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Botox, frozen faces and big lips

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Yourhappinessisourhapinessvom · 28/03/2024 22:34

Will this trend ever end, does anyone think?
I don’t judge anyone getting surgery etc, heaven knows I need help with my lines…but the same as everyone else look is pretty weird.
Have just seen some videos from the 80’s & 90’s and just the variation in the way actors etc looked is incredible, so natural and beautiful

Also hoping all this ends by the time my Dd is a teen. I was a teen in the 90’s, yes we wore make up and cared how we looked, but nothing like these days

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Nanny0gg · 29/03/2024 12:47

Mirabai · 29/03/2024 11:29

This isn’t about judging people on their looks. It’s a discussion about whether cosmetic treatments are effective in what they purport to do - improve appearance, make people look younger.

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And it's very much a subject for now

It is a very much an issue in regard to society, expectations, mental health and misogyny (because I don't believe for one second they all do it for 'themselves' because what exactly does that mean?)

HairyToity · 29/03/2024 12:47

Yanbu. I can't watch anything with Michelle Keegan in, as I find her so icky looking. Much prefer the natural look.

Nanny0gg · 29/03/2024 12:44

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 23:13

I am picking YABU because I agree with @EmilyTjP ... I am sick of this same thread coming up every week. Yes I think it's a shame these girls/women are doing this, (having fillers and botox and collagen and the like,) but I CBA to repeat myself over and over.

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Then don't?

We have no idea how long posters have been on MN or what posts they have previously read

And many MANY posts are repeats of former ones (with maybe a small variation)

They do say there's nothing new under the sun

MattDamon · 29/03/2024 12:43

Jl2014 · 29/03/2024 11:15

It’s the shiny, sweaty Botox forehead that really freaks me out

Some of us look like that naturally!

Noselikeabluetit · 29/03/2024 12:25

younger not longer!!! Haha

Noselikeabluetit · 29/03/2024 12:24

I can’t move my face on one side and a bit on the other because of a genetic disease, people think I’m a lot longer because obviously the side effect is not many wrinkles due to lack of movement but it’s not good because people think I’m rude, aloof because I can’t smile properly and I can’t make small nuanced expressions.

Cas112 · 29/03/2024 12:23

@KeinLiebeslied54321 it's not the disliking, if I dislike something that's just how i feel about it and I get on with life. I don't sit and dwell about it and write a whole thread to then sit and discuss with other people in a judgemental bitchy way

Mirabai · 29/03/2024 11:34

I don’t think discussion around women and cosmetic treatments should be shut down on the basis that - if you don’t like it or don’t think it generally improves appearance - you’re being unkind.

Women have to be able to discuss these things - pressure on appearance, pressure to alter appearance, the impact of meida and social media etc, affects all of us. Even if we choose against it ourselves, it’s something we have to discuss with our daughters.

Mirabai · 29/03/2024 11:29

Workhardcryharder · 29/03/2024 11:11

Judging people based on their looks is the definition of bitchy is it not? At least own it

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This isn’t about judging people on their looks. It’s a discussion about whether cosmetic treatments are effective in what they purport to do - improve appearance, make people look younger.

HebburnPokemon · 29/03/2024 11:29

Cornishpasty342 · 29/03/2024 01:24

I’ve got some filler in my lips and will definitely get Botox in the future. I get O.5ml every 2 or 3 years as I have no top lip and when I smile it vanishes completely. I look 100% better with the filler and feel so much happier and more confident. I have never had anything done to please other people and do it to make me happy.

Every 2 to 3 YEARS? Do you not mean months?

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 29/03/2024 11:22

Workhardcryharder · 29/03/2024 11:11

Judging people based on their looks is the definition of bitchy is it not? At least own it

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Not liking a look isn't judging though, it's simply having different tastes.
It would only be judgemental if I was assessing their personality, their ability to do their job, etc. I don't do that.
I don't like fake eyelashes, loads of make up, filler, botox, etc.
Someone else might not like my more naturally ageing look.
We are allowed to have different tastes.

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 11:18

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 10:43

Well it’s scary for everyone in my generation - I’m between millennial and gen z. We often discuss how afraid we are and what treatments/serums etc we are using to prevent aging! Maybe it is society now. Studies like the ones showing how men are only attracted to youth certainly aren’t helpful. I feel expired already.

