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StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 17:52

fully expecting lots of LTB here, but I just want an outsiders view.

He is notoriously bad at communicating, he buries his head in the sand. And mostly if he doesn’t want to talk about it we don’t.

He is self employed- I pay all
bills. His money is then used as ‘play money’. However he very rarely contributes anything. His money is spent on his fuel and him going to see friends (pub). If I ask for money he would give me some, but im not the type to do this. I expect a team effort. I never buy anything for myself.

the last month or so, his mum was taken to hospital , and came home the other say (she has a catalogue of health issues). Him and his 2 brothers aren’t exactly helpful with her. (Father died a while back).

he hasn’t worked since his mum went to hospital, nor has he visited her much (not enough to justify not working). He was meant to be decorating the spare room in her house while she was in hospital. Instead he used her house as a doss house for him and his friends to get drunk in - whilst leaving me at home wondering if he’s ever coming home. Lots of rows about how he’s not even considering my feelings- he’s sorry won’t happen again. things ok for a few days, then happens again.

now his mum is home- he is now the ‘concerned son’. Mum needs me etc- without actually doing anything for her.

last weekend Saturday, he was at work and said he will be home soon (this was 4ish) and we would then go get food (from a place we wanted to try). He turned up at 9.30. I was peeved. He was drunk. I didn’t talk to him (I know not to argue when he’s had a drink as don’t achieve anything). Still had a row, because I’m a miserable cow- he tried to leave- so I took his car keys off him. He was drunk and would have killed someone. He then spat at me twice. He stormed out, whilst I’m crying and I assume went to pub. He came home at 1am. I pretended to be asleep. He got up Sunday and went to work. Didn’t hear from him. He came home Sunday hardly spoke. Went to work monday didn’t speak. Came home we had a chat- kind of thought we were making progress.

tuesday, he’s at work- calls me says he won’t be late back and he will get food from the place we wanted to try. 6.30- I’ll be an hour. 9.30 home and leaves the take out bag in front of me- apparently I’m a miserable cow and ungrateful. He left and went to his mums- she doesn’t need him turning up drunk!
he hasn’t been home since.

im in the wrong. He’s stressed - (from my point of view I’d be stressed if my mum was as poorly as her but he’s not exactly the doting son) I’m pushing him to do stuff - the only thing I’ve asked for is for him to be home at a reasonable time and spend time with me. But that’s wrong.

I haven’t slept for days. I’ve got the worst headache and I’m numb. I haven’t done anything wrong- or have I?

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Autumnleaves4 · 29/03/2024 10:09

I’m afraid you’ll NEVER find any sort in of happiness with him. You need to throw him out. He’s gas lighting you and messing with your head.

it’ll be hard initially but in the long term the only way to happiness.

once you are a bit stronger you can move areas, nearer to family? Join a club to make friends. Find something you like to do, a hobby, a sport. Small steps

pavedwithgoodintentions · 29/03/2024 10:08

StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 17:58

not married. Rented house but all in my name

Boot him

He brings nothing but misery to your life and he only cares about himself

And he SPAT at you. Twice!

You will be happier on your own.

Causewerethespecialtwo · 29/03/2024 10:06

All of it was awful before, but when he SPAT at you, that should have been the final mail in the coffin. You can’t come back from this.

Please please please change the locks today. Call up a locksmith and tell them that you are ending an abusive relationship and need the locks changed for your safety. It’s a bank holiday weekend but there will be locksmiths on call.

Do not let him take everything in the house. He hasn’t contributed anything to rent/bills etc so even if he claims he paid for the TV, well tough luck, you paid for everything else to run the house. Bag up his clothes/toiletries/personal belongings and tell him they will be outside the front door on a certain day/time for him to collect, but that he will not step foot inside the house.

Thank the Lord that you are not married, don’t share children, he is not on the lease. What a relief, so many people are not this lucky and it gives you a chance at quicker split and you can block him and forget he existed.

