For DH to insist on vaginal birth not ceasarean

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At the very idea that he thinks he can have any say at all over your body!

I'd chose a c section again for sure

I had a c section due to preeclampsia. Planned 24 hours before as I was only 34 weeks pregnant and they didn't want to risk me trying to be induced. Just as well as I delivered a baby vaginally after this that I lost at 20 weeks and it took me 4 days and I got an infection. Recovery from the c section was fine. Painful for a few days but I was up and about moving gently pretty quickly. I still have a scar but who cares it's not like I'm showing my belly every day. Healed really well. I only get overhang when I need to lose weight

Basically

For VB you are more likely to have urinary and faecal incontinence, vaginal tearing and pain with birth.

For CS you have a greater chance of peripartum hysterectomy, death, longer hospital stay, placenta accreta, uterine rupture and neonatal fatality, asthma, childhood obesity.

Otherwise similar.

I had a planned section. Within 6 weeks I was physically fully recovered and felt great. I 3 friends who had vaginal delivery all of whom needed physiotherapy and other assistance after birth, one who was extremely unwell. In fact of all the people I know who have had children, the ones who had planned section recovered faster and had less complications than the ones who had vaginal birth. I only know one person who had a straightforward vaginal delivery with no issues after.

Individual preference is very important. My mum almost died giving birth to me due to my size and ds was also forecast to be a bigger baby (turned out he was average enough) and it made me extremely anxious about the idea of a vaginal birth. The presence of adrenaline and stress related hormones we know can slow labour, increase perceptions of pain and make it more difficult for the mum. It's important that women feel supported and safe in whatever way they decide to bring their child into the world.

Do you know what

From NICE, everyone read at leisure, make up your own mind.

https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng192/resources/appendix-a-benefits-and-risks-of-vaginal-and-caesarean-birth-pdf-9074971693

But there is tonnes of evidence showing that there are long recovery periods and lasting injury for vaginal birth too.

You see to have an unbalanced agenda here regard painful CS and months of post op recovery. That isn’t a universal experience. At all

Women should have all balanced information to make an informed choice, discussed with the team looking after them

unfortunately birth has become very politicised and competitive. Insidious notions of what is a good birth or a vaginal birth is somehow better. These notions don’t address individual preferences and frequently there is a unbalanced discussion which emphasises risk and danger.

NICE guideline are women can chose a CS. Lets encourage choice and dissemination of balanced good advice for women

None of his business. He doesn't get to chose what happens to her body.

ETA: There's no such answer as this type of birth will be more/less painful, easier/harder, truamtic/fine. Its very individual, not just to the woman but can vary a lot between babies. My first birth was an emergency c-section. It was traumatic, the mental recovery was hard, the physical not so much. One of my friend's who had a vaginal birth took a lot longer to recover from her first, but second birth was a lot easier for her. Another friend had a very straightforward vaginal birth. I didn't find physical recovery from any of my c-sections problematic. My first birth it wasn't the c-section that was traumatic it was the bit before that and not knowing if DD would make it. That c-section was a hell of a lot easier than the natural bits that came before it. My mother had 3 very easy straightforward home births, I never managed to get past the very early stages of birth. There's too many possibilities and too many variables. If she only feels comfortable with a c-section that's what she should push for.

@Lelophants

’a nice section’ is major surgery it isn’t getting your nails done or a haircut.

Yes if it is planned you go in and it’s done within a few hours. But you have to go through a 6wk-3month recovery. Some saying 10days but that is not norm and even if you are up and about you are rarely pain free! Then there are the risks and negative health impacts.

Not worth it in my view, but as I said each to their own and if there is a medical need due to physical or mental health or health of baby of course it’s the right option.

Because they don’t want to go through labour and like the idea of a C-section. You could argue why would someone ever go through labour when they could plan a nice section (considering the majority of people are fine after and most women don’t want 6 kids).

Also the majority of women do want to try a vaginal birth. The ones that don’t often have very strong reasons for why they don’t. This is the age of modern medicine. Give women a choice with their bodies thanks.

This.

Bugger it! I vote that all women, from now on, must lay eggs... Cuts out all the faff... That's my contribution for the day, I thangyou! 😁

At the end of the day, it’s the choice of the woman who is pregnant how she wants to give birth.

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@LucyOriellsHat

That is totally acceptable - if you had a traumatic birth previously and are liable to get extremely distressed going through VB again then caesarean is the best option.

I’m talking about someone who is 100% for and health with no trauma/ptsd/mental health issues.

But regardless, if someone decides to go ahead with no medical need that is their decision to pay for it or to push for it via nhs.

Your decision (not his) but I would not voluntarily have a caesarean unless there is a medical reason.

Because for me I had a horrendous vaginal birth and didn't want to repeat it. C section wasn't medically necessary but by far the preferable option for me.

@Lelophants

Ps for both you and I caesarean was absolutely necessary and saved our lives and our children.

My point is if the caesarean is not medically necessary, why would you have it when the recovery time and risks are greater for Mum, and it has been linked to negative health outcomes for baby.

For me I obviously don’t have the choice anymore as too risky for future vaginal births, but if I did have the choice I wouldn’t take it. However everyone will have their own point of view and that has to be respected.

Those situations are for medical reasons not voluntarily opting for one

Funny, from what I’ve read there is no statistically significant difference between emergency and planned caesarean and ASD risk.

I’m by no means an expert, but I do have some background in immunology and neurobiology which is probably why I believe there is some contribution

Ultimately, as is well documented and you will know, causation is a combination of environmental and genetic factors.

He's probably concerned for her health, it's major surgery and has worse outcomes for mum and baby.
However, other than giving advice and his opinion it's ultimately her choice which he needs to respect.

Because it's sometimes safer for the baby, when you have a big baby and shoulder dystocia is a higher risk or polyhydramnios and at risk of cord prolapse for example.

Also from what I read @Justkeeepswimming this wasn’t true of elective sections but emergency. So completely irrelevant to the op’s post.

My son is autistic thanks. 👍 I was in labour for a week and could have died. Pretty sure if anything ‘caused’ it then it would be the labour, not the decent bit at the end.

From all the posts you can see there are horror stories for CS and horror stories for VB.

One thing everyone does conclusively agree on is that the father does not get a say in what happens to the mother’s body.