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To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

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trekking1 · 23/03/2024 17:46

It's always the same condescending "I've worked so hard and only have a 3 bedroom house in a great location and an expensive car", as if 1. that's not a lot 2. people who make 5 times less do not work as hard!

And the suprised pikachu face that having a degree did not magically get them a 500k job. That is not how capitalism works folks

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SeeYouInMyDreams · 23/03/2024 19:25

35965a · 23/03/2024 19:19

That’s what gets me. People on low incomes work really hard, make sacrifices and have stressful jobs too.

If someone on a high income says they work hard, why do you take it that they mean those on lower incomes don’t? I think some people have a chip on their shoulder.

SeeYouInMyDreams · 23/03/2024 19:22

Fizzadora · 23/03/2024 19:10

I get really, really annoyed about people on exceptionally high salaries that are able to stuff loads more money into their pension so that they can get free childcare.
If you do that, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Take it up with the government. It’s not illegal. I don’t think it’s even immoral, it’s just common sense if you look at the figures.

I think a lot of people would feel differently if they seen some actual figures, including the loss of personal allowance starting from £100k, combined with childcare costs. The government should probably look at how it could be done better. I guarantee that if you earned a bit above £100k, you would go the same rather than be thousands of pounds per year worse off. You might say you wouldn’t, but you would.

Skippythebutterfly · 23/03/2024 19:21

Ineedanewsofa · 23/03/2024 18:19

Or maybe it demonstrates that people at all levels of income are pissed off and feel they’ve been sold lies all their lives - so we might actually get the momentum for some meaningful change…

This! You put in effort at all income levels and you don’t get out what you’d parents got for similar efforts. Young adults (under 50-ish) on all income levels feel shafted.

35965a · 23/03/2024 19:19

betterangels · 23/03/2024 18:22

It's the 'I work hard' for me. So do very many people on a low income. Stop it.

That’s what gets me. People on low incomes work really hard, make sacrifices and have stressful jobs too.

blabar · 23/03/2024 19:19

OP, you don't live within MN you know. This forum is not about you! Its not here to pander to your concept of 'normal' or 'acceptable.' If you str expecting that, then you're over-invested. This is the internet! Anyone from anywhere and any walk of life can and will post about anything they like. What else would you expect?

The worst thing on here is the envy about "high earners," "private schools," "SAHMs" and so on. As if people are shocked that such people exist!

Well, they do - look around you - and they have their own questions / problems which are just as valid as yours and they have as much right to post as anyone else.

KateMiskin · 23/03/2024 19:18

There are different types of hard work. And we need them all. Both high earners and low earners.

Krakken · 23/03/2024 19:17

I don't understand why people get offended at 'I worked hard' statement. The most successful people I know did work really hard. They worked hard all through school, got qualifications then worked their way up the ladder.
I wish I'd worked that hard and not just coasted through the education system into my mediocre life.

Scottishskifun · 23/03/2024 19:16

I think it's impossible to walk in someone else's shoes and salary isn't the be all and end all as you don't know someone else's finances, situation especially when you throw the cost of childcare into the mix.

I earn well, my DH does a professional role reasonable salary. He might as well not work our childcare bill is above his take home pay each month but that leads to more difficulties down the line. We live in a 2 bed cottage hardly the life of Riley!

Riverlee · 23/03/2024 19:15

Don’t read them then!

KateMiskin · 23/03/2024 19:13

Prefacing not preaching.

KateMiskin · 23/03/2024 19:12

anythinginapinch · 23/03/2024 18:24

I'm fed up with the seemingly mandatory social requirement now to caveat any comment about positive personal circumstances with "... and I know how lucky I am/im very grateful for what I've got...".

Hear hear! I am so tired of people preaching everything with " I am privileged but".or boring on about " gratutude". Just own it!

SeeYouInMyDreams · 23/03/2024 19:11

*have

Fizzadora · 23/03/2024 19:10

I get really, really annoyed about people on exceptionally high salaries that are able to stuff loads more money into their pension so that they can get free childcare.
If you do that, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Noicant · 23/03/2024 19:09

People have different life experiences, I don’t see why they can’t talk about it. I’m quite interested in how different people live.

SeeYouInMyDreams · 23/03/2024 19:04

I don’t mind some of them. I know people who earn well but have childcare costs of more than £3k with 2 kids. Along with very normal housing costs, food, bills, student loan, you can be on a good wage and not have much or anything left. I’ve seen posters in that situation receiving nasty posts.

