Botox, frozen faces and big lips

Almost no-one I see looks like this. I live in Oxfordshire (nowhere especially posh!). Someone with the heavily Botoxed look would be very noticeable. Perhaps it's a regional thing?

It doesn't replace anything, just gives an illusion of doing so, but it's your money and your body so clearly also your choice.

I love having Botox and fillers. I am old, and in my case it replaces what used to be there but then disappeared, ie smooth skin and a discernible upper lip .

Does it really matter? People are entitled to look - or alter their appearance - in any way that makes them happy. It’s absolutely nobody’s business and if you don’t like it, just don’t do it.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You can manage your face. Let others manage theirs.

You are correct we don’t know the long term effects of Botox etc. However we do know the long term effect of obesity, increased risk of heart problems, diabetes, cancers etc.
So is it okay to comment on people being fat?

Overall I definitely agree with you, but just a side note - everything is made of chemicals, so saying 'put more chemicals into their bodies' is a bit meaningless.
It was also on the news recently that Scotland has lots of these businesses/salons/people carrying out procedures, and many are actually not properly qualified to offer the treatments they do. Quite frightening really.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gejz2n7nro

Thee threads are finally making me see it - I met up with a cousin I only see occasionally last week, and halfway through the chat realised she's usìng Botox, we're both mid 50s but her forehead is completely smooth and probably the rest of her face too. Looked great tbh, it's the first time I genuinely contemplated it myself but gave up on the idea 5 minutes later. I'm currently spending ££ on trying not to lose my teeth, which I think has more value for me. It's our own money though.

My dp's ex wife has stuff done to her lips, I've no idea what. I do think it looks quite good, she's certainly better looking than me. I do see some terrible versions of the lip thing and the cheek fillers, and I think it's very aging. But then I thought a lot of the stuff we did to ourselves in the 80s looked appalling too - perms and oddly green highlights and whatnot, and bloody sunbeds (I'm amazed that you can still see sunbed places around, we walked past one in a mall in Basingstoke the other day, lots of teak-coloured women). I'm sure the sunbeds are more likely to kill you than cheek filler tbh.

Yourhappinessisourhapinessvom I see it more and more and live in a village not a city. Some of them look awful ,bother skin is very shiny and you're right it looks painful. Also true that you don't realise how attractive you are when you're young.
Of course it's everyone's own choice , I just find it a bit sad.

I’m also looking forward to the obsession over skincare passing. Pre-teens spending ££ on skincare routines - what?! And women my age (40s) absolutely terrified of their skin showing their actual age. Even without Botox they are buying into the marketing of all these companies spending a fortune on serums, gels etc just to put more chemicals into their body.

Yes I think it’s the fakeness of it all. Especially when paired with scruffy/casual/sportswear type clothing.
Clothing which is fine if you are doing a sports activity or have called somewhere after doing it. However it’s becoming increasingly common to wear this look for more formal occasions and it’s not a good look.
Its at odds to the rest of the body.

I was just about to post this about the lips... I think a more natural look is definitely becoming more common!
I don't have Botox but I do love the smooth Botox forehead look!

It actually makes people look older.

I actually think the big lip thing is on the way out.

I don't know anybody in real life who has big lips, but I feel like it's becoming less popular on TV. Which maybe will feed down…

I think @Yourhappinessisourhapinessvom is merely questioning how this look has become so popular? That's not judging. I question why so many folk apply such large eyelashes - I'm not judging them, sinoly curious as to why they like this clearly unrealistic look. It's their choice but it does intrugue me.

Swallowing tape worms?? 😱🤮

Ok so a lot of these women are fat. Is that better?
I see many overweight people, and they are a lot younger than me too. As you age you have an excuse. Wait until the menopause hits you and you will be the same.
What I think looks odd is fat fake lips, long spikey nails, botoxed face, thick spider eyelashes, fake hair ( or bleached hair with black roots) worn with leisure wear. So I see women with all of the above then they wear tight, arse hugging leggings, crocks and a hoddy.
It just seems all at odds.
It would go better with more stylish, fitted clothes.
I don’t want to see the outline of anyones pubic bone or arse thank you.
Oh and I’m seeing more and more scruffy looking fat men, plenty at an age where there is no excuse.
Is that better?
Ott faces and fat.

Im guessing the ‘not this again’ posters are sat there with their duck lips and frozen faces.

I’m with you OP, its a dreadful trend and everyone winds up with the same look. The most beautiful women I see are the ones with normal lips. Unfortunately there aren’t many of them around anymore.

There's nothing stopping you.

yes but not judging on appearances should preclude people having to do damaging and dangerous stuff to themselves in order to be acceptable to society. We no longer see swallowing tapeworms for weight control, binding feet to keep them small and wearing rib deforming corsets as being a good thing so hopefully this fad will burn itself out . We have no idea of the long term impact of botox and fillers on people's bodies so who knows what issues are being stored up for the future.

I agree with you completely. I was meeting a friend in a bar recently and we commented that about 70% of the young ladies looked the same. Long hair, loads of makeup, big lashes and pouty lips.. a more natural look is much more acceptable to me but then I’m old! 🤷‍♀️

It's a requirement for reality TV contestants isn't it?

Look ridiculous and yes this is 100% judgemental

Imagine I wrote a thread about not liking fat women with their lardy arses poured into skintight leggings; I would get slaughtered.
But they have ‘done’ this to themselves just the same by stuffing their faces with crap.
Either we judge people on their appearance or we don’t.
Are you beautiful op? I’m sure as hell not and I would hate anyone to critique my appearance.

I live in Essex and recently I went to a nail salon to get my nails done. There were 3 ladies on one side of me and 2 on the other and every single one of them looked like Kim K. They are not related as they were leaving at different times but all of them had impossibly long gel nails, thick and fake eye lashes, impossibly thick lips, filled cheeks, great skin and body but all of them looked so similar it felt weird. I have thin upper lip too and it literally disappears when I smile and I am very tempted to get some lip fillers but what I see outside doesn't encourage me at all.

Agreed.

The look is a walking “I need help”.

I’m totally used to seeing people with Botox now. And the lips - not my thing but I’ve also got used to it so don’t notice as much nowadays. But the cheeks - where the wearer ends up with tiny eyes sunken into a big puffy face, what is that all about?