To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

You realise people pay tax on income, right?

The £100k earner gets £65k after tax. So after paying for 2 children they would have £25k. Less if they have a student loan.

So no, most people on £100k couldn’t afford 2 kids in private education.

So I guess high earners are allowed call out people who didn't make the same choices and now don't earn as much??
Madness.

Bad decisions? Like what? I live on south coast, near my folks. It’s very expensive and my house is very standard but cost a lot. Most people want to be near family. Also I don’t understand the excessive spending comments. Most high earners (bear in mind that bar is set to £50k plus which is stupid) don’t use private schooling, have multiple foreign holidays or SUVs. I certainly don’t. This is a minority. Most people everywhere are in survival, no luxury mode whether you believe it or not.

The hate for high earners is crazy on MN. It's as if you aren't allowed to have a moan/vent once you get above a certain salary. I'm not a high earner. I'd say I was squeezed middle. Had more spare money on tax credits than I do now lol. I worked my arse off then, as I do now but honestly thought earning more to get off benefits was the right thing to do.
I just think everyone, even high earners, are feeling the increased costs of everything. We need high earners as the tax paid is significant. They are allowed to have a moan too; if it's annoying you don't have to read the threads I guess.

Sure, but then others can call you out for being so egotistical to think that users on a huge and diverse forum are somehow morally obliged to tailor their threads to your liking.

You’re reading, and engaging with, threads that wind you up, yet for some reason you think that’s everyone else’s problem. Instead of expecting others to shut up to spare your delicate feelings, try not clicking on threads you don’t like.

Well perhaps low earners would be better off if they hadn't made such bad decisions? Who gets to decide who is out of touch? What is a high earner anyway?

Ithink doctors are essential and require years of training so need to be paid better to reflect that.
Doesn’t really explain why stupid non essential jobs also pay huge amounts.

I think Covid was the perfect time to see what jobs the country actually needs and what jobs are optional extras.

The reality is many if not most spend according to their income. The more you earn, the bigger commitments you make on that income. I'm certainly not feeling sorry for people who are skint on £200k but I do understand why they feel that way.

I'm the opposite, saving around 70% of our income now as nearing retirement, mortgage paid off.

I've been that person on £12k (equivalent to £20k or so now) with 3 mouths to feed

Agreed

Some people are tone deaf, but almost everyone is seeing a real change in how far their money goes. When you have previously had a good balance with your incoming and outgoing funds, it's noticible. And if you've made financial commitments, worrying.

I can remember a number of years ago being in a situation where I thought I might no longer be able to afford my mortgage, even though my income hadn't changed. Selling the house also seemed unlikely for the same reasons my income wasn't going as far - everyone else was in the same boat. It was scary, the uncertainty in particular.

That's a universal feeling in those kinds of circumstances, it's not only low earners that are allowed to feel that way.

And this is a valid question. Why isn't it? You seriously think MN is your private forum? Just here for you? Hate to break it to you but there are people with more money than you. Lots of them. On MN. And like you, they sometimes want to ask for thoughts on something. These posts are aimed at people who are perhaps in a similar bracket to them. It's not all about you.

@GoodnightAdeline

firstly people on 100k can’t afford private school - unless scrimping for 1 child

Because an average private school in most areas might cost 20K a year - and noone can POSSIBLY like on a mere 80K (or, for that matter, 60K after two children).

I honestly wonder what planet some people on this forum live on sometimes.

And both have the right to express their own issues with their individual circumstances.

Well sometimes. But earnings aren't the whole picture are they?

High earners struggle to afford the things they want but they have a choice.

Low earners struggle to afford the things they need.

I didn’t say being on benefits equals a high paid job amount. I’m saying that the squeezed middle is exactly that. People who earn too much for help but not enough to cover every single outgoing and lead a comfortable life. I know people who earn more working part time with govt top ups than the equivalent of full time. That’s mad. I have the right to moan, as does everyone else. Who made you judge and jury?

So? A lot of people vent for the sake of venting, which has its own benefits.

Why do you need to agree or like it? No one is forcing you to engage.

@trekking1 who is allowed to complain then?

My degrees really did get me high paying jobs.

BS and MS in computer science

My father was a lorry driver, so not exactly rolling in money in my childhood.

It really depends where you live. I'm on £55k and live in rural Somerset. I've paid off my mortgage and I'm careful with money. I feel properly rich.
If I lived in London i'd be skint and living in a shed.

This is how our society is set up - work hard from young, get good grades and you'll have a well paid job and a comfortable life in a comfortable home.
People will feel angry and disappointed if it doesn't pan out like that when they feel they put the effort in.
Some jobs are harder than others. Care work seems really hard to me and pays badly. Being a surgeon is also really hard work and that requires consistent hard work and ability from a very young age. Not many people can do that so of course that should be paid a lot more.

We work hard for what we have