Mumsnet is for everyone and I don’t think it’s right that only people with lower incomes can post without getting sarcastic responses.

Obviously if people post saying they feel poor because they can’t afford more diamonds or a third luxury holiday, that’s different, but most of the time that’s not the case. It’s posters who earn well but their money is taken up on high childcare cost and average other costs. People assume that £5k take home goes further than it does but with childcare, it doesn’t add up if you do the math.

No bias from me, I don’t moan about money, don’t have young kids etc, I just think most people has their issues.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 23/03/2024 19:03

It’s all relative.
I’ve been a high earner (well not mn high at £90k) but it drained my soul. I’m now on 40k plus - not long started and it’s a little boring, not quite as exciting as I’d thought but I have more time for DM and DD. I have so much more flexibility. Our mortgage is done, DH is a high earner (again not mn high, just over £100k) but we’re good, happy. I’d like more dogs, but hey ho.

We are older though 46 and 52. I wonder if the £200k plus earners are constantly upgrading things… so chasing that higher salary? I know people that earn waaay more than we do, who work 60 hour weeks- no thank you.

TheFancyPoet · 23/03/2024 19:02

LittleLittleRex · 23/03/2024 18:48

How people "feel" has become so detached from objective reality. We used to actually be things (rich, poor, fat, male, short etc) now we "feel" them as if it isn't a real thing other people experience as life.

We don't realise our comparisons are people in our bubble + the lifestyle that algorithms are trying to sell you - so everyone will always feel a bit shit. Instead of reflecting on why we feel like this, we're told how valid our feelings are not told to get a grip.

the answer right there. When all that matters is now that the fluctuating brain waves of emotional splurges people have are that taken for cemented reality????? - what else do you think is going to happen. Big pharma clapping their hands in delight

TheFancyPoet · 23/03/2024 19:00

Earning much less, living much more comfortably, benefits not involved. It is called : using your brain. End of story

betterangels · 23/03/2024 18:58

KateMiskin · 23/03/2024 18:55

Personally I am far more fed up with people complaining that they haven't got enough inheritance or money from their parents.

This one blows my mind. It's such a different world.

trekking1 · 23/03/2024 18:55

LittleLittleRex · 23/03/2024 18:48

How people "feel" has become so detached from objective reality. We used to actually be things (rich, poor, fat, male, short etc) now we "feel" them as if it isn't a real thing other people experience as life.

We don't realise our comparisons are people in our bubble + the lifestyle that algorithms are trying to sell you - so everyone will always feel a bit shit. Instead of reflecting on why we feel like this, we're told how valid our feelings are not told to get a grip.

Well said. Like that one poster moaning about not being a holiday in years. but having a house and car on finance. She probably sees friends traveling on instagram and feels jealous thinking they have more, when actually they don't, they just made different choices.

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KateMiskin · 23/03/2024 18:55

Personally I am far more fed up with people complaining that they haven't got enough inheritance or money from their parents.

Beezknees · 23/03/2024 18:53

For me, a lot of it comes down to choice.

I earn £24k a year and don't feel poor because I live within my means. I live in a flat rather than a house, I could afford a house if I stretched myself but I don't want to stretch myself and have barely anything left at the end of the month.

Appreciate many people live in expensive areas and have no choice but some people definitely stretch themselves to afford a "better" house. Sometimes you have to accept less if you don't want to struggle.

Also a lot of the moaning is about the cost of nursery fees which is a large amount of money, but is also temporary.

westisbest1982 · 23/03/2024 18:51

InterIgnis · 23/03/2024 18:48

Is it that difficult not to read them then?

Mumsnet isn’t just for those with smaller incomes, and there is no one room that only said group are qualified to define. I find the complaining about it more annoying tbh, as it reads like “how dare you consider your own problems when you should be thinking about ME?”.

Strange take on it.

trekking1 · 23/03/2024 18:50

owlsinthedaylight · 23/03/2024 18:33

You are so right OP. No one should be allowed to complain unless they are homeless and starving.

Oh … wait! 🤔

There is a whole world of difference between homeless and making a lot of money but feeling poor because you spent all of it 😂

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InterIgnis · 23/03/2024 18:48

Is it that difficult not to read them then?

Mumsnet isn’t just for those with smaller incomes, and there is no one room that only said group are qualified to define. I find the complaining about it more annoying tbh, as it reads like “how dare you consider your own problems when you should be thinking about ME?”.

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