Am I About to loose my driving licence for speeding offences

This wasn't a (very unkind) April Fools joke by any chance (given that it was bank holiday monday)? Fingers crossed

There's still an officer setting enforcement policy across the force.

Very few people get caught by officers with equipment nowadays. Its mainly unmanned cameras by the side of the road.

It's also irrelevant for this OP, as 24mph is still above that leeway

It's not a myth as such, it's ACPO guidance. An officer can overrule this with their discretion. That said, if someone was 1mph over the limit I'd be questioning whether the calibration of the equipment is precise enough to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they were exceeding the speed limit.

The default speed limits are 30mph (20 in Wales) if there are streetlights at 200yd intervals (or less), or NSL otherwise. Any other speed limits need repeater signs to remind drivers that the default doesn't apply.

This is at the police force's discretion
Many people think it is some kind of law. It is not. it is only a guidance

Speeding is so emotive it's never worth getting into a debate about. What is worth talking about is how its possible to not know if you have penalty points on your licence. Absolutely staggering to me, not least because you are required to declare any points whenever the insurance is renewed. With six points and more I can't believe that the insurance costs haven't gone through the roof. And yes, you do (or at least did when I had to do it) have to send your licence back. How do you not know?

Not wishing to be unkind, but a ban would seem to be the best solution in your circumstances. Fines, speed-awareness course, and presumably an increase in insurance because of the points on your license have done nothing to prevent you exceeding the speed limits.

The only other way to make you modify your behaviour would be an accident when you injure another road user.

Seriously if you cannot drive within the speed limit to this extreme extent on so many occasions you should not be on the road.

I have little sympathy, but you can opt to go to court, and a magistrate can look into circumstances, and three, as it was installed and disabled and only just over the speed limit, may get you off with a big fine. I know a magistrate that left people on 11 points quite a lot, you may get lucky, but I think the potential fine is higher. I suspect you'd only lose the license for a couple of months.

This is exactly what happened with me.

I did a speed awareness course myself about a year ago (I was caught by a camera doing 24 on a 20 limit, bang to rights, it was a long empty stretch of road and my speed crept up without my realising).

But one thing I remember specifically from the course was being taught never to assume you know the limit just because it’s a familiar road!

Lots of people were caught on our road when they reduced the limit from 40 to 30mph. Because it was already sandwiched between two 30mph sections they just took the 40 signs down and didn't put anything new up. It's much harder to spot the absence of signs than new ones going up.

i didn’t even realise until the letters came through since it was all so close together

Oh come on! Its easy to make a mistake if the speed limit on a familiar road suddenly changes. Loads of people were caught out like this near us. Council must have made a fortune!

Thanks for that. No it wasn’t and I’m generally a careful driver but as I say the limit changed without notice and I was caught three times within a week on the same bit of road.

That speed awareness course must have been shit!

I think you can go to a magistrates court and plead your case - I remember something like that when I got a speeding ticket. As your original offences were very close together. presumably you had committed all offences before any letters came through? If there was a recent change to 20mph you may not have realised you were speeding and they may take that into account, or they may take into account that you had not had a chance to be informed of and rectify your behaviour before you got any letters.

And your speeds are very close to the speed limit, - so they may take that into account.

As PP said, you do need to get some technology or something you help you stay under the limit. Even if you get let off, you still have three years (or is it 5?) with no offences to avoid losing your licence.

Similar happened to me last summer. I have been driving for over 30 years with only one speeding offence 2 years ago where I did a speed awareness course.

I then got caught by a change in the speed limit in my own village. I hadn’t realised a particular stretch going out of the village had changed from a 40 to a 30. It didn’t have new 30 signs up just a small sign saying that the speed limit had changed and I didn’t notice it. No excuse for that.

I was caught by a van doing 35 three times in the space of a week. I knew the bloody thing was there too but thought I was ok because I was doing 35 in a 40 zone.

DH thinks it’s hilarious since I am routinely teased for being a very cautious driver. He might change his tune if I get caught again in the next three years and get a ban..

but yes it is automatic ban at 12 points unless there are mitigating circumstances

Hi OP. It doesn’t say to send your licence because at this stage the police just want to know who was driving. If this fine takes you over 12 points the case will go to court as a totter ie a driver who has totted up lots of points

OP, you need to speak with Andrew Thompson http://www.counsel.direct/ he’s an expert in this field. Give him all the facts and let him advise you, he will have seen this before. If there’s any chance of keeping your license, he’s it. He’s got a fantastic track record.

OP, I would wait and see. I know it's not comfortable and, if you are in Wales, they are cracking down on 20mph at the moment. NIP letters must be received within 14 days of the alleged offence.

Try not to panic. Easy to say, difficult to do, but it doesn't help.

This is an urban myth.

On my speed awareness course there was woman one mile over the speed limit.

Oooh you had 'likes'. How lovely for you. Must have made your sad little day so bright. You were silly enough to post, others know better and don't.

I didn't report you but I would have; every little SPaG jibe I see.

You only get points if you are over the limit, you have been over the limit on four occasions in the last year therefore you deserve to loose your license. You know the speed limit, it applies to you so stick to it.