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My mum’s big birthday and daughter wants to do a gymnastics show

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Cofffffeeeplease · 27/03/2024 11:24

Hi there, I feel like I’m going mad and would be grateful for a sounding board please. My daughter (11) is part of a school gymnastics group which has been practicing to do a show. It usually happens over a weekend and we get only a couple of weeks’ notice of when the date is set. It’s also my mum’s 70th coming up. We’re a small family and pretty close. We’ve arranged a weekend together at my parents house (my DH, kids and my brother’s family) to celebrate the birthday - dinner Saturday night etc. We don’t get together very often - my parents live 4 hours away and my brother another 2 hours from them. As you might have guessed, date of gymnastics show has been set for the same night as my mum’s birthday. For context my daughter’s group will be one of about 15 groups performing- not a competition- and really casual. But, it’s her last one in primary school and she’s been practicing every week after school for this.

We just can’t do both - if she does the show she needs to miss the birthday meal (and all of the daytime stuff before it). My DH is keen not to upset my daughter and to stay with her to do the show and drive her up late afterwards. They’d get to my parents’ at 9ish - well after the meal is finished. My DH says I need to prioritise DD - but 70ths are a big deal. My mum wouldn’t say anything but would be absolutely gutted if my DH and DD missed it. I’d feel awful even raising the idea. My DH doesn’t have an easy relationship with my mum and so has no issue with conflict of loyalties. What would you do?

OP posts:
Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:27

'Maybe I am slightly biased as I’m usually in bed before 10, so someone rocking up at 9 would have missed my whole event'

Hmm. I think if it was your 70th you could push bedtime back until 11pm? That gives 2 full hours for photos and cake eating. This 70th may even go until the early hours imagine all the group poses that would allow. Perfect.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:24

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:22

I was being a bit silly and sarcastic. Usually folk that constantly say 'family first!' say things like discusting. 'Bubz' and 'little man' too but I didn't see the opportunity for that.

Tbf I do agree that seeing grandma on her 70th is important I just don't get the timing fretting. 9pm is fine. Everyone's happy.

Maybe I am slightly biased as I’m usually in bed before 10, so someone rocking up at 9 would have missed my whole event 😭😂

Needanewname42 · 31/03/2024 09:23

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:14

But commitments (made before the show date was announced) to family don’t matter? Bizarre!

Why did the Op make the commitment to dinner knowing the dates may well clash?

Why not say we'll need to hang off until we know the date of the show before we book dinner?
She knew the Daughter was training for it. It's not like it came out the blue.

SoozyWoozy5 · 31/03/2024 09:23

I think your husbands suggestion is reasonable, you go ahead and they join later.

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:22

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:17

Did you mean “disgusting”? 😂

I was being a bit silly and sarcastic. Usually folk that constantly say 'family first!' say things like discusting. 'Bubz' and 'little man' too but I didn't see the opportunity for that.

Tbf I do agree that seeing grandma on her 70th is important I just don't get the timing fretting. 9pm is fine. Everyone's happy.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:21

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 31/03/2024 09:18

Did that make you feel big?

If someone is trying to patronise me and be condescending I think it’s reasonable to suggest they learn how to spell first. HTH.

Legendairy · 31/03/2024 09:21

@Cofffffeeeplease we are a big birthday celebrating family in general but honestly my parents would be happy for my kids to do something like this instead of a birthday meal. We make sure that whoever is available goes to the meal. 70th is still just a birthday and you'll be there anyway. It would be really sad for your DD to miss her show that she has been working towards, its not like she won't see your mum afterwards.

Gabby8 · 31/03/2024 09:19

I’ve not read all the responses so sorry if this has been suggested already.

I think your DHs suggestion is the best fit- she’s practiced hard and it’s her last one in Primary and she’s still going to see her Grandma on her birthday. I think you could perhaps arrange something else special on top of the meal (e.g afternoon tea) with just your mum, you and daughter to have an additional celebration- maybe meet half way. Personally if I was your mum and feel badly she missed the competition, but, if your mum would be very disappointed perhaps the additional celebration would help to mitigate that. Also though it’s worth considering if anything happened to your mum how would your daughter feel having missed the birthday? Maybe doing an extra thing that’s special is a good compromise. Or just make sure you get an extra special thoughtful gift from your daughter xxx

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 31/03/2024 09:18

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:17

Did you mean “disgusting”? 😂

Did that make you feel big?

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:18

Lovelyview · 31/03/2024 09:17

Well, not that bizarre seeing most people voted yabu.

It’s not at all clear what the voting is so I don’t think that’s a good measure

usernamedifferent · 31/03/2024 09:18

I think those people saying she was committed to the gymnastics show before the birthday are missing the fact that the school didn’t say the date of the show !

Of course if months ago the school had said the date then the OP could’ve said in the planning stages of the birthday weekend then that weekend is out. But the school didn’t. They can’t expect these kids to keep every weekend free just in case they suddenly decide that’s the one of the show. What if it’s a child’s birthday that weekend and they’ve arranged a class party ? It’s very odd on the schools part and that’s what I’d be saying to my DD - yes you’ve committed to the show but they didn’t actually tell us the date in advance which says to me the school doesn’t think it’s that big a deal.

Lovelyview · 31/03/2024 09:17

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:14

But commitments (made before the show date was announced) to family don’t matter? Bizarre!

Well, not that bizarre seeing most people voted yabu.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:17

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:15

'I did read the OP 🤣 attending at 9pm would be missing the “meal” i.e. the main part of the event'

Missing the meal. How very discusting.

Perhaps they could save the cake until later , I mean I know traditionally that is after desserts with coffee but maybe they could save this very sacred of events and have the candle blowing out a bit later? It may be hard and I'm not saying many folk like yourself could cope with such a massive alteration in birthday procedures and protocols but it might work. Strength and hope to the op coping with this dilemma Grin.

