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StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 17:52

fully expecting lots of LTB here, but I just want an outsiders view.

He is notoriously bad at communicating, he buries his head in the sand. And mostly if he doesn’t want to talk about it we don’t.

He is self employed- I pay all
bills. His money is then used as ‘play money’. However he very rarely contributes anything. His money is spent on his fuel and him going to see friends (pub). If I ask for money he would give me some, but im not the type to do this. I expect a team effort. I never buy anything for myself.

the last month or so, his mum was taken to hospital , and came home the other say (she has a catalogue of health issues). Him and his 2 brothers aren’t exactly helpful with her. (Father died a while back).

he hasn’t worked since his mum went to hospital, nor has he visited her much (not enough to justify not working). He was meant to be decorating the spare room in her house while she was in hospital. Instead he used her house as a doss house for him and his friends to get drunk in - whilst leaving me at home wondering if he’s ever coming home. Lots of rows about how he’s not even considering my feelings- he’s sorry won’t happen again. things ok for a few days, then happens again.

now his mum is home- he is now the ‘concerned son’. Mum needs me etc- without actually doing anything for her.

last weekend Saturday, he was at work and said he will be home soon (this was 4ish) and we would then go get food (from a place we wanted to try). He turned up at 9.30. I was peeved. He was drunk. I didn’t talk to him (I know not to argue when he’s had a drink as don’t achieve anything). Still had a row, because I’m a miserable cow- he tried to leave- so I took his car keys off him. He was drunk and would have killed someone. He then spat at me twice. He stormed out, whilst I’m crying and I assume went to pub. He came home at 1am. I pretended to be asleep. He got up Sunday and went to work. Didn’t hear from him. He came home Sunday hardly spoke. Went to work monday didn’t speak. Came home we had a chat- kind of thought we were making progress.

tuesday, he’s at work- calls me says he won’t be late back and he will get food from the place we wanted to try. 6.30- I’ll be an hour. 9.30 home and leaves the take out bag in front of me- apparently I’m a miserable cow and ungrateful. He left and went to his mums- she doesn’t need him turning up drunk!
he hasn’t been home since.

im in the wrong. He’s stressed - (from my point of view I’d be stressed if my mum was as poorly as her but he’s not exactly the doting son) I’m pushing him to do stuff - the only thing I’ve asked for is for him to be home at a reasonable time and spend time with me. But that’s wrong.

I haven’t slept for days. I’ve got the worst headache and I’m numb. I haven’t done anything wrong- or have I?

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Madamlulu · 29/03/2024 15:21

StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 18:11

You know if I was reading this as someone else I’d be mortified. But once you’re In this position it’s hard. If he was a young lad I’d kind of accept they need to go through finding themselves etc… he’s 47!!

Could he be a functioning alcoholic? I'd advise you to look at Al anon for support for yourself and you might find when speaking to others that he probably is x

Madamlulu · 29/03/2024 15:20

Oh this is so awful and I'm so sorry to read this. You sound lovely and deserve so much better. Wishing you so much strength to get through this and move on with your life.

xxx

twattydogshavetwattypeople · 29/03/2024 15:18

StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 22:01

i know it’s not right, I know what I would say to someone in my situation. But Jesus it hurts. To know you’ve given your everything, I’ve tried to make it work. Ive clearly gone wrong somewhere. I know you all say it’s not my fault, but I’ve attracted him,
I’ve built a life with him, there must of been signs. I should have seen them. Im not a stupid person, I’m well educated, ive always held ‘good’ jobs.

I don't doubt there were signs, you might as well have had a placard round your neck saying 'I am vulnerable and ripe for exploitation', but that does not have to go on being the case.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 29/03/2024 15:08

StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 18:05

I wish it was. Sounds like a joke doesn’t it. But sadly this is my life

It doesn't have to be. You have control over who comes into your house. Why are you putting up with him?

DanielGault · 29/03/2024 14:31

Seaweed42 · 29/03/2024 14:26

I wonder do you rely on being 'needed' as form of self worth.
You met this man at a funeral where he was grieving his deceased friend.