I know it’s daunting when you don’t have a support network of close family and friends nearby. I totally understand that you feel scared and alone. But surely being alone and peaceful is better that the suffering this twat is putting you through. Once he is out of your life and the dust has settled you can make finding some new local friends your priority, take up some new hobbies etc. And Mumsnet is here to hold your hand while you do it. Keep posting and taalking to us xxx

LipstickLil · 29/03/2024 10:05

I could never afford counselling.

In that case, can I recommend The Freedom Programme? It's free and you can do it online: https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/. Something in your past OP, perhaps your own father's abandonment of you when you challenged his shitty behaviour, has made you accept such poor treatment by your current partner. For you to heal and have a better life in future, it's worth digging into why you've accepted this disgusting treatment so you can prevent it happening again in future.

The Freedom Programme. Learn about domestic violence and abuse

The Freedom Programme. For women who want to learn more about the reality of domestic violence and abuse

https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

NancyPickford · 29/03/2024 10:05

This man will drain the life out of you. You must convince yourself somehow that he is not worth giving house room to. And you have to find the strength to tell him it's over and to take the rest of his stuff and get out. And stop paying his bloody phone contract!!!

PeaceandCakes · 29/03/2024 10:01

I am genuinely clueless as to why I struggle to make friends. I get along with people, but not enough to make it a friendship? I could walk into a social setting and talk to anyone, and I would always receive comments of oh she’s so nice etc
but nothing comes of it.

But are you reaching out to them?
Do you ever follow up these meetings and suggest a walk, a coffee, a trip to the cinema?

What do you enjoy doing?

There are loads of groups around- walking groups, dancing classes, keep fit, yoga, drama, choirs, etc, even volunteering (at weekends or in the evenings.)

Have a look on Facebook for what's on in your area.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 29/03/2024 10:00

fully expecting lots of LTB here, but I just want an outsiders view.

Well I've not even read the thread yet, but I am fully expecting 11 solid pages of LTB, yes. Weren't you?

I'm not sure what sort of 'outsiders view' you were expecting that might differ from LTB, really.

He's a disgusting, lazy, drunken, good for nothing, misogynistic leech and a cocklodger who has zero respect for you. That's my outsider view and I imagine it's everybody else's too.

So what are you going to do about it?

LovedmyRaleighChopper · 29/03/2024 09:59

I voted YABU because you seem prepared to put up with this shit. You don’t want another failed relationship? You’re in one. No moving past being spat at, he has utter contempt for you. Thank God you haven’t yet fallen pregnant to this loser, come to your senses and boot him out home to his Mummy.

INamechangeOftenGonnaUseThemAllUp · 29/03/2024 09:57

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 08:16

I am genuinely clueless as to why I struggle to make friends. I get along with people, but not enough to make it a friendship? I could walk into a social setting and talk to anyone, and I would always receive comments of oh she’s so nice etc
but nothing comes of it.
My childhood was ok? Nothing out of the ordinary? Parents split when I was very young. Dad dipped in and out when he felt like it. I haven’t spoken to him for 10 years now- because I called him out on him not being a proper father - he never used to call/check in. This is probably the only time I’ve used my anger.

i moved from my hometown following a split, and decided to be a big girl as I realised nothing was making me happy around there. Even when I lived there my family didn’t bother checking in, nobody ever visited.

I am exactly the same as this. I have friends but I'm easily forgotten and am never the centre of the group. I recently split up with my long term partner. It's hard, it's really horribly hard and some days I think it would be easier to be back together and unhappy but not lonely, but I just keep telling myself that I am a great person with a lot to offer and deserve better - and it will get better.

Don't undersell yourself. You are worth more and you can do this.

ForTonightGodisaDJ · 29/03/2024 09:52

StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 18:02

He took some of his stuff the other night. Most of it still here. He says he’s taking everything, including tv.

I have zero friends. Literally nobody. I’m miles away from family- not that they bother with me. I work but relatively new job so don’t really know anyone there. I go to work and come home. I’m not a bad person so why am I the one sat here crying for days on end? At my age I should have my together. I don’t want another failed relationship

Your failed relationship has feck all to do with you though!

