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Botox, frozen faces and big lips

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Yourhappinessisourhapinessvom · 28/03/2024 22:34

Will this trend ever end, does anyone think?
I don’t judge anyone getting surgery etc, heaven knows I need help with my lines…but the same as everyone else look is pretty weird.
Have just seen some videos from the 80’s & 90’s and just the variation in the way actors etc looked is incredible, so natural and beautiful

Also hoping all this ends by the time my Dd is a teen. I was a teen in the 90’s, yes we wore make up and cared how we looked, but nothing like these days

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biscuitsnow · 29/03/2024 10:48

Bluestarling · 29/03/2024 10:39

Yep ...Hair texture changing and looking more like Rod Stewart's everyday 🤦

Yes!!!!! I now have to take thyroid meds too as my hair got really dry and thyroid underactive. Never had that issue in my 20s. Ageing is shit.

Featherlightdumplings · 29/03/2024 10:46

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 10:22

aging is scary for most!

I disagree. Most people find it a perfectly normal part of life’s journey. If it scares anyone we need to address that as a society because it’s inherently unhealthy.

This isn’t about individual women’s choices about doing whatever they like to their faces. It’s about a society that makes women feel the need to obliterate every sign of age as if ageing is shameful. A society that’s made youth a deity at whose altar we feel obliged to worship.

It’s about women becoming invisible as they get older, all the derogatory terms applied to women all prefaced by “old”. Old bag, old trout.

Every woman in the public eye is pressurised to fight back the years and that trickles down to the rest of us. How many women would make the choice to have stuff injected into her face if society wasn’t telling her age is ugly?

Great post Blossomtoes 👏👏👏

It is hard sometimes to age, especially if your body fails you in some way through illness, but my own personal opinion is that, if you haven’t as an older woman, say around the mid-fifties, developed enough backbone, character and confidence in yourself to resist injecting your face with a load of chemicals, then you need to work on those internal things rather than the external face you present to the world.

I know some people will argue that having external procedures done helps with that process and each to their own, but the more individuals succumb, the more it becomes the expected “norm” for everyone.

Those arguments aside, I just don’t think it looks good. The big lips and the emotionless faces I mean. I like quirky characterful faces. And wrinkles!

Boomboxio · 29/03/2024 10:46

I think it can look really good the first few times and then it just spirals badly

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 10:44

ColBoulter · 29/03/2024 10:21

Challenging someone who has decided its an issue I don't look " better" is not obtuse.
You are pushing an impossible standard.

I don't want to look better

I’m not! I said you can’t win with aging!

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 10:43

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 10:22

aging is scary for most!

I disagree. Most people find it a perfectly normal part of life’s journey. If it scares anyone we need to address that as a society because it’s inherently unhealthy.

This isn’t about individual women’s choices about doing whatever they like to their faces. It’s about a society that makes women feel the need to obliterate every sign of age as if ageing is shameful. A society that’s made youth a deity at whose altar we feel obliged to worship.

It’s about women becoming invisible as they get older, all the derogatory terms applied to women all prefaced by “old”. Old bag, old trout.

Every woman in the public eye is pressurised to fight back the years and that trickles down to the rest of us. How many women would make the choice to have stuff injected into her face if society wasn’t telling her age is ugly?

Well it’s scary for everyone in my generation - I’m between millennial and gen z. We often discuss how afraid we are and what treatments/serums etc we are using to prevent aging! Maybe it is society now. Studies like the ones showing how men are only attracted to youth certainly aren’t helpful. I feel expired already.

However, both my mum and MIL in their sixties saying they don’t recognise the “ugly old lady” in the mirror and how “horrible” aging is. So it can’t be solely generational.

Bluestarling · 29/03/2024 10:39

No offence meant to Rod Stewart

Bluestarling · 29/03/2024 10:39

biscuitsnow · 29/03/2024 10:34

Nah...ageing is a bit shit really

I agree. Since being in peri menopause I've been finding it a bit shit to age tbh. Flooding periods, moods all over the place, anxiety, sweating more etc Sure it may be normal but there are many aspects to ageing which are not very pleasant and I dont think most people enjoy the physical aspects of ageing at all.

Yep ...Hair texture changing and looking more like Rod Stewart's everyday 🤦

biscuitsnow · 29/03/2024 10:34

Nah...ageing is a bit shit really

I agree. Since being in peri menopause I've been finding it a bit shit to age tbh. Flooding periods, moods all over the place, anxiety, sweating more etc Sure it may be normal but there are many aspects to ageing which are not very pleasant and I dont think most people enjoy the physical aspects of ageing at all.

Bluestarling · 29/03/2024 10:29

Nah...ageing is a bit shit really

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 10:22

aging is scary for most!

I disagree. Most people find it a perfectly normal part of life’s journey. If it scares anyone we need to address that as a society because it’s inherently unhealthy.

This isn’t about individual women’s choices about doing whatever they like to their faces. It’s about a society that makes women feel the need to obliterate every sign of age as if ageing is shameful. A society that’s made youth a deity at whose altar we feel obliged to worship.

It’s about women becoming invisible as they get older, all the derogatory terms applied to women all prefaced by “old”. Old bag, old trout.

Every woman in the public eye is pressurised to fight back the years and that trickles down to the rest of us. How many women would make the choice to have stuff injected into her face if society wasn’t telling her age is ugly?

