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To be annoyed this mum took DS's phone

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burtonplanet · 28/03/2024 16:49

DS(13) slept over at friend's house, along with one other boy. After dinner, the mum took DS's and the other boy's phones. The friend is not allowed a phone, and the mum didn't want anyone on phones during the sleepover. We have strict controls and app limits on DS's phone, such that he wouldn't have been able to do anything on it after 9 pm anyway except text or call home. We tightly monitor everything he does on there and know the dangers of teens having phones, but we feel like we're on top of it. We live in the centre of a small city and he walks and takes the bus everywhere. We like to be in touch with him and see where he is on FindMy, and he also needs an app to get the bus, and a few apps for his hobby. He messages with friends a bit but isn't really on social media. AIBU to think this mum was out of order? I know it's her house her rules, and on the one hand it's not a big deal because DS wouldn't really have used it anyway, except to probably text us goodnight and say if he was having a good time. But it just feels really judgy and unnecessary. This is not the only mum I know who is very anti smartphone and it just feels a little over the top. Just because a kid has a phone doesn't mean he's going to be on it all hours looking at porn and bullying people on social media. Sometimes they are just useful tools. Because this friend (who is 14!) is not allowed a phone, he is not allowed to walk anywhere on his own and lacks a lot of the independence we feel like it's important for DS to have. We don't want to be helicopter parents! Tell me if I'm BU.

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CRE2024 · 28/03/2024 18:13

LittleMissCantBeWrong1 · 28/03/2024 18:08

Christ. if they can’t approach the parent with an issue then they shouldn’t be sleeping over.

Exactly this. Phones are not a panacea for all sleepover issues and before you let your child become someone else's responsibility you should make sure that they can cope with being away overnight, or at the very least what to do when they can't cope anymore and their phone is not available to them.

StarlightLime · 28/03/2024 18:11

BeretRaspberry · 28/03/2024 18:10

It’s not terrible at all. I do the same (also had a what feels like a million sleepovers).

It's terrible, whether you do it or not. What difference do you think that makes?!

LittleMissCantBeWrong1 · 28/03/2024 18:11

its irresponsible.

burtonplanet · 28/03/2024 18:11

Hermittrismegistus · 28/03/2024 18:09

That's terrible. So you basically allowed children to have unfettered access to the internet?

Well I saw it as their parents allowing their children to have unfettered access to the internet.

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RB68 · 28/03/2024 18:11

TO be honest my main concern would be if he wanted to text to say come get me as he felt unsafe - he was denied that opportunity.

Other than that I don't have an issue with don't use it - maybe keep it somewhere he can get at it to message home if needed etc

BeretRaspberry · 28/03/2024 18:10

Hermittrismegistus · 28/03/2024 18:09

That's terrible. So you basically allowed children to have unfettered access to the internet?

It’s not terrible at all. I do the same (also had a what feels like a million sleepovers).

LittleMissCantBeWrong1 · 28/03/2024 18:10

Honestly there is a growing movement to try to reverse this utter dependency on smart phones in teenagers and I am absolutely here for it.

Hermittrismegistus · 28/03/2024 18:09

burtonplanet · 28/03/2024 18:01

I must have hosted a million sleepovers for my older kids and it never would have occurred to me to ask for their phones. My kids have their rules, and if the other kids are on TikTok all hours I didn't feel like that was my business. Is that crazy? I figured, it was one night, and if we had a real problem with the kid's behaviour we wouldn't have them back. I am just a bit more hesitant to impose rules on other people's kids.

That's terrible. So you basically allowed children to have unfettered access to the internet?

Rosestulips · 28/03/2024 18:08

dreadisabaddog · 28/03/2024 18:05

I take away phones at sleepovers but also tell parents no phones in bedrooms is my rule. I would give a child back their phone to contact a parent though

So at 2am you’d be happy for someone else’s child to come and wake you up so they can text their parent if for any reason they were wanted to go home? How many children do you think would also be confident enough to do that?

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 28/03/2024 18:08

DD is 9yo and has a couple of friends the same age who have phones.

I don't care what parental controls their parents have implemented, while in my care they don't take the phones up into her bedroom. I'm not facilitating unobserved access to the internet/messaging/videoing/social media/photos and whatever else they've figured out how to do.

I would rather be seen as strict and judgy than risk having a group of kids bullying others via Snapchat while in my control, or taking inappropriate pictures/videos. I also want to be aware of what my kid is seeing online and that they're not being exposed to inappropriate content. The easiest way to do that is to keep phone usage to areas of the house where adults are present.

LittleMissCantBeWrong1 · 28/03/2024 18:08

Christ. if they can’t approach the parent with an issue then they shouldn’t be sleeping over.

Librarybooker · 28/03/2024 18:08

We don’t have phones in bedrooms overnight here but the house rules in the house where your DC was sound a bit strict. These are 13 and 14 year olds? We call that a ‘sleep over”? Odd terminology for that age group. Is this post by a bot?

Marblessolveeverything · 28/03/2024 18:08

I attended a school's phone safety session recently. They advised exactly what this parent did. The reports of inappropriate photos being taken and shared are astronomical.

