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To find this very very annoying

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KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 15:36

My DH never confirms plans with anyone. He often doesn't plan anything to start with, but he often keeps things vague until last minute.

This Easter weekend we are 'maybe' going to his parents house (about 3 hours from us so we would be staying overnight). I have other people messaging me saying 'shall we pop over during the long weekend for a wine/coffee' and a couple of other things.

I have asked him to confirm either way with his parents and he says 'yeah, i will' but then never calls them. When I press him he says 'oh well i'm sorry your friends are more important than my family' and 'you see friends all the time'.

I just messaged him and said 'are we going to your parents next Friday' and he replied 'not sure yet, why?'

I feel like tearing my hair out.

AIBU? Uptight?

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KungBooPanda · 27/03/2024 11:16

I am dreading this weekend! I'm so tempted to stay at home because its going to be hell but my kids are so clingy and unsettled all my instincts are to stay close with them

@AutumnFroglets no joint accounts. He doesnt even know who our mortgage is with. I manage all that stuff. I have credit card debt unfortunately but I work full time and am managing. Will sort out the rest 100%. Thank you

Yes @JungsWordTest he is acting so much like a child. All the "can I have a cuddle" and pulling sad faces and slamming doors. It would be laughable if it wasn't so awful.

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JungsWordTest · 27/03/2024 08:24

KungBooPanda · 27/03/2024 07:38

@MrsTerryPratchett your post made me feel sad but was also helpful. I do get it. Just about. This morning DS dropped his milk and H went to pick it up and DS said "no mummy only" and H went "FGS you only ever want your bloody mother". He's now left for work with a slam of the door. He has no awareness his actions are causing this. He's acting like me and DS are ganging up on him! DS is 2!!

I can't believe he is still angry with us after being so awful on Monday morning and even admitting via numerous texts that he was awful and he was sorry. I agree - it seems he was never sorry.

I have fully accepted I need to leave. I'm just trying to work out how it's feasible and what I need to get my ducks in a row as MN says.

It feels quite the awful realisation. Thanks for all being so kind and supportive as I post again and again with yet more awful stuff!

Stand by your DS while he is still able to assert how he feels about this. Children who witness this kind of behaviour long enough will forget what it is to fight back.

JungsWordTest · 27/03/2024 08:22

KungBooPanda · 26/03/2024 08:58

I'm OK. H tried to cuddle me with a weird baby voice but then went quiet and angry again when I said no. By the time I was finished with the kids bedtime, H was playing video games with headset on so I snuck off to bed. He left early this morning. During week it's pretty easy to avoid one another. I just feel really really sad as I don't see how this gets better this time.

Unfortunately, you have married a man who hasn't grown up - so you're essentially dealing with a child. A child in a man's body, which can be horrible. I'm so sorry that you've been so immersed in it that you're only now seeing him for what he is; that must be a shitty wake-up.

AutumnFroglets · 27/03/2024 08:10

Keep posting, even if only to vent or use this thread as a diary.

The ducks are all the necessary documents such as birth and marriage certificates, and passports. Keep those in a safe place such as your parents house.

Then copies of all financial statements for both of you such as how much is left on mortgage, current and joint accounts/savings (P60s if you can), investments, bitcoin, pensions, anything valuable such as bikes and cars. Even if you don't know his pension statement you can find out who they are with and how many if he's changed jobs a few times. Then get on rightmove to see if you can find a similar house yours for approx value. Also go on the benefits checker and cms.

Then call around to find a one off solicitor consultation to find out your rights. Once you know how much you have to "play" with then you can start looking to see if you go down the rental or mortgage route, unless your parents are near and willing to put you up in the meantime.

Remember, just because you do the above doesn't mean it's final. You can take time to get a better job, or work more hours, or try counselling. But please come at it from a position of knowledge and power rather than fear Flowers

KungBooPanda · 27/03/2024 07:38

@MrsTerryPratchett your post made me feel sad but was also helpful. I do get it. Just about. This morning DS dropped his milk and H went to pick it up and DS said "no mummy only" and H went "FGS you only ever want your bloody mother". He's now left for work with a slam of the door. He has no awareness his actions are causing this. He's acting like me and DS are ganging up on him! DS is 2!!

I can't believe he is still angry with us after being so awful on Monday morning and even admitting via numerous texts that he was awful and he was sorry. I agree - it seems he was never sorry.

I have fully accepted I need to leave. I'm just trying to work out how it's feasible and what I need to get my ducks in a row as MN says.

It feels quite the awful realisation. Thanks for all being so kind and supportive as I post again and again with yet more awful stuff!

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echt · 27/03/2024 01:46

I've not read the whole thread but all of @KungBooPanda's updates.

I had the git of a husband nailed as controlling on page 1 I'm sorry to say. Sad
You've had such excellent advice from compassionate posters. All the best, and keep you and children safe first.

DysmalRadius · 27/03/2024 00:29

It really was that bad, and even worse, he showed such lack of care and love for your son. He made your little boy miss out on something he was excited about because he isn't a good enough dad to put him first.

But you are a good enough mum to prioritise your child and do the horrible, hard thing that will make both your lives better. You really are.

Mnetcurious · 26/03/2024 23:13

KungBooPanda · 26/03/2024 18:53

Thank you. I've been in the office today keeping busy. I keep thinking about him shouting "you stupid fucking cunt" in my face while my 2 year old cries. I keep telling myself it wasn't that bad and we all lose our temper but it was scary and horrible and isn't a one off. I'm really really trying to keep my head together and work out next steps.

“It wasn’t that bad”. Please keep reminding yourself it WAS that bad. Talk to those two friends you mentioned, they can help you make plans.

