To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

It’s already happening - multiple countries are actively recruiting nhs qualified doctors.

You also won’t see it tangibly in population -600k of taxpayers are high earners that’s ~1% of the population.

last year’s immigration was about that amount.

You’ll see it in the slow degradation of the country. Everything getting worse which is already happening

Totally agree

I'll believe it when I actually see it to be honest.

Also, it’s fine to express dissatisfaction at not getting something without expecting that it’s actually going to be something that changes. Am I mildly annoyed that we paid £3.5k a month childcare? Yes. Do I actually think the government are going to step in and fund any of it? No. Still a bit annoying though.

@SeeYouInMyDreams

for me it's the way when people complain about it, it's as though it's a new thing. Like there hasn't been financial suffering for well forever. The cost of living crisis apparently only started when it affected the middle class.

Also the fact that when the poor complain about being poor they get told they need to work harder, get a better job. The amount of posts about lazy people on benefits. So much judgement.

So tbh I struggle to sympathise for a group who when others struggled they at best looked the other way and at worst judged and sneered.

I am also not a high earner, my husband is a slightly higher than average earner and we absolutely do not vote Tory

There approx 600k high earners ~20% aren’t Uk born if they decide to relocate plus British nationals

as a straw man of my peers it’s not a stretch. But be pedantic… that’ll change the sentiment! 🤷🏽‍♀️

Sure, but that tax is already going on other things. To subsidise more childcare, the government would absolutely expect the public to fund it through more tax.

I have no real say in how my taxes are spent. I have private health insurance and educate my children privately. And we pay over £80k a year in tax. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to hope for some return for the taxes they pay. Especially as we need the childcare in order to be able to be able to do the jobs that enable us to pay so much tax.
It’s irrelevant anyway, as it’s not going to happen. And we’re nearly out of the childcare years. Any additional tax we pay in the future is likely to be ploughed into the gaping hole that is the NHS.

And perhaps had I asked for help sooner I wouldn't be in the mess I am now. Except for all the reasons and prejudice you posted, I didn't.

Proportionately they’ve already paid - 100k salary is 27k income tax and 4K ni. Think for 3 years ~ £80k is enough ubtil school steps in?

Never claimed a single benefit in my life and now I fuxking need it. Yes could be and have been a high earner. What of it? That's why there are criteria that are not morally predetermined. Stupid divisive post.

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Christ. The judgement.

You're in a group chat with every high earner in the country? Wow.

Heaven help us if there is no welfare system. Didn't you learn history at school about life before a welfare system?

I don't have any childcare costs so no skin in the game. But for higher earners to benefit from childcare help who pays for it?

a big portion of this thread should be hoping many of the high earning millennials and gen z don’t do what most of our group chats focus on - moving country.

majority of us for years have been happy to pay in for the greater good but with the highest tax. Burden + student loans most of us are looking for our escape route. Be prepared.

The whole point I'm making though is if you wanted to benefit from it, more funding would be required to sustain that. There's a cut off for a reason.

I said to benefit from some of the childcare support that is currently available to others. You were the only person who mentioned free childcare for all.

Agree, we pay similar and I am fully planning to salary sacrifice both our salaries down as needed when we have children. We’ve paid 100s of k since graduating, barely used the NHS - the least we should get is some childcare support when we have kids

@SeeYouInMyDreams oh I ageee. Threads started in say the money section should be treated respectfully and not allowed to be derailed by "you are so tone deaf"

There was a nice thread a while ago about what higher earning women did for a job and how they got there (and not how their husband did!)

Tons of scope for threads to be helpful about saving tax -and yes I advise people at work around the £100k mark to consider extra pensions payments to avoid it and particularly if have childcare to consider.

Oh I see. Your post said you were unhappy about being excluded for childcare help though? So to make that possible for higher earners it would need funding.

I’m sure lots do understand that. It’s still understandable for anyone to be pissed that their standard of living has decreased, do you expect them to say nothing?

I’m not a high earner but my partner is. We’ve never voted Tory in our lives.

Exactly this - carers, factory workers etc work bloody hard long hours for next to fuck all and are often treated poorly to boot.

I didn’t say I thought we should have free childcare for all, you did.