She did you a favour. I would advise anyone sending their child the rule is no phones in bedrooms end of. Too many innocent bad decisions ending up on the internet for eternity.

Topseyt123 · 28/03/2024 18:07

NinaPersson · 28/03/2024 18:02

I’d be peed off if someone took my daughters phone.

i like to know that I can contact her and vice versa, she has Asperger’s and I’ve collected her early when an issue has come up. And no, I don’t expect her to approach the parent.

it seems like a lot of you do not trust what your child is getting up to on their phones to be honest

I didn't want my DD having to approach the parents either. She would have been far too emotional and unable to cope.

The parents were usually aware that she did have issues, but I wouldn't have wanted her to be forced to discuss them with them. She'd have been more likely to have just gone walking and turned up anywhere when things were at their worst for her.

Never mind though, on here we are currently talking with people who have no experience of these things but who know absolutely how it should all be dealt with.

StarlightLime · 28/03/2024 18:06

EmilyPlay · 28/03/2024 16:55

My child, my rules. I'd have been annoyed too and he wouldn't go on a sleepover at her house again.

Best to keep him in Your House, in that case. Your rules don't apply when he's under someone else's roof.

LittleMissCantBeWrong1 · 28/03/2024 18:06

Smart phones should be banned for under 16s. I really wish this wasn’t even a debate. Your average 13 year old isn’t equipped to handle unfettered access to the internet (I know your child’s access is restricted OP but I strongly suspect that this is not the case most of the time).

By all means give them an old Nokia if you need to contact them 24/7 but no 13 year old needs a smartphone.

dreadisabaddog · 28/03/2024 18:05

I take away phones at sleepovers but also tell parents no phones in bedrooms is my rule. I would give a child back their phone to contact a parent though

Hermittrismegistus · 28/03/2024 18:05

Topseyt123 · 28/03/2024 17:58

What makes you think that I was not sensible enough to discuss things?

I've come seriously close to losing my DD before and that leaves its mark on you. Anyone who would not have been willing to let her have her phone would not have been trusted by me to take care of her. How do you think I knew who those people were? It isn't hard to understand.

The end.

Your ranty reply is what makes me believe you wouldn’t be sensible enough to have a conversation-completely inventing that I would take no account of a childs health needs.

Mnetcurious · 28/03/2024 18:05

CanNeverThinkOfAName · 28/03/2024 17:04

I’d have been bloody furious.

She did not have the right to remove your DS’s personal property, no matter that he was in her house or not. Would it have been ok for her to confiscate his wallet or an item of jewellery?

Smart phones are not the devil and I feel sorry for her 14 year old with such a restrictive, small minded parent. I’d be telling her that.

All my DC had phones from secondary school. The older ones have grown into fully functional adults. Youngest is 13 with the latest iPhone, does exceptionally well at school and we have no issues. Ad you say, we are more happy for him to have more independence as can always see where he is.

The taking of his wallet or jewellery is such a flawed analogy. His wallet or jewellery has no potential to damage her son, so she’d have no cause to do that. However a smartphone (potentially with no parental controls installed) could absolutely cause harm so she has good reason to say no phones overnight.

NinaPersson · 28/03/2024 18:04

Snugglemonkey · 28/03/2024 17:57

Having to go and say is awful. It just is not good enough for me.

I agree, my daughter and I agree a discreet way she is to contact me if she’s not happy for any reason. Not having her phone would take that assurance away

BeretRaspberry · 28/03/2024 18:04

Definitely her house her rules but she was BU for not communicating that beforehand.

I must be the worst parent ever because I’ve never taken my kids’ phones off them overnight. They usually put it on charge at sleep time.

I also don’t understand (apart from if they were on them when they should be asleep) what could happen after 9 o’clock (or whenever) that couldn’t happen before then.

Topseyt123 · 28/03/2024 18:03

CRE2024 · 28/03/2024 17:51

I would have assumed you might have mentioned this to the adults who were going to be responsible for her care.

Yes, but it tends to scare people off until they know DD, which the sensible ones soon did.

Hadalifeonce · 28/03/2024 18:02

Easipeelerie · 28/03/2024 17:44

Did you let the parents know you’d be doing this, in advance?

Didn't even enter my head to tell them.
They knew where their children were, they knew my address and 'phone number, I knew all of their's'.

NinaPersson · 28/03/2024 18:02

I’d be peed off if someone took my daughters phone.

i like to know that I can contact her and vice versa, she has Asperger’s and I’ve collected her early when an issue has come up. And no, I don’t expect her to approach the parent.

it seems like a lot of you do not trust what your child is getting up to on their phones to be honest

burtonplanet · 28/03/2024 18:01

I must have hosted a million sleepovers for my older kids and it never would have occurred to me to ask for their phones. My kids have their rules, and if the other kids are on TikTok all hours I didn't feel like that was my business. Is that crazy? I figured, it was one night, and if we had a real problem with the kid's behaviour we wouldn't have them back. I am just a bit more hesitant to impose rules on other people's kids.

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