Botox, frozen faces and big lips

Ps clean girl isn't necessarily no make up, just very natural and pared down.

I disagree
As an older woman it's a good haircut, good skincare, light make up with well made, well fitting clothes.
The best version of yourself.
Even if someone has a few wrinkles the above looks good on them.

I've been watching lorry hill videos. Even the slebs I thought haven't had adaptations have. It's a bit depressing.

Some botox looks good imo I'm v happy with my two areas. I certainly don't judge procedures.

But the buckle fat removal makes people look like skeletor and I don't understand it.

I always thought makeup was meant to make you look like yourself, but a better version- hence accentuating eyes/ lips/cheek bones. It also meant you could play around with different looks (hello goth years me!)The lip/eyelash/filler thing just makes everyone look the same.

Interesting that the clean girl aesthetic is growing. It's much harder to pull off as an older woman, which is presumably part of the attraction. Dd looks lovely in just her skin; I look like my face has melted without some colour. I am pale as a corpse though.

eyebrows like slugs are very popular up North 🤣

I completely agree. Fashions always get extreme right before they change, and I think we've reached the limits of the plastic, over made-up look. Some people of course will always hang onto a trend if they really like it, but most will just move on to the next big thing.. and then end up over-doing that too. Perhaps the natural look will get to the stage where we can just let our upper lip hair grow wild, I'd like to see that!😂

Yes I agree, see loads in our town centre, all look like clones, thick ugly eyebrows, eyelashes like melted LPs. Swollen lips you see coming around the corner before the person- it’s a shame that they spoil their faces. My friends daughter has lost part of her nose due to filler blocking a blood vessel, the skin has died & now scarred for life. Most fellas hate all that fakery!

I have Botox but wouldn’t have lip fillers. It’s not the young people who go overboard that is key here. It’s the women who have it quietly and without fuss and are told by friends that they don’t need it. I am hopefully one of them. No one has asked me whether I have had anything done, when I have told them if it happens to come up in conversation 9 times out of 10 I get a text or email asking me how much it cost, whether it hurts and how they would never have guessed.

I go to someone who has a light touch and is known for it. She tells me there are many practitioners who are less light handed because some women like to look ‘done’.

I think it helps that I have a fringe and hair around my face. I have a friend who has had a face lift. It’s OK but it wouldn’t be for me. Up to her of course.

I think it's on its way out already tbh and it looks very dated/ down market
"Clean girl" is in.
Meticulous skin care,glassy complexion,minimal look make up,glossy hair.
Lots of Korean skincare and use of daily spf.

I’m not a delicate flower and can happily laugh at myself as well as others like most people I know. There are funny videos of women revealing their duck lips that their family or OH find hilarious. They’re not fussed they like the attention and know exactly what their family’s reaction will be. But they like everyone I know have a sense of humour.

It’s insecurities that feed this obsession with duck lips, BBLs, fake eyebrows, tans etc. I’ll keep my natural look with wrinkles as I don’t need to conform to some weird porn star look.

We used to cover our faces with white powder and shave our hair-lines to get higher foreheads. It's just a fashion, and like all fashions it will disappear.

i look miles better for having a bit of Botox. Everyone always comments that I look well afterwards although I don’t go for the full frozen look. I look loads older than my age without it- pale girl with sun damage
im not a big fan of all the fillers but if it makes women feel better then that’s their call not mine

Yes, sadly.

Like this…

I'm just going to say I like you. 🌻

I've read a lot of your posts tonight and I really respect the way you conduct yourself. It's nice to see.

First of all this made me laugh!

Second of all. I'm sad you aren't Seth Rogan. I'm pretty sure I'm meant to be his best friend.

Yeah it really is an odd look. I watched that new Lindsey Lohan film (I know🙄) and I thought all the work she had done made it look like she was mid 40's. I was shocked to see she was the same age as me. It also.made a terrible film worse, because I think facial expressions would.have helped.

Someone who was very attractive?

Would be interested to read more - could you send a link please? I have always suspected Botox can’t be good long term but would be good to see what the science is saying

I don't know anyone in real life who looks like this. It's only a trend with chavs.

A once stunning family member now looks like Janice from the muppets.

Someone who was attractive?

I am an ex model and actress. I was considered beautiful. I still am I think, however I don't look like I did in my twenties. I'm in my 40's. None of us look 25.

My step mom was always gorgeous. She is now in her late 60's and she's still a knockout. She has an incredible unique almost legendary sense of style and the warmest most vivacious personality. That woman can work a room. Everyone loves her. Her age is irrelevant. Her humour and compassion are magnetic.

No one cares she isn't 20 or even 40. She just oozes confidence and charisma. She makes everyone feel seen and heard and her looks are the last thing you think about after meeting her, but you will remember how she made you feel.

Looks fade for all of us and if we are lucky enough to age, hopefully ageing is seen as the gift it truly is.

I've lost too many incredible friends who were in their 30s and 40s to begrudge the time I've been given.

I used to work near a plastic surgery and so saw a lot of the same 'look'. Of course some people get subtler enhancements but other people go for a particular look (the very big lips, big boobs). I dont think many people look better after than they did before (in terms of the heavy surgery look).

Presumably people who know they were very attractive. It's okay to acknowledge that. What's the point of pretending?

“I was very attractive” 🤢who says that