ColBoulter · 29/03/2024 10:21

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 10:15

You are being deliberately obtuse.

That’s great for you if you don’t compare yourself to your younger self or desire to look more beautiful but many women do and if they want to have treatments to make them feel better about themselves it shouldn’t be judged! You can’t blame society for the way every person feels about themselves, aging is scary for most!

Challenging someone who has decided its an issue I don't look " better" is not obtuse.
You are pushing an impossible standard.

I don't want to look better

Testina · 29/03/2024 10:21

“heaven knows I need help with my lines…”

So you know why people do it then?
I can honestly say I have never thought that I need “help” with my natural face.

ColBoulter · 29/03/2024 10:19

TodayIsNotMyDay · 29/03/2024 10:10

Tbf, this happens, a lot here.
Fatphobia is really rife on MN (and everywhere).
You wouldn’t get ’slaughtered’ at all, that’s silly.

Personally I think very overweight/ underweight people and those who are overdoing the procedures are symptomatic of MH issues in the absence of illness etc
I don't feel disgust just empathy that their vulnerability shows in this way.
Saying these things are no ones business is in some way true but when we have women talking about being unable to house or buy food for their children but they have nails, eyebrows,filler, lips and hair extensions we are moving into exploitation.

FootballFriend · 29/03/2024 10:19

I think the point is that as a younger person you didn’t look startled and with puffy lips and a square jaw. But each to their own.

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 10:15

ColBoulter · 29/03/2024 10:05

Completely unnecessary for her to be compared

That's the point though.
Why are you asking me if I look better?
Who has decided this is the standard
I look like me
Better doesn't come into it

You are being deliberately obtuse.

That’s great for you if you don’t compare yourself to your younger self or desire to look more beautiful but many women do and if they want to have treatments to make them feel better about themselves it shouldn’t be judged! You can’t blame society for the way every person feels about themselves, aging is scary for most!

FootballFriend · 29/03/2024 10:15

I don’t like fillers as they make faces square and manly.

TodayIsNotMyDay · 29/03/2024 10:10

Fairyliz · 29/03/2024 06:59

Imagine I wrote a thread about not liking fat women with their lardy arses poured into skintight leggings; I would get slaughtered.
But they have ‘done’ this to themselves just the same by stuffing their faces with crap.
Either we judge people on their appearance or we don’t.
Are you beautiful op? I’m sure as hell not and I would hate anyone to critique my appearance.

Tbf, this happens, a lot here.
Fatphobia is really rife on MN (and everywhere).
You wouldn’t get ’slaughtered’ at all, that’s silly.

Juliansfunkyshoes · 29/03/2024 10:07

Sometimes on my Instagram for you page, people “Yassify” pictures of Liz Taylor, Grace Kelly, Marilyn Monroe and they look TERRIBLE - like Kardashian clones.

What’s more alarming is sometimes I can tell when people have put the filter on say, a picture of Gwyneth Paltrow in the 90s and loads of people DO NOT realise it’s a filter?! What can that be doing to young impressionable minds?

Justwrong68 · 29/03/2024 10:06

I find it hard to look at someone with enhanced lips when I'm talking to them (often serving staff).
It seems body dysmorphia is no longer questioned/ looked at which is dangerous

ColBoulter · 29/03/2024 10:05

IntoTheMild · 29/03/2024 09:47

But do you look better than you were young? I’m talking about comparison with your younger self and women should be allowed to botox if they wish.

I’m not saying you have to compete and shouldn’t. I felt terribly sorry for Andrea on married at first sight Australia when her 62 year old husband ranked her below 20 somethings in attractiveness! Completely unnecessary for her to be compared.

Completely unnecessary for her to be compared

That's the point though.
Why are you asking me if I look better?
Who has decided this is the standard
I look like me
Better doesn't come into it

Juliansfunkyshoes · 29/03/2024 10:04

There’s a Tik Tokker whose lips are so big and bumpy they literally look like a baboons arse. They look painful!

Crikeyalmighty · 29/03/2024 09:58

Maybe it's generational thing- I'm 62 and think they all look like they are in pantomime - not a good look

Soontobe60 · 29/03/2024 09:58

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 23:13

I am picking YABU because I agree with @EmilyTjP ... I am sick of this same thread coming up every week. Yes I think it's a shame these girls/women are doing this, (having fillers and botox and collagen and the like,) but I CBA to repeat myself over and over.

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Do you feel the same about MIL threads or parking threads?

DaisyMcFacey · 29/03/2024 09:57

Caterguin · 29/03/2024 09:52

I could have all the botox, but I still wouldn't look young. I'd need a full face pull up, but then I think I'd just look stretched. And my hands and knees would still look old. I do wonder what people like Kylie Minogue, Amanda holden look like on a bank holiday morning.

I looked my best in my late 30s. My face thinned out a bit and I got cheekbones. I look ok in my 20s, but better in 30s.

Now I'm just making the most of what I have, before menopause takes the rest, my eye bags become trenches and my nose gets even longer.

Why on a BH morning? 🤣🤣

I’m at the menopausal age. Not only does the nose get longer but ears keep growing don’t they! Why does this happen? Can’t wait for my extra long lobes to reach my chin!

Dollenganger333 · 29/03/2024 09:55

@BIossomtoes saying you don't like it is one thing but saying it needs to be stopped is another.