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To find this very very annoying

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KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 15:36

My DH never confirms plans with anyone. He often doesn't plan anything to start with, but he often keeps things vague until last minute.

This Easter weekend we are 'maybe' going to his parents house (about 3 hours from us so we would be staying overnight). I have other people messaging me saying 'shall we pop over during the long weekend for a wine/coffee' and a couple of other things.

I have asked him to confirm either way with his parents and he says 'yeah, i will' but then never calls them. When I press him he says 'oh well i'm sorry your friends are more important than my family' and 'you see friends all the time'.

I just messaged him and said 'are we going to your parents next Friday' and he replied 'not sure yet, why?'

I feel like tearing my hair out.

AIBU? Uptight?

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BirthdayRainbow · 22/03/2024 19:15

KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 17:11

i can't win you know. we have a calander system online @TrustyRusty68 after a few arguments about this stuff - so i put stuff i'm doing in his calander like work drinks and so on. last week i put a few things in and he started questioning when they went in and saying 'i see you're sneaking things in the diary again' - i was like 'how am i sneaking things in, i'm just sending you the things' and he said i was trying to get stuff past him. its all baffling

Sneaking because you didn't discuss it with him eleventy billion times before you put it in the diary....

littlebopeepp234 · 22/03/2024 19:10

Op why are you putting up with this shit. Even worse why are you messaging him to ask him to give you an answer. If HE can’t take the initiative to let you know then reply to the other people and tell them it’s fine if they pop round for a drink (if you want them to). If he doesn’t like it then tough!

He knows he’s taking the piss and keeping you on a shoe string. What a load of passive aggressive game playing shit!

You can’t put your whole life on hold while he dithers! I couldn’t even be with someone like him, think I would have had to leave him by now.

Daleksatemyshed · 22/03/2024 19:04

There was something about the words "sneaking things into the diary " that really annoyed me Op. You're not a child, you're not sneaking, how dare he suggest anything he wants is OK but you making a decision to go somewhere is sneaking? Does he expect you to run everything past him first? Actually, that exactly what he means, if you make an appointment without his say so that's not on, you should sit around waiting for him to deceide where you're both going even though he can't make his mind up. Has he always been like this or is it a recent thing?

LoobyDop · 22/03/2024 18:50

Either he just wants to keep his own options open so he can do whatever he fancies at the time, and fuck everyone else, or it’s strategic incompetence so you take over the family admin like a good little wife should. Either way, he’s being a dick and you should stop waiting for him.

Mamette · 22/03/2024 18:43

he will be totally fucked off with me though.

The reason he chooses (it is a choice) to mess you around like this is because he knows you are afraid of upsetting him.

Practice upsetting him! Take his power away. Do your own thing and let him deal with it.

NoSquirrels · 22/03/2024 18:37

KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 17:11

i can't win you know. we have a calander system online @TrustyRusty68 after a few arguments about this stuff - so i put stuff i'm doing in his calander like work drinks and so on. last week i put a few things in and he started questioning when they went in and saying 'i see you're sneaking things in the diary again' - i was like 'how am i sneaking things in, i'm just sending you the things' and he said i was trying to get stuff past him. its all baffling

He sounds like a twat. Is he? One of those blokes unable to cope with anyone else having a claim on his time - ‘don’t try and control me’ etc?

This would be high on the list of Solve This Problem or End Up Divorced behaviours for me.

theleafandnotthetree · 22/03/2024 18:36

I had one of those, I'm getting a pain in my chest thinking back on the stress his approach used to cause me. But he got to present all bright and breezy and me as uptight - it absolutely is a form of control and a very insidious and sneaky one. Instead of laying down the law, he creates the situation where you are made to look like you are doing so in the absence of decision-making and collaboration. I bet he is also a faffer 🙄. I left my husband and this kind of shit was the main reason, it is NOT trivial, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

FictionalCharacter · 22/03/2024 18:36

Needmorelego · 22/03/2024 18:19

@Bingowingo1 I only have a daughter.
Don't see the problem though of communicating with my mother in law. I actually like her - which I know is against Mumsnet rules 😂

I like mine too, but some people aren’t lucky enough to have nice MILs.

FictionalCharacter · 22/03/2024 18:34

you see friends all the time

Consciously or not, he’s messing you around because he doesn’t like you seeing your friends.

p1ppyL0ngstocking · 22/03/2024 18:29

Shared calendar is the way forward.

Anything on the calendar happens, if it's not on the calendar it doesn't happen.

Whoever puts their event in first gets to do it.

This does need to be managed with respect; so neither party just blocks out weeks of time to do what they like whilst the other has sole childcare responsibilities for example, but it certainly focuses the mind on what is and isn't important and firming up plans.

LovelyTheresa · 22/03/2024 18:23

Do you want to see his parents? If you don't, don't go. His circus, his monkeys.

