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Would you fall for a romance scam artist?

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Mojitowithelfreako · 31/03/2024 22:18

They just seem so ridiculous (the men).
The Tinder Swindler, Dirty John, Bad Surgeon, the guy from Bad Vegan... why do they succeed?
I feel like I would see through it, especially when they bring up the 'CIA' stuff. These women don't seem stupid. Do they never sit back and think 'that doesn't add up' or speak to their friends who say 'that's bullshit'. I just don't get it.
Maybe they are super charming but I think they go too far with their lies. As soon as anyone said 'it's top secret' then I would immediately think what a dick head.
Do you think they try several women before they succeed or can they tell which women want to believe, or are vulnerable?
Or could any of us get drawn in?

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Lighteningstrikes · 01/04/2024 01:23

No. I’m far too careful and don’t trust people.

YoureALizardHarry11 · 01/04/2024 01:22

See, they always say on these shows like the one on BBC with Kym Marsh that these scammers are very, very convincing and clever, but every single time I watch it I’m thinking, ‘’Yeah, it wasn’t remotely clever, it was obvious’’ I don’t get it either. They are literally so obvious to me, all the time. Think they might just be trying to placate the victim. I would never say never though, what with AI becoming more sophisticated. I really don’t think I’d fall for one at the moment, though, and I’d never send money to someone I hadn’t met so they would have to meet me and work really hard to gain my trust so who knows if it would be worth the fassle 🤣

ThinWomansBrain · 01/04/2024 01:06

YABU for the phrase "romance scam artist" - Fraudster would suffice

Catsmere · 01/04/2024 01:05

No, because I'm not interested in a relationship and never have been. I immediately mistrust any man who's more than commonly friendly and I loathe flirts. I don't have any property or assets that would attract a scammer, or a cocklodger for that matter.

Minimili · 01/04/2024 01:03

My friend got scammed badly, he was in his 40’s and had just got divorced had started internet dating and had no real online experience. His wife left him for a much younger man and refused him having contact with his step kids he’d raised from babies, he felt he’d lost everything.

He had no real attention off women his own age - or even a few years older or younger, but then suddenly a beautiful woman with terrible spelling and bizarre use of language comes along and tells him he’s everything she ever dreamed of.

The worst thing wasn’t even so much the money he lost, it was the sheer amount of time. He was spending hours online, he owned his own business and started to neglect it and was just on his phone/laptop constantly.

I hacked into it to read the conversations (not literally but his password was STEVE1968) and they were just so sad with him pouring out his heart and replies of “I love you dear, we will be together dear because our hearts are the same and we in love and I dream of you every sekond” and poems lifted off the internet.

Luckily I did a reverse google image search and the woman he was talking to was a celebrity in another country! It wasn’t at all convincing if you knew what to look for.

He lost £8,000 and a lot of pride and had a dented ego. He would probably still fall for it if it happened again sadly because he’s lonely and vulnerable.

Cloudful · 01/04/2024 00:56

I work in fraud - sometimes it’s a genuine lack of mental capacity. Other times the scammer has found a vulnerable person out of a hundred they were talking to.
For someone who is lonely and crying out for affection, the scammer comes across as attentive, loving, genuine. They might not even ask for money, they’ll pose a problem for which they need money and of course the victim is only too happy to help their true love.
It’s hard for me to understand - if I were single I’d be more than happy to enjoy my own company and wouldn’t feel like I’d be unhappy forever unless I found someone. However there is a deep rooted need in some people to have a partner and without one they’re incomplete. This leaves them open and vulnerable to it unfortunately.

Apolloneuro · 01/04/2024 00:42

I think most people have the potential to be scammed by a really good, takes their time to build trust scammer.

Mojitowithelfreako · 31/03/2024 23:41

@DanielGault Easter GrinEaster GrinEaster Grin too true!

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DanielGault · 31/03/2024 23:35

Mojitowithelfreako · 31/03/2024 23:34

I suppose what I don't understand is the urge to be in a relationship. I'm watching 'twin flames' on Netflix now and I can't believe these young, hot twenty year olds are spending so much to find their true love. Why don't they just hang on? Why the rush?
Same with love is blind, you're children, just chill out, shag around a bit more.

That might be more an urge to get on Netflix tbh?

Mojitowithelfreako · 31/03/2024 23:34

I suppose what I don't understand is the urge to be in a relationship. I'm watching 'twin flames' on Netflix now and I can't believe these young, hot twenty year olds are spending so much to find their true love. Why don't they just hang on? Why the rush?
Same with love is blind, you're children, just chill out, shag around a bit more.

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AfterTheWatershed · 31/03/2024 23:33

I watched BBCs For Love or Money, long before Tinder Swindler etc was on. In these cases the scammers seek out vulnerabilities, the recently windowed seemed most at risk. Often the victims would keep sending money even when their families told them it was a scam and tried to stop them. It’s like anything, if it seems to good to be true, it will be.

