Botox, frozen faces and big lips

There is a women who goes to the same gym as me.
I wondered why her forehead looked like she had smeared it with chip fat. Seriously that is the only way I can describe it and this was before she had worked out. It’s obviously Botox. Looks bizarre . Makes her forehead look very stretched.
It’s not a good look it’s not a fresh natural shine just a greasy look.

I see it everywhere in the place I live. Orange faces or conker brown, fur eyelashes, natural pouts and lumpy hair extensions. This is mainly on beautiful young girls but some are older women with frozen faces too.
I saw a young girl who looked like a burns victim in Tesco... she was almost black in areas.
I really have nothing against somebody having some quality enhancing procedures if they feel it will enhance their lives but these examples just look so badly done and manky looking. This is usual coupled with really fat or out grown gel nails, again done badly, how does the baby get a nappy change with those poo scoops. This is an area of social deprivation and I do think the money could be better spent as none of the girls in question seem remotely happy or confident...

It does, it looks very weird and shiny.

I think it’s because it make the skin so smooth it becomes reflective. I’ve noticed it on people who’ve had it, gives the skin a plasticky look.

How could Botox make you greasy 🤨

No, the botox look is not glossy. It is unfortunately, greasy.

I haven’t noticed the back to natural trend much locally yet but I’m not out that much. I did see a some goths? and that was fab, at least they looked different. Been a while since I’ve seen any youngsters looking like individuals!

I do absolutely LOVE that the younger generation were what they want, and don't seem to do what we did in the 90s - dress to shrink ourselves and take up as little space as we possibly could. I really admire the no fucks attitude of it all.

I have noticed a real swing back to natural beauty, and it is nice to see. The TOWIE/Kardashian/Love Island look is going out of style except among a certain demographic, I think. It used to be that only really chavvy girls got themselves up like that, then it became more mainstream, but I think it's changing back again.

I went out last night (rare occurrence) and I noticed a lot of younger women looked far more natural. Not so many with big fake lips, fake eyelashes, thick make up etc.
Also a lot of younger women embracing their look and wearing whatever they liked, regardless of their size.
Having said that I only had a natural brown eyeshadow on, mascara plus lipstick. No other make up and no Botox or fake anything.

I’m trying to get my skin to the point where I feel confident going out without makeup. I don’t wear a lot, usually just a thin covering of a light foundation and some under eye concealer, plus a dusting of bronzer. I don’t bother with mascara very often as it feels uncomfortable.

I don’t really know why I don’t feel confident without it and it annoys me. I think it’s partly that I spent years carefully trying to cover up all my spots with foundation and concealer and it’s a difficult habit to break. I also have very deep set eyes so have always had dark circles and as I age the skin is area is looking quite hollow. If I’m being really honest, I worry people will look at me and think I look ugly/tired/haggard.

But then I think well who cares. When I go out I don’t really look at people’s faces unless they speak to me, and even then I don’t take anything in. So why bother. It’s nice to put effort in if I’m going out for an evening or for a special occasion but otherwise it all feels a bit pointless.

I think that it looks awful in almost all cases. It doesn't really look like glass, more like oil as you say.

The glass skin look is interesting to me as it’s how my face looked five minutes after washing it for years thanks to very oily skin. I used to have severe acne which I had two rounds of roaccutaine for, but even after the acne cleared up my skin remains quite oily. I used to go to great lengths not to have that look, including mattifying cream and masses of powder. I could never touch anything dewy or luminous, although as I get older I can see matte makeup doesn’t sit so well.

Same could be said for dying your hair. Do you think women who dye their greys are somehow incapable of imagining that one day they'll stop - when they feel ready - and transition to grey??

I've seen the sort of women that @LampShadeTaj means. Trust me, 'lovely' is not the first adjective that comes to mind when describing their appearance.

Point well missed. No one is judging them for looking young per se but for messing around with their faces.

Maybe it just makes her feel a little better?

I don’t know what you think happens after you discontinue Botox and the fillers. Or have you bought into the fantasy that it keeps ageing and wrinkles at bay forever? Or plan to keep at it, whilst the skin on the neck, cleavage, hands, bum continues its ageing process? What will you do about the brown age spots? The little red age spots?

@Notmyuser it's it entirely different to feel repulsed by the natural aging process, and changing features about which a person can do nothing, and something a person has done to themselves. Think about tattoos; they are commonly commented on it negative ways. Botox/fillers aren't really any different.

Repulsion of wrinkles and saggy tits is entirely different. That's just what happens to us to differing degrees.

I hate it that we as a society appear repulsed by aging. It others the elderly. Particularly elderly women.

I presume she means fillers. They can give a shelf above the lip.

What kind of Botox accentuated facial hair?

What would these lovely tong women think of your grandmother with her saggy tits and wrinkled face?

Why is it okay to judge someone for looking young but not looking old?

My SDIL suffers from PCOS and consequently battles with her weight and facial hair. Unfortunately, she's also a younger dead ringer for Pam Ferris in her role as Miss Trunchbull, wearing her hair in exactly the same style. Recently, she's dyed her hair a shade of maroon and had Botox treatment on her lips, which accentuates the hair on her upper lip and looks awful. She's a lovely person, though, and I'd never make any comment to her about her appearance, but I do wonder - just why?

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/news/a44434/miss-trunchbull-now/

Oh same @LampShadeTaj but in terms of fashion it was very much, you reach a certain age and wear a lot of brown, stick on a rain mate, get a sensible short haircut, and that's that.

My Gran had the most amazing skin, Nivea and a healthy diet! Plus she moved a lot, barely sat still. Did yoga every morning (we are of Indian heritage) Ate mainly vegetarian food, never drank or smoked. I do think having seven kids took its mental toll on her. She was always busy.