To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

@Scarletttulips

Actually that is the much debunked trickledown economics.

High earners have a higher marginal propensity to save than lower and middle earners, so actually the country does a lot better when low and middle earners are earning more than higher income earners.

Obnoxious?

Those high earners pay for services that pay wages. That’s the base line.

When high earners stop spending, jobs are lost.

We all move down the chain.

Not a good example, because it doesn’t exist. My whole point is that you’re exaggerating to make the issue sound far worse than it is. Stop railing on people for having financial anxiety during a recession.

As MNHQ said on the thread that you tried to link. Everyone has a right to post without name calling - if people can’t start doing that they will ban them.

They don’t need to be ‘in touch’ with you and reflect your reality.

You say they’re obnoxious, yet apparently you can’t stop reading them. Self inflicted problem, that.

Equally, others are allowed to point out that you’re incredibly self absorbed to think this message board has to be tailored to your liking. That you choose to keep clicking on and engaging with threads you know annoy you is entirely your own fault. No one is obliged to stop posting because you can’t help yourself.

Haven't RTFT, apologies.

I feel the exact opposite, OP- I think it would be a shame if people felt they could only ask for help and support with money if they were broke. Actually lots of us could do with advice on money and that includes people who earn a reasonable amount but are struggling to manage it well. And this goes double for people who want to discuss pensions, where so many of us have too little saved- it's really important to be able to talk about it.

I generally feel that our national squeamishness about money is incredibly unhelpful and (especially when it comes to things like pay rises and pensions) disadvantages women in particular who are on average less likely to ask for a pay rise and more likely to be saving too little.

Obviously it would be annoying if someone claimed to be a low earner while being paid a lot but most of the threads I've seen are the opposite- people acknowledging they are well paid but still having trouble managing money.

No, that poster wasn’t complaining she couldn’t have five holidays a year. She travelled 2-3 times a year as her family live abroad and she wants to see them.

She also wasn’t complaining she didn’t have enough. She was saying she felt like others who brought home the same or less seemed to make their money go further. People are allowed to want to get the most out of what they earn.

The thread @MNHQ commented on threatening to ban posters witch hunting the op - which is what you’re now doing?

So you haven’t given any thought to not reading them, then?

seems like a lot of high earners seem to either say horrible things about low earners or be constantly threatening to move overseas and I reckon that’s more what gets peoples backs up than the earnings per se.

also, I get it, we all live in the bubbles we live in but in London especially it’s really easy to have NO IDEA how most of the city lives and think because you’re struggling under mortgage and a holiday and childcare in Crouch End or Wimbledon that everyone in london is better off than you, but actually vast swathes of the city are way, way poorer. They’re just not living the life you live, and neither is most of the country.

Why should I be insulted?

I seem to have missed a bit of the registration which told me whether I could or couldn’t be part of the “audience”.

Was the criteria just related to financial status or where there other criteria I missed? Surely all those people seeking advice on the relationships boards are mocking me as I’m single? How insensitive. Surely people seeking advice on their children are trolling the infertile?

None of us are the main character with everyone else in the “audience”. If a thread is not for you, you don’t have to read it. You definitely don’t need to rage against someone just because you deem them unworthy of advice or support. I’m happy to learn about other people’s lives and experiences which are different to mine.

Where does it say on this public, world-wide forum that only low earners can post? I must have missed it in the rules. Here is an idea - maybe people can stop engaging in threads which don’t concern them to pick a fight. Thankfully MNHQ are clamping down on this as can be seen in the other thread.

The wrong audience can choose not to engage in threads about it then, the same way they ignore other threads about subjects that aren’t relevant to them.

Mumsnet is for people from all walks of life, it isn’t aimed solely at low earners.

YABU. People of all walks of life can have a difficult time, especially right now. Are only the poorest allowed to complain? We're all human. We all have a bad day sometimes and think why have I sacrificed so much for this shitty job and this shitty house. And they post here for advice.

Simple. Find a right audience to complain to. Because your sacrifice will sound like an insult or a joke to someone who didn't even have those things in the first place.

Thought if was 21.5k because our graduates got a pay rise due to it.

YABU. People of all walks of life can have a difficult time, especially right now. Are only the poorest allowed to complain? We're all human. We all have a bad day sometimes and think why have I sacrificed so much for this shitty job and this shitty house. And they post here for advice.

How the fuck can £27k be 'way above' anything? NMW is £22/23k.

But a newly qualified nurse is still on 27k. Way above other normal graduate salaries.

Only 2% of nurses reach band 8!

It's like judging teachers salaries by that of the headteacher of a large secondary school!

The one I saw today about how do I manage in a take home if 8500 a month. Gasp!!!!

then you see they spend over 3500 on holidays and food!!

I don’t understand the intelligence of these people

Yep!

I once replied to a thread where a poster was complaining that they were poor as they only earned about £150k, claimed they could barely afford to live etc. They both changed their cars every three years (top of the range volvos), they had a housekeeper, gardener, nanny and sent most of their washing out, school fees, business class travel, almost exclusively designer clothes. Yet little on me on half the income was doing just fine because I wasn’t wasting money on useless shite. I pointed out that I had a bigger mortgage, did a little SOA to show what could be afforded on my wage (still a very good wage!) at this point they threw a strop and asked MN to pull the thread for being outing.