Did you mean “disgusting”? 😂

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:15

'I did read the OP 🤣 attending at 9pm would be missing the “meal” i.e. the main part of the event'

Missing the meal. How very discusting.

Perhaps they could save the cake until later , I mean I know traditionally that is after desserts with coffee but maybe they could save this very sacred of events and have the candle blowing out a bit later? It may be hard and I'm not saying many folk like yourself could cope with such a massive alteration in birthday procedures and protocols but it might work. Strength and hope to the op coping with this dilemma Grin.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:15

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 31/03/2024 09:12

Not if there's loads of people. Someone has to sit the end

I have never, ever seen a grandparent stick their grandchild away from them at a family event, usually they are super keen to sit next to them. Am I living in a parallel universe and people in the real world don’t actually like their grandkids or something? 😂

usernamedifferent · 31/03/2024 09:14

I can absolutely see your dilemma but my issue here is with the school. Very odd that they have kids practicing for weeks on end for a show that they won’t say a date for until 2 weeks before. I think I’d have had to have asked the school ages ok to sort the date out due to the possibility of it clashing with this weekend. And if they wouldn’t, then warn both your DD and the school that there is a possibility that she wouldn’t be able to take part if it falls on the date of the 70th.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:14

Lovelyview · 31/03/2024 09:12

Our son is a member of a drama group and in the run up to a show and obviously for the show itself there is no way he misses rehearsals and performances short of catching COVID or similar. Part of the ethos of getting kids involved in this kind of thing is about learning to follow through with commitments and be part of a team. It's an incredibly valuable lesson for the future.

But commitments (made before the show date was announced) to family don’t matter? Bizarre!

Lovelyview · 31/03/2024 09:12

Twinkletoes127 · 31/03/2024 09:04

You mentioned that she has done shows before. She's likely to do more.
She gets 1 shot at being involved in her grandmothers birthday, there will be precious photos, that can't ever be replicated a few years from now.
Family first, always

Our son is a member of a drama group and in the run up to a show and obviously for the show itself there is no way he misses rehearsals and performances short of catching COVID or similar. Part of the ethos of getting kids involved in this kind of thing is about learning to follow through with commitments and be part of a team. It's an incredibly valuable lesson for the future.

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 31/03/2024 09:12

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:11

Really? Most granny’s I know adore their GC
and would be chatting away making a fuss, but perhaps that’s because the effort is reciprocated!

Not if there's loads of people. Someone has to sit the end

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 31/03/2024 09:11

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:10

She will be involved with the birthday just at 9pm. Do you stop taking photos at 9pm or something?

'Family first always' absolutely not. Compromise and workable solutions always first.

She's 70. Get a grip.

Yeah I don't get this obsession with the meal itself

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:11

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 31/03/2024 09:05

Exactly! It's not like there'll be much interaction if DD is sat at the far end of the table anyway. It would just be so grandma could watch her eat from afar. Pointless.

Really? Most granny’s I know adore their GC
and would be chatting away making a fuss, but perhaps that’s because the effort is reciprocated!

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:10

Twinkletoes127 · 31/03/2024 09:04

You mentioned that she has done shows before. She's likely to do more.
She gets 1 shot at being involved in her grandmothers birthday, there will be precious photos, that can't ever be replicated a few years from now.
Family first, always

She will be involved with the birthday just at 9pm. Do you stop taking photos at 9pm or something?

'Family first always' absolutely not. Compromise and workable solutions always first.

She's 70. Get a grip.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:10

DappledThings · 31/03/2024 09:04

But this isn't just something the DD fancies doing. It isn't a random cinema trip with her friends or something. It's something she's practised for, already made a commitment to and if she doesn't do will be letting down her team mates.

A birthday meal, when she can be there just after and still be there overnight and for a nice breakfast the next morning so still participating in the birthday weekend doesn't take precedence over not letting down other people she's part of a team with.

If she doesn’t go to the meal she’ll be letting down Granny. We model that family is first, and also the meal was committed to first so should be honoured, but clearly not everyone feels that way.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 31/03/2024 09:08

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:03

'There is no way on earth anyone in our family would be missing my mums 70th, it’s likely your mum will only have one more significant birthday and she deserves to be made a fuss of. '

She isn't missing it. Just going later didn't you read the op?

It isnt entitled to attend an event that the dc is clearly committed to. No need for such angst over a meal when the dd will see everyone later on.

Some folk really put undue importance on birthday meals. It doesn't matter if you miss the chicken nugget part as long you hopefully get to see the vip birthday person at some point.

Edited

I did read the OP 🤣 attending at 9pm would be missing the “meal” i.e. the main part of the event.

”Undue importance” is your opinion, in our family we love celebrating people at birthdays and making sure all members of the family feel valued and important. I know people on mumsnet love to martyr themselves but I think it’s very healthy and important for children to see others being the centre of attention and learning that the entire family doesn’t just revolve around them. Turning up as an afterthought is quite rude to be honest.

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 31/03/2024 09:05

Janiie · 31/03/2024 09:03

'There is no way on earth anyone in our family would be missing my mums 70th, it’s likely your mum will only have one more significant birthday and she deserves to be made a fuss of. '

She isn't missing it. Just going later didn't you read the op?

It isnt entitled to attend an event that the dc is clearly committed to. No need for such angst over a meal when the dd will see everyone later on.

Some folk really put undue importance on birthday meals. It doesn't matter if you miss the chicken nugget part as long you hopefully get to see the vip birthday person at some point.

Edited

Exactly! It's not like there'll be much interaction if DD is sat at the far end of the table anyway. It would just be so grandma could watch her eat from afar. Pointless.

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