You were lovely and nice. Maybe it was good to feel needed.

But maybe your partner wanted someone to love him, but he didn't necessarily want to love somebody in return.

High maintenance abusive men target women who are very nice and who put their own needs aside.

It's nothing to do with you as a person, you need to accept that.

You were somewhat targeted by a needy user of a man who was looking for a mother figure to continue having someone else to shoulder his responsibilities while he acts like a teenager.

You were penalised for being loving and caring.

Women are natural caregivers. We are socialised to be nice and loving and we often taught by our mothers to put our needs aside for rude, dismissive, absent, sick or drunk men.

It might suit a person to do that too, because then we don't have to face our own struggles in life.
The man becomes a distraction and a 'project'. We can fabricate a life around them and we demand very little of them.

You are not to blame here.
You did your very very best to help that dying man.
You need to forgive yourself and make peace with that.

Don't let yourself be defined by one event.
You don't need to keep trying to make it up to the world somehow.

You were enough already and you are still enough.

That's very thought provoking stuff. My Mum is 'nice', my dad had lost his mother young and had to 'bring up' 9 younger kids when she died. He was 14 afaik. Thank you for the perspective.

Seaweed42 · 29/03/2024 14:26

I wonder do you rely on being 'needed' as form of self worth.
You met this man at a funeral where he was grieving his deceased friend.

You were lovely and nice. Maybe it was good to feel needed.

But maybe your partner wanted someone to love him, but he didn't necessarily want to love somebody in return.

High maintenance abusive men target women who are very nice and who put their own needs aside.

It's nothing to do with you as a person, you need to accept that.

You were somewhat targeted by a needy user of a man who was looking for a mother figure to continue having someone else to shoulder his responsibilities while he acts like a teenager.

You were penalised for being loving and caring.

Women are natural caregivers. We are socialised to be nice and loving and we often taught by our mothers to put our needs aside for rude, dismissive, absent, sick or drunk men.

It might suit a person to do that too, because then we don't have to face our own struggles in life.
The man becomes a distraction and a 'project'. We can fabricate a life around them and we demand very little of them.

You are not to blame here.
You did your very very best to help that dying man.
You need to forgive yourself and make peace with that.

Don't let yourself be defined by one event.
You don't need to keep trying to make it up to the world somehow.

You were enough already and you are still enough.

DanielGault · 29/03/2024 13:48

squirrelnutkin10 · 29/03/2024 13:36

In the kindest way op you are being a martyr and a victim...please stop

You are a perfectly able and capable young woman of 36 with a home in your name and a job, turn the leaf
Stop talking down to yourself
Dump him today, do not discuss, just do it.
Focus on building friendships and career.
Ignore men for a long time
Enjoy the life you have

I am so sorry if l sound blunt, but a lovely friend at your age has cancer and wants to live so much, you have a perfectly good life and are passively being a victim.....please, please stop and start leading a better life with higher standards.

Stop giving a fuck what he or anyone else thinks and BUILD YOUR BEST LIFE

I know you're trying to kind/ helpful here, but your friend 's cancer has nothing to do with OP's situation. OP will act only when she comes to that realisation. It usually takes a few attempts to leave an abusive partner. And sadly no amounts of of other people's sick friends will magically make that happen (your post particularly struck a chord with me as my mum's friend got cancer and died from it, leaving two teenage girls with no parent) but it still took years after that until mum reached her 'rock bottom '. No amount of guilt will work, it has to be one's own personal decision/ realisation imo. Sorry again to hear of your friend's situation.

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 29/03/2024 13:40

Just dump him FFS

squirrelnutkin10 · 29/03/2024 13:36

In the kindest way op you are being a martyr and a victim...please stop

You are a perfectly able and capable young woman of 36 with a home in your name and a job, turn the leaf
Stop talking down to yourself
Dump him today, do not discuss, just do it.
Focus on building friendships and career.
Ignore men for a long time
Enjoy the life you have

I am so sorry if l sound blunt, but a lovely friend at your age has cancer and wants to live so much, you have a perfectly good life and are passively being a victim.....please, please stop and start leading a better life with higher standards.

