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To find this very very annoying

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KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 15:36

My DH never confirms plans with anyone. He often doesn't plan anything to start with, but he often keeps things vague until last minute.

This Easter weekend we are 'maybe' going to his parents house (about 3 hours from us so we would be staying overnight). I have other people messaging me saying 'shall we pop over during the long weekend for a wine/coffee' and a couple of other things.

I have asked him to confirm either way with his parents and he says 'yeah, i will' but then never calls them. When I press him he says 'oh well i'm sorry your friends are more important than my family' and 'you see friends all the time'.

I just messaged him and said 'are we going to your parents next Friday' and he replied 'not sure yet, why?'

I feel like tearing my hair out.

AIBU? Uptight?

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AttaThat · 25/03/2024 18:18

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 17:43

He certainly doesn't seem very sorry anymore.

“sorry” was just to get you to beg.

You’re right, it’s a miserable way to live. But you absolutely have the power to change it.

AwBlessm · 25/03/2024 18:11

That's so awful, OP. I would be in shock.

muggart · 25/03/2024 18:10

He thinks his time is more valuable than yours, it's as simple as that.

You have been enabling him because he has trained you to fear his reaction, and in a way you were right because the one time you have pushed for clarity he became abusive.

He's an awful person.

Bobbotgegrinch · 25/03/2024 17:57

WhichEllie · 25/03/2024 17:46

He was never sorry. He just knew he’d crossed a line and wasn’t sure which tactic to use to get you to accept the new line he’s drawn. He pretended to be contrite but that didn’t work, so now he’s back to trying to intimidate you with anger. And make no mistake, it is a new line. Now that he has escalated to shouting abuse at you, he will do it again.

He is abusive, OP. I am so sorry, but it will only get worse.

This.

No man who respects their partner calls them a cunt. He will hit you @KungBooPanda , this is just the lead up to it.

WhichEllie · 25/03/2024 17:46

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 17:43

He certainly doesn't seem very sorry anymore.

He was never sorry. He just knew he’d crossed a line and wasn’t sure which tactic to use to get you to accept the new line he’s drawn. He pretended to be contrite but that didn’t work, so now he’s back to trying to intimidate you with anger. And make no mistake, it is a new line. Now that he has escalated to shouting abuse at you, he will do it again.

He is abusive, OP. I am so sorry, but it will only get worse.

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 17:43

He certainly doesn't seem very sorry anymore.

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AutumnFroglets · 25/03/2024 17:40

My husbands ADHD diagnosis helped me get perspective and set the right kind of boundaries. I have no idea if your husband has ADHD but worth a mention.
@Eskimalita - fuck me, I hope your DH doesn't pass off being abusive as ADHD, or did you not bother reading all her posts?

so i can "sort my head out and i should be down the doctors". I told him he was being horrible and he just shouted at me "you're a stupid fucking cunt" in our garden. he then gave me DS back and has driven off without DS .

H leaving without him meant he missed it ((a special event)) . H actually threw the bonnet on the ground.

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 17:40

@AutumnFroglets I know. Thank u. We have had problems before when I've spoken up about stuff but it's easy to forget. I was genuinely interested to know if it would annoy other people with the lack of planning and if other people had similar with their partners. It doesn't really matter what the latest issue is, but I can see is a pattern that whenever I tell him how i feel about something shit really starts to go wrong.

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KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 17:37

He's home. He came in all sheepish. Asked DS (the one with the bonnet) for a cuddle and DS shouted "no" and ran to me. Then H said "please DS" and DS ran off to play. Then he asked me for a cuddle and I said "no, can we just talk later" and now he's suddenly gone angry again. But this time quiet walking round angrily mode, muttering under his breath, tidying. Such a tense atmosphere. I've put on a film for the kids and just willing to get to bedtime. Its a miserable way to live.

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Eskimalita · 25/03/2024 17:22

You think you’re not being controlled but you are in an indirect way. By taking on all the responsibility but letting him belittle you and do his own thing you are giving him all the control without any accountability.
your husband sounds like he can be emotionally abusive at times.
i lived the same way. My husbands ADHD diagnosis helped me get perspective and set the right kind of boundaries. I have no idea if your husband has ADHD but worth a mention.

Daleksatemyshed · 25/03/2024 17:11

It's often the case on MN, someone starts a thread about something they think is pretty trivial, MN says No, that's wrong, and gradually more and more comes out from the Op. Sometimes @KungBooPanda when you're in the middle of something you can't see the wood for the trees.

AutumnFroglets · 25/03/2024 17:03

I know Flowers

You started this thread complaining that DH was just being annoying, a little vent from you in reasonably safe space. But now its ended up as a completely different beast. Take your time, consider your options, but whatever you do please stop being a pushover and accepting crumbs from your master. Go to counselling (for yourself), request he does his own if you want to save your marriage but in the end, you both have to want the same things - and that includes being equal and being supported.

StructuredColumn · 25/03/2024 16:50

Gosh what a terrible dad and husband. Making out you have a MH issue? Disgusting. And then the Easter bonnet 💔

Horrid man. You need space away from him. He needs to go to his parents alone at Easter.

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 16:45

I know you're right @AutumnFroglets @Ihearyousingingdownthewire @Newestname002 and others. But God - I feel so miserable.

