Botox, frozen faces and big lips

Well of course not. I am 53 and don’t look younger or ‘better’ than my gorgeous 19y old. But I don’t want to either. I had my time and it’s all as it should be.

I do agree with this actually. As you get older, it's the turn of other people to be 25. Nobody can be eternally 25.

But if people want to get Botox that's their business 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don’t find her particularly attractive at either age so hard for me to say!

Nobody’s allowed an opinion then?

I could have all the botox, but I still wouldn't look young. I'd need a full face pull up, but then I think I'd just look stretched. And my hands and knees would still look old. I do wonder what people like Kylie Minogue, Amanda holden look like on a bank holiday morning.

I looked my best in my late 30s. My face thinned out a bit and I got cheekbones. I look ok in my 20s, but better in 30s.

Now I'm just making the most of what I have, before menopause takes the rest, my eye bags become trenches and my nose gets even longer.

It's none of your business what other people choose to do or not do to their faces. It doesn't affect you - nobody is forcing you to have it done.

Well of course not. I am 53 and don’t look younger or ‘better’ than my gorgeous 19y old. But I don’t want to either. I had my time and it’s all as it should be.

I just have a fringe 😂

But do you look better than you were young? I’m talking about comparison with your younger self and women should be allowed to botox if they wish.

I’m not saying you have to compete and shouldn’t. I felt terribly sorry for Andrea on married at first sight Australia when her 62 year old husband ranked her below 20 somethings in attractiveness! Completely unnecessary for her to be compared.

Watching MAFS UK, last year and two of the women with unnaturally looking plumped up lips, were constantly rubbing their tongue along their upper teeth! It was annoying to watch!

Personally I think Jamie Lee Curtis looks just as good now as she did when she was young. Her face is a lot more interesting now.

@biglipsdontcare Natural big lips look beautiful. The fillers fail to emulate that though, they look odd and distort lip function, for instance pushing forward the mucosa which then be one uncomfortably dry.

I was looking at the cover of a magazine last week and thinking this exact thought. The woman on the front was so incredibly generic looking. She could have been anyone, Megan fox, Kim khardashian, soap star, 20 something you'd see on a night out. So boring.

I think people get carried away with it and have more and more procedures. The shiny look gives it away every time, aside from the artificial look it produces. I watched a really good series on TV recently, but found it difficult to suspend disbelief at the main character, because her face couldn’t show the expression and emotion she was supposed to be portraying. The acting was fine and she’s a beautiful woman, but the frozen expression is off putting.

I’ve seen some really badly applied false lashes too. I expect people thought the same when we applied them in years past, but they certainly weren’t the woolly caterpillar type that’s now in vogue.

Why does the standard have to be " better"
I'm late 50s and fine as I am thanks
Of course a younger woman will look lovely, youth, oestrogen etc
Who has decided older women need to compete with that?
Seriously fucked up

Why has it been suddenly decided every face suits plump lips and high cheek bones (achieved by filler)? They don’t plus it eradicates all individuality.

I’m not saying no older women look good! They do and can. Just that I’m yet to see an older woman who looks better than when she was young and line free etc.

I’m 62, and have never had anything done. I dye my hair and use serum and cream and that’s it. I’m happy with how my face looks. My weight is another mater though……

I hate lip filers with a passion. weirdly I have tiny lips so if anyone should have them..

I think it's sad that we're still feeling the need to look young in order to feel valued. In mid 40s and am determined to resist botox etc, but there is a part of me that worries about looking older and more unattractive than peers who have gone the full hog. Then that makes me feel a bit pathetic, because why should it matter?

It does tend to be younger people who do eyelashes lips etc. I think the big thick eyelashes, when paired with creosote tan tend to look grubby and make eyes look smaller.

yep! I considered botox a few years ago but soo glad I didnt

I can’t remember which actress it was but I watched her thinking she must be one of the most beautiful women of all time….with her thin lips!

Meg Ryan? she has had some awful work done

You can. It’s as simple as accepting that it’s a natural part of life’s process and refusing to worship at the altar of youth.

This. My mother is 70, she has never had:

• botox
• fillers
• any cosmetic procedure of any kind

She eats healthily and exercises, has pretty consistently been a size 12/14 and she looks lovely, lines and all.

My mother in law is very slim and i think it has aged her a bit more around the face but she also looks fabulous.

I'm 38, i don't look the way I did at 25 and that's ok! I'm a mother and it shows in my body and probably my face. I don't look like a model but I'm happy in my own skin.

It really does. None of them actually look young.

I’ve been on a 90s movie nostalgia kick. And it’s struck me how unique the leading women’s face are. Obviously with the absence of Botox and filler but they are also not overly done with drag queen levels of make up nor the same long wavy hair styling.

I can’t remember which actress it was but I watched her thinking she must be one of the most beautiful women of all time….with her thin lips!

I work in central London and both my office and the tube are full of young women with very obvious lip filler.

I find it quite grotesque, it looks distorted and uncomfortable. I appreciate this is only my opinion and in RL i keep that to myself.

I also find it incredibly sad that women are so unhappy with their appearance as to want to do this.