.

But to say people who aren’t fans of Beyoncé’s music are hateful and jealous is perhaps the most pathetic, hilarious, sycophantic nonsense I’ve read in a very long time, so thanks for the laugh 🤣

I sometimes imagine these overly passionate statements about celebrities are said with a wobbly bottom lip and wonder if the sycophants know that Beyonce isn’t gonna read it and she’s never gonna be your mate.

BTW the ‘she can keep her man’ comment is in DIRECT REPLY to HER (rather provocative) lyrics on Jolene. She has changed them to “you can’t keep my man” or some nonsense. Not a random dig at the woman. HTH.

@YaMuvva She's generally disliked by particular type of people in an almost hateful way. It's not enough to just not consider her music 'your type of music' and move on - for them her status, music, stardom is something up for ridicule, bemusement and debasement. It's less that someone doesn't like her music, it's more about how they express that sentiment. Even the comment on 'she can keep her man.' It's to me rather gross, but not something particularly surprising.

Also Jolene is a bit cringe- nobody wants your man Beyoncé. Apart from maybe the police

The album is fairly good. I strongly dislike her cover of Jolene.Mileys was much better
Lemonade was a much better album imo

I'm worried I'm racist because it feels like with this album it's the first time I've properly heard her voice - really heard the notes and the power and the depth. It's all seemed like surface noise before combined with shaking booty distraction. I need to find time to sit and listen to the whole album. I've found myself pondering over the new lyrics and whether they're modern or different. Do the old lyrics resonate to anyone anymore?
It's really interesting to be pulled in like this.

Probably wasn't intended but I literally snorted laughing and almost woke my baby up at your 'hoofing in the chest' comment 😂

Her husband or cronies will jump on stage and have a public tantrum about it like it’s a completely reasonable or normal thing to do

I am more interested in the fall out when and if she doesn't get the country music award that she and some of her sycophants believe that she should get.

I'm not a Beyonce fan but an a country music fan. I don't know if I've listened to the whole album yet but so far the standout ones I can remember are liking Blackbird and Cowboy Carter. Not a fan of American Requiem.

Jolene is fine musically but as others have said the lyrics warning another woman off her man are just a bit cringe. Especially when that man is Jay Z.

I feel like if she wanted to change the lyrics there are other ways she could have gone with it. Like telling Jolene she was welcome to the cheat. Or Diane by Cam is fun. That's inspired by Jolene and is basically the other woman telling her side of the story.

My radio gets as far as “this anit T” and it’s turned off and Jolene is just a joke.

Miley did Jolene well though. I like a bit of all music I’ll jump from Eminem to Morgan wallen with linked park lined up but I just cannot get behind those songs.

Of course there are those that like her - I love mn where interesting opinions are shared! I guess as a performer she is goodish but the records now are over hyped!

I think Beyonce is a fabulous performer and have always rated her highly. Her concerts are incredible!

The new country album, though. Nah. Texas Hold ‘em was dreadful and like an AI bot had been asked to write a tacky country song. Jolene is a joke of a cover, and Jay Z has cheated repeatedly, so this whole ‘you won’t get him, he loves me too much’ is just embarrassing.

The rest is higher quality, I found the cover of Blackbird lovely. I found a love for country music on a US road trip, and it can be very soulful and well developed… Texas did not hit any kind of spot, apart from being catchy, but the other less played songs (so far) on the album have much more depth.

Hyped Up & has had her day! Terrible records now! Clown of a husband does her production no favours at all......& as for Jolene, surely no one can say that it's a good cover! Come on......