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Something needs to be done about drugs in UK

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RegretMisery · 26/03/2024 12:56

Drugs are killing healthy young people. How is it that a drug dealer is not tried as a murderer?

It's not limited to class. It could be your own son or daughter.

You know how many people in Singapore die from overdoses? Almost none, because drugs are actually illegal there.

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WandaWonder · 27/03/2024 08:47

Its choice unless people are addicted from birth it is a choice

Northernsouloldies · 27/03/2024 08:44

It should be tackled from a medical perspective for addicts and not criminal but that will never happen..gotta keep the rabid right wingers happy.

SerendipityJane · 27/03/2024 08:37

Northernsouloldies · 27/03/2024 07:25

And very taxable.Britain isn't going to adopt the death penalty for drug offences.the war on drugs hasn't worked so a new approach is required.

50 years of this nonsense shows that the "new approach" is inevitably the old approach in a different font.

Northernsouloldies · 27/03/2024 07:25

And very taxable.Britain isn't going to adopt the death penalty for drug offences.the war on drugs hasn't worked so a new approach is required.

BlueEyesBrownHair · 27/03/2024 07:22

We need a backbone in this country. There needs to be harsher consequences for dealers/users. Philippines had a good idea to zero tolerance for it and shot any dealers/people caught with any. That would help to stop it

However, if you look at heroin vs alcohol as a drug and the damage it causes, not just to the individual but wider reaching eg family/society, shockingly, alcohol is actually worse than any other drug for destroying family etc. thats legal 🤨

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RegretMisery · 27/03/2024 07:22

HelloMiss · 27/03/2024 05:54

Posters who think stealing steak/high value foods/alcohol to SELL ON. For drugs is 'food poverty'

And those stealing baby milk... usually to sell on. So naive.

people like you are scary ngl

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VestibuleVirgin · 27/03/2024 06:34

RegretMisery · 26/03/2024 13:04

'Harm reduction' centres in Canada have been utterly catastrphophic.

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Please send the peer-reviewed reseach
Thank you

HelloMiss · 27/03/2024 05:54

Posters who think stealing steak/high value foods/alcohol to SELL ON. For drugs is 'food poverty'

And those stealing baby milk... usually to sell on. So naive.

nonevernotever · 27/03/2024 05:51

RegretMisery · 26/03/2024 13:18

NARCAN is a great tool for preventing this. But so many ODs occur when people use them alone and in conjunction with other drugs. I have not been able to obtain any info for if NARCAN works on reversing opioid OD if there are other drugs present.

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I believe it does generally , but doesn't work so well on Nitazines. Even scarier than Fentanyl imo

Northernsouloldies · 27/03/2024 03:47

The war on drugs as most know has been going on for years,Americas fentanyl crisis is self made to a degree,over prescription of opioids then cease, mexican cartels step in to fill the breach.the UK drug problems are bit different,weed,coke heroin fuels most of the gang violence and crimes within society.if heroin was prescribed as harm reduction then women in particular maybe able to make that break from prostitution.as for shoplifting there's a difference between need and slipping items into a bag to violently telling staff you're taking whatever items.

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TuesdayQ · 26/03/2024 23:21

RegretMisery · 26/03/2024 18:26

Don't understand why my person couldn't be saved. I could've stopped it, I could have done something

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I fear I'm going to get blocked for spam if I respond anymore, but I needed to stress that this is not your fault; if you provided love, safety, kindness and warmth, that was all you could have done with the knowledge you had available to you at the time.
You can't punish past you for what she didn't do with the knowledge present you now has: she did not have that knowledge. And nor do most people until they are right up, nose against the grindstone, one way or another.
Please show yourself some kindness.

TuesdayQ · 26/03/2024 23:18

StrongasSixpence · 26/03/2024 15:32

What an excellent idea. Telling people their chosen vice looks stupid always makes them quit.

No one is saying just decriminalise all drugs then leave people to it. That is similar to what Canada have done and its a stupid policy, doomed to failure in the same way as prohibition. What is being advocated for is selected legalisation, control and medicalisation of addiction services with social programmes in support. That is pretty much the only thing with widespread evidence of decreasing drug deaths and social harms caused by addiction.

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Exactly: You only need to look at the US to see the clear harm demonstrated by making 'Just Say No' your main drugs policy.

TuesdayQ · 26/03/2024 23:03

RegretMisery · 26/03/2024 18:26

Don't understand why my person couldn't be saved. I could've stopped it, I could have done something

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If we started treating addiction like a health (and social), rather than criminal issue, that would be a great place to start.

Decriminalisation is also essential. We will never stop people buying drugs, and it is frequently (although not always) someone being mis-sold something believing it to be something its not, that are fatally killed by their addiction.

ilovesooty · 26/03/2024 22:44

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I'm not an addict or a criminal either.

I think I'll treat that unwarranted personal attack with the contempt it deserves.

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/03/2024 22:39

HelloMiss · 26/03/2024 21:42

What's nuts? People stealing food are still vile thieves

Oh my goodness. Sometimes 'morality' goes so far it comes out the other side.

sprigatito · 26/03/2024 22:29

HelloMiss · 26/03/2024 21:42

What's nuts? People stealing food are still vile thieves

They really aren't, surely you must know that. People stealing food/milk/nappies out of sheer desperation are not "vile".

Notmyuser · 26/03/2024 22:22

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So to be an expert on criminal justice or addiction you must be either an addict or a criminal? Good heavens.

HelloMiss · 26/03/2024 21:42

What's nuts? People stealing food are still vile thieves

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RegretMisery · 26/03/2024 20:55

HelloMiss · 26/03/2024 20:08

There was likely part of the story you weren't told op....stealing food, alcohol etc ... to sell on? Could be the 20th shoplifting incident... accompanied by violence? Who knows

And 'seperate a mother and child' .... yes absolutely if it's deserved .

Im a very judgmental person but I don't judge people who steal food from supermarkets, that's kinda nuts

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HelloMiss · 26/03/2024 20:08

There was likely part of the story you weren't told op....stealing food, alcohol etc ... to sell on? Could be the 20th shoplifting incident... accompanied by violence? Who knows

And 'seperate a mother and child' .... yes absolutely if it's deserved .

ilovesooty · 26/03/2024 20:07

RegretMisery · 26/03/2024 19:32

what possible reason could there be to separate a mother and child by imprisoning her unless she was harming that child?

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Not only do you know little about addiction, it seems as though you don't know much about the criminal justice system either.

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