However, both my mum and MIL in their sixties saying they don’t recognise the “ugly old lady” in the mirror and how “horrible” aging is. So it can’t be solely generational.

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It’s not generational, it’s as old as time. “Stay young and beautiful if you want to be loved” was a popular song in the 1930s. We’re supposed to be more enlightened now.

I’m older than both your mum and mil and I just feel really sad for them. I see an older version of the person I always was. For me getting old is a privilege, I very nearly died when I was 23 so the subsequent 47 years are a bonus and I still scrub up pretty well when I make the effort.

Jl2014 · 29/03/2024 11:15

It’s the shiny, sweaty Botox forehead that really freaks me out

Workhardcryharder · 29/03/2024 11:11

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 29/03/2024 11:07

What's bitchy about expressing dislike for an unnatural look though?

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Judging people based on their looks is the definition of bitchy is it not? At least own it

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 29/03/2024 11:07

Cas112 · 29/03/2024 11:04

Such a bitchy thread

What's bitchy about expressing dislike for an unnatural look though?

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 29/03/2024 11:06

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 09:33

I’m not saying no older women look good! They do and can. Just that I’m yet to see an older woman who looks better than when she was young and line free etc.

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Women look different as they age - trying to look young isn't the key, embracing yourself, your lines, your different hair colour/texture, different skin tone and so on, that's the way to go.

Workhardcryharder · 29/03/2024 11:06

Cornishpasty342 · 29/03/2024 01:24

I’ve got some filler in my lips and will definitely get Botox in the future. I get O.5ml every 2 or 3 years as I have no top lip and when I smile it vanishes completely. I look 100% better with the filler and feel so much happier and more confident. I have never had anything done to please other people and do it to make me happy.

I think most people on mumsnet think they can “always tell” but really they can tell when someone has got a ridiculous amount. A small bit it very unnoticeable to people you know let alone strangers

Cas112 · 29/03/2024 11:04

Such a bitchy thread

Bluestarling · 29/03/2024 11:04

Featherlightdumplings · 29/03/2024 10:46

Great post Blossomtoes 👏👏👏

It is hard sometimes to age, especially if your body fails you in some way through illness, but my own personal opinion is that, if you haven’t as an older woman, say around the mid-fifties, developed enough backbone, character and confidence in yourself to resist injecting your face with a load of chemicals, then you need to work on those internal things rather than the external face you present to the world.

I know some people will argue that having external procedures done helps with that process and each to their own, but the more individuals succumb, the more it becomes the expected “norm” for everyone.

Those arguments aside, I just don’t think it looks good. The big lips and the emotionless faces I mean. I like quirky characterful faces. And wrinkles!

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At the age of 50 you can do whatever you want to your face and body. A few tweaks doesn't equate to a lack of backbone/character etc etc....its not mutually exclusive

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 29/03/2024 11:03

blacksocks33 · 29/03/2024 07:16

I was just about to post this about the lips... I think a more natural look is definitely becoming more common!
I don't have Botox but I do love the smooth Botox forehead look!

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An about 30 yo colleague recently told me about her use of Botox over a few glasses of wine.

Never would have guessed it in her case.

I obviously don’t know how it will look in 10-20 (30…) years, but she currently looks absolutely fantastic. Not that this is particularly hard when one is barely 30, but still… I wouldn’t mind getting that kind of Botox 😅

But I’d be too worried about potential side effects / how Botox could potentially affect the brain.

so I’ll stick to sunscreen, retinol and facials 😅

letitlego · 29/03/2024 10:57

I think it's ok to want to look
Like your younger self but fillers are making people look like someone else entirely

Angelsrose · 29/03/2024 10:57

I think it's a shame that so many young women in their 20s feel pressured to have so much work done when it's so unnecessary. But each to their own.

ColBoulter · 29/03/2024 10:57

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 10:44

I’m not! I said you can’t win with aging!

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I'm not trying to win
That's the point !

letitlego · 29/03/2024 10:56

Some people look younger than they did when they really young

Look st Madonna. Yes, an extreme version but her face looks like a baby wearing make up. She's 66

Atethehalloweenchocs · 29/03/2024 10:55

There is a woman in a group I go to who has a lot of filler and botox - she looks so strange and actually would probably look better without puffy cheeks and lips. The first time you meet her it is quite jarring, she looks so alien. Trends pass, I hope this one does soon. And the wrinkles people will be left with after filler wears off will be massive.