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NoThanksymm · 25/03/2024 16:08

My husband is bad for this too.

so I just started planning. Hey, I know you haven’t bothered (yes bothered or something else like that, acknowledging he’s being a piece of shit for not getting this basic thing done) firming up plans with (whomever) but make sure it’s not this date and time.

and if he comes back with that whinging about his family being important I responding with ‘yes I know and agree, and am always happy to get together. That’s why I’ve been bugging you since (whenever) to make plans with them. We have other people in our lives too that need to plan their lives, so since plans have not been made we are able to plan around that.

anyway. He reconizes it now. And it’s cool with the other plans.

The problem with his family (and his trauma) is that ONLY his sister is the priority. So if he makes plans or arrangements or suggests something it’s ‘oh wonderful- as long as sister doesn’t need us’. Sister is a crazy selfish 40yo child, who sometimes needs (and yes this trumps us, everytime) the grandparents to drive an hour to pick her kid up, drive him 5 mins, then drive the hour home (no visit, no dinner, just do my chore and leave).

anyway. Some families suck. But your husband needs to grow up and make a plan!

Mumaway · 25/03/2024 15:31

Reading this, I wondered if you were also married to my husband. It's just infuriating. Shall we both leave him and run off together into the sunset where firm plans can be made??

Ihearyousingingdownthewire · 25/03/2024 15:26

DS had an Easter parade this morning and me and DS made a bonnet for before bed last night. H leaving without him meant he missed it. H actually threw the bonnet on the ground

Please let this be the straw that breaks the camel‘s back. Please.

This man is a total abusive cunt.

Don’t teach your children that this is what a relationship should look like.

You're married to a total dud of a man. Please save yourself and your children from this. I cannot stress this enough.

AutumnFroglets · 25/03/2024 15:19

Too late to edit. From your previous post -
Worse thing is that he is at his absolute worst round the PIL. He can be pretty selfish at home but when we are there he really bosses me about. MiL fusses over him and he asks me to get and him the kids stuff or makes jokes at my expense which all seem weirdly for MiL benefit. God knows what's going on there.

If you do go then start saying no. Start refusing to be bossed around. Start asking why he's being mean, a twat, unkind, unpleasant etc. Tell him his jokes are not funny. Refuse to be treated like rubbish. Personally, unless it upset the children too much, I would refuse to go.

AutumnFroglets · 25/03/2024 15:00

I don't know what to do about this weekend. The kids are excited to see PIL.

He's already given you an out. Tell him you need time apart to "sort your head out". Use this weekend to confide in friends and find out your financial situation and look up solicitors. Do a one off consultation so you know your rights. You don't have to use that information, but you do need it.

He then said he will take the kids to his parents at the weekend without me so i can "sort my head out and i should be down the doctors".

Pallisers · 25/03/2024 14:04

OP, the thing that struck me is that you have 2 people you can confide in in real life and even without telling them about this latest shocking and nasty incident you know they think you should leave.

On MN we are seeing just one snapshot - and we all think he is a rotten self-centered bastard based on that. Your real friends who see you real life already think your relationship is doomed.

I would not go to the PILs. I would tell them why. Meet your friends. Tell them what is happening. Let him do what he wants. Don't reply to his texts. This will only get worse.

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 14:02

I don't know what to do about this weekend. The kids are excited to see PIL.

he won't go there without me or the kids. So I either go with them all. or we all stay at home, or he takes the kids (which is fine in terms of me being alone over easter - who cares - but doesn't feel good at all the kids being with him without me)

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GinandGingerBeer · 25/03/2024 13:57

He doesn't like forming plans as he doesn't want you to know if you're coming or going. It's worked.
You feel utterly confused now.
The whole dynamic is wrong
The 4 nights at pils was just to keep you in line.
Tell him you're not going.

AutumnFroglets · 25/03/2024 13:31

He just messaged saying "sorry. i love you. i felt you were antagonising me. i'm not good with words like you and i got frustrated and i lost my temper. i'm only happy when we are happy. i really am sorry'.
Of course he's saying this as even he will know he's gone too far and now you are starting to open your eyes. Keep opening them OP, but be prepared to be unpleasantly surprised. Took me twenty five years to see my abusive H and those years physically and mentally broke me.

BTW, he was particularly vicious and nasty since he threw the bonnet on the ground and left his toddler behind. He deliberately hurt his own child twice just to punish you. And all because you asked if you were going away...

YouGotThis24 · 25/03/2024 13:26

This sounds very familiar to me and unfortunately I put up with it for about 7 years. The controlling behaviour will affect you more than you realise. I’d suggest speaking to a counsellor on your own (marriage counselling won’t work as he will try to control you through the counselling sessions too). Create a safe space to work through your feelings and ensure you protect your self-esteem.

I thought I was dealing with the controlling behaviour fine but it’s only looking back I can see how much damage was done from constantly putting my feelings last and tiptoeing around to avoid confrontation.

Write each incident down so you have a record you can reflect on if he tries to downplay his behaviours or rewrite history. If this behaviour continues then don’t leave it 7 years like I did.

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 13:21

No @Couldyounot not at all. I'm feel ashamed and upset that this is my life and what my kids are experiencing. My son clinging to me all morning and crying when H wss shouting feels really grim. I've spent all day playing and cuddling DS and he's back to being his happy self but I know what is going on is unacceptable

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