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/03/2024 20:56

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 17:37

He's home. He came in all sheepish. Asked DS (the one with the bonnet) for a cuddle and DS shouted "no" and ran to me. Then H said "please DS" and DS ran off to play. Then he asked me for a cuddle and I said "no, can we just talk later" and now he's suddenly gone angry again. But this time quiet walking round angrily mode, muttering under his breath, tidying. Such a tense atmosphere. I've put on a film for the kids and just willing to get to bedtime. Its a miserable way to live.

Your little boy just modelled good boundaries and excellent decisions. Which means it's not too late. He recognises something bad, and avoids it. He's not appeasing, walking on eggshells or lying to stop his dad right now.

You need to take a leaf from his book. Because if you stay, and forgive this, your little boy will slowly have to appease and lie and walk on eggshells.

And he was never sorry. He's just trying different ways to control you because his usual way stopped working (because MN supported you to change the rules). He's tried; keeping you guessing, being horrible in front of other people, being angry, being babyish, being horrible to your child, being sorry. None is working right now so be extremely careful. These men move to violence sometimes. The throwing the bonnet is entry-level violence (to an object is a first step).

harriethoyle · 26/03/2024 19:39

Unmumsnetty hugs @KungBooPanda you're coping admirably 🌷

KungBooPanda · 26/03/2024 18:53

Thank you. I've been in the office today keeping busy. I keep thinking about him shouting "you stupid fucking cunt" in my face while my 2 year old cries. I keep telling myself it wasn't that bad and we all lose our temper but it was scary and horrible and isn't a one off. I'm really really trying to keep my head together and work out next steps.

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AttaThat · 26/03/2024 13:09

I really think you should call women’s aid OP, or a local domestic abuse charity. I don’t want to sound over the top, but you’re potentially in a dangerous situation. He’s tried his normal tactics, then he tried sorry, then he tried the weird baby voice. But you’ve seen through it and aren’t standing for it, each time he gets angrier and that’s the point at which a large number of men resort to violence.

Couldyounot · 26/03/2024 09:27

Bless you OP. I hope you and the kids can get free of this irredeemable oaf soon 😔

KungBooPanda · 26/03/2024 08:58

I'm OK. H tried to cuddle me with a weird baby voice but then went quiet and angry again when I said no. By the time I was finished with the kids bedtime, H was playing video games with headset on so I snuck off to bed. He left early this morning. During week it's pretty easy to avoid one another. I just feel really really sad as I don't see how this gets better this time.

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QuizNight · 26/03/2024 08:51

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 08:28

I feel sick. Shouting "you stupid fucking cunt" at me while DS is in my arms is a new low. I'm shaking. Trying to jolly kids for school.

He suggested the doctors, insinuating that there’s something wrong and you need help. I would respond by telling him that you want marriage counselling or you are out of there. If he refuses then I’d be off.

WhatNoRaisins · 26/03/2024 06:07

I hope your ok OP, this is obviously a difficult situation.

MsRosley · 26/03/2024 00:14

Your DH is a horrible bully. I hope you're okay, OP.

muggart · 25/03/2024 21:34

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 19:16

I feel so knackered. My younger DS fell asleep in my arms on the sofa unusually. Just battling the other one into bed and then taking myself to the spare room with a book. Thanks everyone.

Is he not parenting tonight because he's pissed off at you and punishing you?

He seems very manipulative. I hope you can see this behavior clearly.

ladycardamom · 25/03/2024 21:14

KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 17:11

i can't win you know. we have a calander system online @TrustyRusty68 after a few arguments about this stuff - so i put stuff i'm doing in his calander like work drinks and so on. last week i put a few things in and he started questioning when they went in and saying 'i see you're sneaking things in the diary again' - i was like 'how am i sneaking things in, i'm just sending you the things' and he said i was trying to get stuff past him. its all baffling

That is a very odd thing for him to say. Along with you and his parents walking on egg shells and not pushing for answers so as not to upset him. Hmmmm.

goingdownfighting · 25/03/2024 19:36

It seems that he has seen his father get away with behaving like this and your mother accepting it so he expects the same from you.

Therefore I wouldn't expect his parents to help him understand how his behaviour, particularly about being able to do what he likes when he likes.

goingdownfighting · 25/03/2024 19:33

I'm so sorry things have escalated in this way.

I suggest that he goes to his parents with or without the kids.

That will give you time and space to let things settle in your mind and for him to reflect also.

Also use this opportunity to tell him exactly how he's making you feel so that he is fully aware of the impact of his behaviour.

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 25/03/2024 19:20

Have you got a rubber door stop to jam your bedroom door shut op? I can imagine he won't take you sleeping there well.

KungBooPanda · 25/03/2024 19:16

I feel so knackered. My younger DS fell asleep in my arms on the sofa unusually. Just battling the other one into bed and then taking myself to the spare room with a book. Thanks everyone.

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slippedonabanana · 25/03/2024 18:25

He's in a rage because you aren't going along with his new method of training you to be completely subservient to all his whims. His only intention is to make you afraid to question his plans in future, and to prevent you from making any plans of your own.

I'd have spent part of today looking at how finances would work if separated.

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 25/03/2024 18:19

I'm sorry to read your updates.
He's let the mask slip and you've seen the real him. The one he usually hides behind his gaslighting of you.
The verbal abuse this morning, in front of the children, in public, is unexcuseable. He's also blamed you for antagonising him. So it's your fault that he verbally abused you, threw your poor child's Easter bonnet on the floor etc etc. He probably thinks you've 'turned the child against him' with the refusal to hug him.
I would be making a plan to leave. Very soon. Before his verbal abuse becomes physical beyond throwing a child's hat on the ground. Please contact women's aid for advice.