Bridgertonned · 29/03/2024 09:50

Op it's not the same as counselling but you could access peer support through a couple of routes

Freedom programme - helps you to recognise and address how you end up in abusive relationships
https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/

Al Anon, for people affected by someone else's drinking
https://al-anonuk.org.uk/

The Freedom Programme. Learn about domestic violence and abuse

The Freedom Programme. For women who want to learn more about the reality of domestic violence and abuse

https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 09:48

None of you know me. But every single one of you has offered kindness and compassion. For that I will be eternally grateful.

I will try to take all of this advice and put it into action. I need to take better care of myself but here I am wallowing

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RampantIvy · 29/03/2024 09:48

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 08:36

I am very passive, but I will check in on them (mum, sister, cousins etc) and when I receive nothing back that’s my answer, so I don’t try again. They will organise things through facebook (I don’t do social media) and then I’ll be an after thought and invited at the very last minute and then they slag me off because I can’t drive the hour trip (be it work or finances).

If your family use social media to arrange social things I can see why you get left out. I have a friend who won't even use WhatsApp, and arranging stuff with her in a group is a PITA. Everyone else can be on a WhatsApp group chat and I have to go to and fro with emails or text messages with her.

Even DH is on Messenger (but not Facebook).

Fingeronthebutton · 29/03/2024 09:47

i havnt done anything wrong have i
having sucker tattooed on your forehead wasn’t a good idea 😥

PeaceandCakes · 29/03/2024 09:43

I could never afford counselling.

A lot of counselling practices offer reduced rates for clients if they work with counsellors who are still training (with supervision.)

You can also access a lot of self-help online for free - start googling 'How to take control of my life, get out of an abusive cycle, build my self-worth' etc.

Come on- you can do this.

Let's see if by 10am you can get those dishes in the sink, get them washed, tidy up, brush your hair, make yourself look (and feel) good- best foot forward.

It's a fresh start- you can do this.

astarsheis · 29/03/2024 09:42

sorry wrong thread

CrepuscularCritter · 29/03/2024 09:41

Gymnopedie · 29/03/2024 01:46

Right OP. The first step is to be the bravest you've ever been in your life and kick him out. Don't think, just do it.

The second step is a fuckload of therapy, or at least reading a lot online if you can't afford the therapy. Because what this is screaming is that you have massive emotional consequences for yourself as a result of something in your past, probably but not necessarly in your childhood. The fact that your mother has shown no concern for you recently also points that way. And whatever happened it's made you a shell of the person you could and should be.

You do not believe you're worth anything. You do not feel you deserve to have friends. You DO believe that your purpose in life is to abase yourself by being nice to others, however badly they treat you. By letting them take as much of you as they want but never dreaming of thinking you deserve anything back.

OP please believe me. I don't know you. But I am absolutely damn certain that you DO deserve to be treated with kindness and respect. And you have to find out why you don't believe it yourself.

💐💐🌸

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I wouldn't normally quote so much of someone's post, but this is gold. Especially the last paragraph. You have so many years ahead to find a happy you. It starts with ridding yourself of this abusive man. Then finding what makes you happy by yourself. Don't be scared of a "failed relationship". The alternative is living it everyday, and you deserve far more than that.

OccasionalHope · 29/03/2024 09:38

He’s a drunk, abusive cocklodger.

Dump him now.

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 09:37

Every single thing that has been said is right. And I’d be saying the same to someone else.

i don’t think I make excuses for his behaviour but I have allowed it based on promises and the ‘potential’ that comes with it. I hope for more.

I could never afford counselling.

I know I need to get my act together. I’m pathetic for acting like this. I can’t even muster the energy to tidy the house. I’ve filled the washing up bowl at least 10 times but haven’t got round to it. I know im wallowing I just can’t do it. I’m just sitting in my chair watching the birds dig for worms in the grass

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PeaceandCakes · 29/03/2024 09:37

If his mum wants to see you, ask her to meet you for a coffee in a cafe.