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 23:28

I loved the fact that I got one when my profile pic is me in the wedding dress. Like seriously!

samarrange · 31/03/2024 23:28

Someone came into our neighbourhood Facebook group one evening and said "This guy is chatting with me, do you think it might be a scam?". She posted a couple of screenshots and it was obviously catfishing. After about 20 people had told her that yes, it's definitely a scam, she said "Oh dear, another one. I fell for the same thing about 6 months ago and only found out he was a scammer when I'd already sent him money". Unreal.

(If this post looks familiar, it is, as I already posted this a while back on another scammer-related thread. But it seems worth repeating.)

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 23:27

RaraRachael · 31/03/2024 23:25

Nope. I got a classic friend request yesterday - good looking US serviceman widower- aye right!

No doubt he had a sick child, gold waiting to go through customs or had had some kind of accident en route to the airport to meet me.

I can't understand the ones who go on for years sending thousands to these people without ever meeting them.

There's a lot of those chaps floating about. Perhaps they should start a support group?

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 31/03/2024 23:26

Northernsouloldies · 31/03/2024 23:18

Has he got a friend 😋🤔

He’s never mentioned one. Would you like me to ask? I know he’d only have good, reliable friends.

RaraRachael · 31/03/2024 23:25

Nope. I got a classic friend request yesterday - good looking US serviceman widower- aye right!

No doubt he had a sick child, gold waiting to go through customs or had had some kind of accident en route to the airport to meet me.

I can't understand the ones who go on for years sending thousands to these people without ever meeting them.

DrCoconut · 31/03/2024 23:20

I've had a few random friend requests on facebook recently. Obvious would be scammers.

Northernsouloldies · 31/03/2024 23:18

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 31/03/2024 22:31

It’s hard to credit isn’t it?

I was lucky, though. When Brad contacted me from Afghanistan I just knew he was for real. He’d seen my picture online and fallen in love! Combat surgeons in the US Marines don’t just randomly get in contact. And his spelling was only a bit off because he was typing under fire.

Before he was in the Marines he had a very successful practice in LA, operating on Hollywood stars. He’s just too classy to be a scammer: he only signed up because he’s a patriot.

He’s back in civvy street now but has some money problems. Something to do with helping Afghan orphans: they’re so expensive! The £25k I’ve sent him is going to two good causes - well three really, because I can add my future to the orphans’ and Brad’s.

He’s coming over soon. Just as soon as the CIA have finished debriefing him. It’s very thorough, apparently.

I’m so lucky. Which makes me all the sorrier for those who get suckered.

Has he got a friend 😋🤔

Mojitowithelfreako · 31/03/2024 23:17

@RicePuddingWithCinnamon Jesus Christ! Not the baby chicks on the pecs!

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RicePuddingWithCinnamon · 31/03/2024 23:10

No.
I don’t want some bloody annoying man messaging me, sending dictures or trying to romance me. Yuk.
I am skint anyway so I am low risk.
A friend of mine has been scammed by a handsome man, in his profile picture he is topless and holding baby chicks. She’s given him over 1k 🫤

Mojitowithelfreako · 31/03/2024 23:09

I think a scam can happen at any time. The way that a man can have a child with you and then disclose that he never intended to marry you or even buy a house with you.
The man who tells you that he can't commit until he's 'working on himself' (whilst sleeping with you)!and that he would be ready one day, until he immediately commits to someone else. The man who is in a long term relationship, says he doesn't want kids, and then splits and immediately has a family with someone else.
Aren't these romance scams too?

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OutOfTheHouse · 31/03/2024 23:08

I wouldn’t because were I to find myself single again I would stay that way.

It did happen to a friend though. Single mum with two kids, one with additional needs. She got into a relationship with this guy and they were together for about 6 months. He stayed over one night and when she woke up in the morning he had taken everything, kids games consoles, tv, laptops. She was on benefits at the time and working a very low paid part time job. I don’t think she got anything back.

Newsenmum · 31/03/2024 23:08

MyFirstLittlePony · 31/03/2024 23:04

If you are lonely and hurt and vulnerable and someone comes along telling you you are wonderful…. That can be hard to resist

easy to say it would never happen to you, if you are in a secure place in your life right now

And we know all the obvious ones now. If there was a new way we might get fooled.

DyslexicPoster · 31/03/2024 23:07

I think it's easier to be sacked in if your doing online dating. My friend was twice as she is not stupid at all. Luckily she didn't pay out when asked. I think the promise of a rich handsome business man offering a future was worth a punt. I was amazed how many months it took before going for the accident news.

Gently warning of scam fell on deaf ears so I didn't push it. Some people aren't naturally suspicious

Newsenmum · 31/03/2024 23:07

People on mumsnet tend to be more savvy (I mean we know how to post on a forum and add obviously aware of all these cons).

My aunt is honestly hopeless. She nearly got caught up in one on Facebook (she still gets wall posts and messages confused) until we stopped her and pointed out how he could view things on her profile to know what to say and how obviously fake his photos were. It also never really occurred to her. Oh and she was recently widowed. Probably the main thing!

They often target those they can work out are vulnerable and/or learning disabilities. Very sad.

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