Stop giving a fuck what he or anyone else thinks and BUILD YOUR BEST LIFE

viques · 29/03/2024 13:34

StuckHurtDone · 28/03/2024 17:58

not married. Rented house but all in my name

Thank goodness. Makes the next steps much easier.

chipsewfast · 29/03/2024 13:33

Yeah, LTB

NeedAnUpgrade · 29/03/2024 13:28

He’s 47 with no stable income, relies on you to keep him and earns just enough pocket money to let him go to the pub. It certainly isn’t you who doesn’t have their life together!

Can you afford counselling if you’re not supporting this man child? You are stuck with yourself your whole entire life so it’s worth investing in you.

PoshHorseyBird · 29/03/2024 13:24

Yes you have done something wrong. You haven't kicked him out! Sorry but if he'd spat at me he would have been ejected out the front door with my foot up his arse!
You need to change the locks immediately. So no, he won't be taking the TV. If he's left any of his stuff leave it outside the front door. Preferably when it's raining.
Surely being on your own would be better than with this filthy disgusting parasite.

Ohffsbarbara · 29/03/2024 13:22

Get that bloody phone contract of his cancelled whilst you’re at it.

Cheeky sod that he is.

Thats the spirit op - get outside, it’s a nice day. Go and buy yourself a big Easter egg for later - I have a wispa one waiting in the fridge!

babyproblems · 29/03/2024 13:19

He’s got a drink problem and you are really really not thinking clearly or rationally staying with this man in your life.
He literally brings nothing to your life.
The absolute best thing you could do for yourself is to get rid of him and move on living your life for you. What are you expecting to happen here long term? A magical improvement? He isn’t capable of being who you want him to be. Lots of luck to you op xx

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 13:18

I have also decided to not go and see his mum. I might take a walk and go celebrity spotting as there’s a fair few round here

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StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 13:17

Thank you all, and double thanks for those who have come back to check on me.

I don’t often think of the man who sadly died, but when I do it hits like a tonne of bricks.

whilst I am not mentally ready to pack his stuff, I have taken some small steps in changing things. I have changed my phone background from a picture of us. I have also updated my work details and removed him as next of kin. Same for my emergency details on my phone.

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NameChangeAgainAdvicePlease · 29/03/2024 13:17

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 10:46

I hate myself because I tried and failed to save a man. He literally died on my watch.

Surviving CPR is highly, highly unlikely. According to this study, it's 12%. People think it's more. Give yourself a break OP, not your fault one bit https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/patients-overestimate-the-success-of-cpr/

Patients overestimate the success of CPR | BMJ

Doctors should discuss CPR to clarify and inform patients before they consent to it, say researchers Patients and the general public appear to significantly overestimate the success of cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) and underestimate the negative...

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/patients-overestimate-the-success-of-cpr

Daffodilsandtuplips · 29/03/2024 13:15

You tried to save a man’s life, cpr isn’t easy and it isn’t as successful as the telly makes it out to be,

His main relationship is with alcohol, it will always come first, he verbally abuses you and now the aggression has started, spitting at you..abusive.

Don’t go and see his mother, you know she’s going to plead his case for him, she’s probably sick of him herself and wants him out from under feet.
Instead spend the time doing something for yourself, anything, it doesn’t matter what it is, so long as it isn’t what someone else expects or wants you to do.

LipstickLil · 29/03/2024 13:10

The chances of reviving someone who is in need of CPR and you're just a bystander are something like 6% @StuckHurtDone. It's incredibly rare to save someone outside a hospital setting and/or with no defibrillator to hand. So you should a) give yourself a huge pat on the back for trying and b) not feel bad. The fact is, you responded to the call from your neighbour and you gave that person a chance. You tried your best! But the odds were massively stacked against you succeeding and you shouldn't feel bad about the outcome.

eggplant16 · 29/03/2024 13:09

Get through the day OP. Don't mess about vsisitng the mother.