Somewhere neutral. On your terms.

Stop agonising and jumping to what other people want. Be a bit more assertive.

And, being blunt, when you split up with this man (which you must) she isn't going to be in your life really any more, is she?

PeaceandCakes · 29/03/2024 09:34

OP - reading your updates on no friends (and little contact with your family) do you think you give out an aura of not being interested?

It comes over in your posts as if you are waiting for other people to reach out to you. Maybe you have no friends because you aren't making any moves to make friends. Maybe you come over as distant or aloof?

You're also hanging on to this man because you have no one else.
If you had friends, they'd be there to support you and give you a sense of perspective. They'd be worried about you.

I know this might sound critical, but you have to learn to make friends. Don't wait for people to reach out for you.

If you rely on a man to fill all the gaps in your life, then that's partly why you are so scared of the relationship ending- and also why you're putting up with being treated like shit.

At 36, it sounds as if you have a history of being treated badly.

Time to do some self-analysis as to why you have ended up with this man, allowed him to treat you badly, and have no one else to turn to.

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 29/03/2024 09:34

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 08:21

I did manage to get a bit of sleep last night. But now it’s like Groundhog Day.

his mum asked if I could visit her today. I am unsure. I don’t think he will be there as she said he’s working. But I know he’s sold her this story that I’m the bad person for kicking off for him being late. That’s all he’s done wrong. So I’ll have to sit there and listen to her justify his actions, that have made me look bad.

You know her and we don't but is there a chance if he's spending more time there and regularly turning up drunk that she is worried about him and wants to talk to you about it without him there?

I would just like to say though, imagine a day without all this worry about him. Just imagine how free you would feel.

you moved following a breakup and by the sounds of things started a relationship with him very shortly afterwards. I get the feeling you don't really know who you are any more.

Dump him and find out.

Walkaround · 29/03/2024 09:31

From the perspective of an outsider, he sounds like a useless, pointless, alcoholic, abusive twat. Your life will continue to be miserable if you remain with him.

Sometimes, to maintain healthy friendships, you have to be the proactive one, not passively wonder why no-one else makes the effort. Again, from an outsider’s perspective, your passivity with regards to friendships outside your current unhealthy partnership with a waste of space, probably comes across as you being the one who is not interested enough to make any effort or take any friendship risks. Somehow, you need to get yourself into a mindset where you proactively leave this man and proactively make more effort with other friendships that do not involve you moving in with someone miles from anyone else you know and focusing on just the one, pointless person who gives you nothing but grief and excuses.

CarpetSlipper · 29/03/2024 09:29

Do you think perhaps you’ve made excuses for him because he’s lost his best friend and his mum is ill?

No amount of grief/stress/hardship makes his behaviour in any way excusable. Can you imagine spitting at someone? How much would you have hate them to make that somehow seem acceptable? Get rid of him.

LAMPS1 · 29/03/2024 09:29

OP, it seems to me that you have lived a fair bit of your life waiting. And then being disappointed.
Waiting for your dad to drop by.
Waiting for your relatives to check up on you
Waiting for friendships to develop
Waiting for this dreadful drunk to come to his senses. (Even though you know he never will)

It’s good you got angry with your dad. It’s good you moved area after your last break up. That’s exactly that potential inside you, that you have to resurrect and use right now.
Finish this relationship properly today. Text him to collect the dregs of his life in bin bags from your doorstep and to post his key through the letter box.
Tell his mum it’s over because he’s an abusive alcoholic who spits on you as he’s incapable of communication.
Then block them both and never see/speak to them again.
I know that’s hard but you really do have to do it for your future self.
From today, you are investing in your future.

OP, you deserve a million times better than the life you are living.
Take your time to get over this hurt. Read about how to help yourself. All efforts should go to that and to your job for now. You may need help from counselling.
Then, eventually, you can learn how to be a little more proactive with family and potential friends so that decent relationships fill your life. You can do this.
You are young enough to turn your life around so don’t look back. Good luck !