For DH to insist on vaginal birth not ceasarean

wrong. can request for any reason, doesn't have to be medical, and unless it would be actively dangerous for you to have a c-section (vanishingly rare, for example you had spinal issues that meant you couldn't have an epidural) you are entitled to one.

my dsis has had 2 c sections both was up and about wit very little pain next day was driving in 4 weeks

no man should have any say on this

It's not if you keep on top of pain meds and keep moving around.

The WHO reports than more than a third of women who have a ‘natural’ birth are left with long lasting, sometimes permanent health problems. No thanks.

My EMCS experience was completely different. They grazed my bowel so I had complications

actually need. the statistic refers primarily to women who tried to deliver vaginally and (usually after many hours in labour, the longest I've heard of was 48) needed a caesarean due to complications/exhaustion etc. I know women who delivered vaginally but then needed a caesarean for the placenta, etc. Otherwise if they were recommended in advance it would be an elective caesarean not an emergency one.
Doctors won't/don't sign off on them 'willy nilly', but planned ones are much safer than emergency.

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ very very naive to believe it's not the case here when it clearly is.

This is how they fool people. By being lovely in public

Just different hassle. There's no remotely easy way out of pregnancy sadly, although some births less difficult than others.

FFS read the thread or spend 2 seconds on google before embarrassing yourself.
Any woman giving birth can 'demand' (although most people would say 'choose') a caesarean. For any reason whatsoever, doesn't have to be a medical one. It's not a medical decision. The only input 'the doctor' has is they can technically refuse to agree it themselves (rare because they would be going against NHS guidance and would have to justify this) but they still then have to refer the woman to a different consultant who will sign it off.

But it's 'what you said before' I'm responding to.
Your literal quotes:
"Unless it’s absolutely medically necessary you should not be having a caesarean."
"the NHS should not be funding it."
"the NHS should not be handing them [elective c-sections] out'
not to mention your comments on what you think are/aren't good enough reasons.

How on earth can those statements be interpreted in any way OTHER than you not thinking your opinion should be prioritised over others and the actual NHS guidance?

Women can't demand a caesarian.
It's a medical decision taken by the doctor (unless there are complicated circumstances and it's a pre-elective CS.)

I personally don’t think elective csections should be allowed. I understand vaginal births are painful but why take a greater risk and a longer recovery by having a c section unless there is a medical need.

were these emergency sections after a horrendous labour?

Mine neither!

This is awful! Sorry but this is not a ‘sweet guy’. Absolutely no way he should have an opinion on this! Does he also insist on breastfeeding?

I almost died from both of my sections

would I recommend one?

fuck no! I had zero pain. But I had huge blood clots and no way would I ever risk that again

i spent a year in hospital!

This is my current experience.

I'm having twins, said I didn't want to deliver twins vaginally and that was it.

No counselling.

When he's pregnant, and his body is the site of birth, he can choose. Your pregnancy, your choice, your body.

You don’t have to have counselling. It is a free choice. I literally said ‘I’m having a c section’ and they said ‘ok then’.

I don’t know anyone who has had an elective who has been sent for counselling. Explain the risks, yes, then that’s it.

My 2 c sections were brilliant despite me being obese, geriatric, history of abdominal surgeries, other health issues. I was practically skipping by day 5. Could have probably driven if I wasn’t on my arse from lack of sleep.

Friends gave birth vaginally around the same time I had my sections. I was recovered far far sooner than they were.

I think you've been unfortunate then. My elective c section was nothing like that.

Mine either, I was up and about within 8 hours and totally pain free in a week.

Everyone’s experience will be different, we’re only going off what we’ve heard from people we know. However it’s the mums choice on how she wants that experience to go and the DP doesn’t get to say which type of birth she should have based on what he thinks is better

Depends on the person. My C section was not particularly painful even in the short term, far less "months"

After counselling and explaining the risks.
It's not just a free choice.

And that's probably where the DH is coming from. It's generally accepted that vaginal birth is "best" unless a CS is safer for specific reasons. If her DH is trying to persuade her of this...the same as her MW and Dr's then I don't see the problem.

Opposite for me, I know more women who've had vaginal births who had long term issues.