Ohffsbarbara · 29/03/2024 13:03

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 10:46

I hate myself because I tried and failed to save a man. He literally died on my watch.

I’ve come back to the thread to check up on you op only to find several more pages of wise mumsnetters saying the exact same thing. Is it sinking in yet?
Many of the women here have been through the exact same shit in relationships and know what they’re talking about - to end this shit show is the only way to go.

OP - I wouldn’t have even known what to do in that situation. You knew cpr and performed it until the paramedics came. So he had the best possible chance with you there. He still died - he would’ve died regardless. People die every day - it was in no way your fault - it wasn’t “your watch” you just happened to live next door.
Has that dickhead insinuated you are in some way to blame? What was he doing whilst you were performing cpr, hmm?

You sound depressed to me (it’s not surprising given what you’ve been dealing with), you seem to have a very negative view of yourself - do you think talking to the gp might help?

Please don’t take this horrible excuse for a person back op. Now is the perfect time to bag up his stuff and get him out whilst he’s at his mums. And don’t visit her - she’ll not be in your life if you boot him out anyway so what’s the point. If you feel like it just send her a text briefly explaining what he’s done and that the relationship is over, wish her the best and then block her. You have to do this as he’ll use her as another way to manipulate and wheedle his way back in.

I’m sending you a massive hug through the invisible tethers of MN - and I’m a good hugger as I have big boobs and chunky arms so imagine me giving you a big warm squeeze and letting you have a little cry on my shoulder my love xxx we are all here for you

This doesn’t have to be your life OP❤️

AcrossthePond55 · 29/03/2024 13:02

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 10:46

I hate myself because I tried and failed to save a man. He literally died on my watch.

You are not God, love, you don't have the power of life and death. You did your best, you tried your hardest. That he didn't survive is NOT YOUR FAULT. I'm not saying you shouldn't be sad or even feel a small sense of 'failure', no, maybe 'regret' is better word, that's normal. But you shouldn't hate yourself for it.

And perhaps I'm being all psychobabble, but do you think you may have some sort of 'saviour thing'? Perhaps you felt you had a 'mission to save' the cocklodger who is now causing you such pain.

I hold my own hand up as being previously guilty of thinking I could change a loser into a winner with the 'power of my love'. It turns out it was all about my own (at that time) low self esteem. Somehow I felt if I could 'save' some man that meant I was a worthwhile person. Counseling taught me different and I was able to get rid of that self destructive behaviour. I learnt to value myself and as a result learnt to choose men who would value me as a person worthy of being loved and respected.

You say you can't afford counseling. To my way of thinking, you can't afford NOT to have counseling. I'm not in the UK but I'm sure the resources are out there. Start with the Freedom Programme that has helped so many women. Start by reading 'Why Does He Do That?' by Lundy Bancroft.

And please don't see his mother. You need to be severing all connections to him, and that includes his mother. There is nothing she can say to you that will be helpful in your situation.

PickledFunion · 29/03/2024 12:44

Oh, sweetheart... Please reread your original text, then imagine this story being relayed to you by a woman you care about; your best friend, or grown daughter... What advice would you give them? Would you tell them to stay with this so-called man and put up with this treatment? I think not. You deserve so much more. Also, instead of thinking of this as a failed relationship, please try to think of the steps you know you need to take, as you regaining your self respect, and independence; treating yourself with kindness... Good luck x

Pthagonal · 29/03/2024 12:43

StuckHurtDone · 29/03/2024 10:46

I hate myself because I tried and failed to save a man. He literally died on my watch.

You didn't fail, lovely, you gave him a chance until the paramedics got there.

Wallow for today, and be kind to yourself, it sounds like you need it. Turn your phone off so that he can't contact you. Tomorrow, get the locks changed and bag up the rest of his stuff.