Needmorelego · 22/03/2024 18:19

@Bingowingo1 I only have a daughter.
Don't see the problem though of communicating with my mother in law. I actually like her - which I know is against Mumsnet rules 😂

Loopytiles · 22/03/2024 18:18

So he’s shitty to his family, and you.

BrendaSmall · 22/03/2024 18:18

It’s either a yes or no!
As you’re being so indecisive I’ve made my own plans, would be my reply!

AwBlessm · 22/03/2024 18:16

Sounds very frustrating, OP. Especially putting you in a situation where you need to 'nag' just to get basic information. Hope you have a nice Easter weekend!

DysmalRadius · 22/03/2024 18:15

KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 15:54

@Bjorkdidit one of the things is a playdate for DS. but you're right -he can go to his parents with the kids without me if necessary. he will be totally fucked off with me though.

Does he worry about you being fucked off with him for making you miss out on stuff? Does he ever worry about how you will react to his failure to manage the basics?

SmileyClare · 22/03/2024 18:14

I’d hazard a guess that he’s able to book work meetings, doctors appointments, haircuts without faffing and being vague until the day. Hmm

So why does he act like this with you?

Answer:
this is a power/ control thing (you can’t schedule any dates in the diary without consulting him and he’ll “block” it) 🚩

Emotional manipulation (oh your friends are more important than me etc) 🚩

Coercive control (you walk on eggshells and are careful with your words/actions to avoid his moods) 🚩

I think this is more than him being an annoying man who makes you roll your eyes because he’s ‘disorganised”.

hobocock · 22/03/2024 18:03

I wouldn't be putting up with that at all. I'd also give him a set deadline to confirm the plans and if they were then not confirmed at that point I would go ahead and make my own plans. He can then go to see his parents on his own.
Pathetic.

Bingowingo1 · 22/03/2024 17:57

Needmorelego · 22/03/2024 17:52

I would have messaged my in-laws myself to find out if they were expecting us.
I'd prefer a 5 minute chat with my mother in law than all this faffing about.

Ughghgh! Hope you aren't modelling this to any sons you might have

Patrickiscrazy · 22/03/2024 17:57

Devon23 · 22/03/2024 16:34

Sounds like he is jealous of you having friends- trying to control you. If there are other red flags I'd be planning my escape.

Nah, I don't think that's it.
I think he's just not capable or willing to commit, even to a decision.
He'd be better off single, and OP even more, without the need to bloody manage him and suffer him "getting mad".

Teapot1980 · 22/03/2024 17:56

KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 17:11

i can't win you know. we have a calander system online @TrustyRusty68 after a few arguments about this stuff - so i put stuff i'm doing in his calander like work drinks and so on. last week i put a few things in and he started questioning when they went in and saying 'i see you're sneaking things in the diary again' - i was like 'how am i sneaking things in, i'm just sending you the things' and he said i was trying to get stuff past him. its all baffling

This is worryingly controlling, I’m afraid OP. Not just disorganisation. He clearly doesn’t want you to have plans of your own, and expects you to wait on him to decide what you’re both doing until he feels like telling you :(

Needmorelego · 22/03/2024 17:52

I would have messaged my in-laws myself to find out if they were expecting us.
I'd prefer a 5 minute chat with my mother in law than all this faffing about.

Mostlyoblivious · 22/03/2024 17:50

KungBooPanda · 22/03/2024 17:11

i can't win you know. we have a calander system online @TrustyRusty68 after a few arguments about this stuff - so i put stuff i'm doing in his calander like work drinks and so on. last week i put a few things in and he started questioning when they went in and saying 'i see you're sneaking things in the diary again' - i was like 'how am i sneaking things in, i'm just sending you the things' and he said i was trying to get stuff past him. its all baffling

I was initially going to suggest ND however seeing that he has said you were trying to get stuff past him implies to me it’s deliberate and is control and not executive dysfunction

AutumnFroglets · 22/03/2024 17:46

I just messaged him and said 'are we going to your parents next Friday' and he replied 'not sure yet, why?'
At this point I would start assuming DH is trying to play the headfuk games with me deliberately. He is trying to unsettle you and make you walk on eggshells. That's not nice of him. From the little you have written i think it might be beneficial to read up about emotional abuse.

It’s difficult to feel sure of yourself when a partner is demeaning, dismissing, and second-guessing you constantly. Additionally, when you care about someone and have invested time in the relationship with them, you want to believe the best of them, and you may convince yourself that you were overreacting in how you interpreted their hurtful actions or words. An emotionally abusive partner may try to gaslight you by telling you outright that you are overreacting, being dramatic, being too emotional, or that you can’t take a joke.
https://www.thehotline.org/resources/what-is-emotional-abuse/

Bluegray2 · 22/03/2024 17:46

Say you want confirmation by tomorrow evening at the latest as you want to confirm alternative plans if you are not