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fantalimon23 · 22/03/2024 08:14

I know this will attract judgement but I'm not asking for criticism, just discussion.

Never been a smoker but recently took up vaping. Dh does it and so do a few friends. I was curious. We are going through a very stressful time in life - young dc and no help, demanding job, house renovation. I was winding down in the evenings using booze and junk food which wasn't good for me either so I suppose I just wanted to try something that helped relax me. I do enjoy it but I don't think I'm 'addicted' per se, for example I don't take it out with me during the day and don't miss it. I just use it in the evenings.

Anyway bizarrely I have health anxiety which is quite ridiculous when I think of all of the unhealthy habits and coping mechanisms I have. But I do worry about the vape. There is so much conflicting info out there - loads of sources saying it's much better than smoking others saying it's as bad or worse. All the alleged health issues they can cause but no definitive studies as they've not been around long enough.

So I guess I'm wondering if you vape, why? What does it bring you? And do you worry about the health impact?

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Whytoodee · 26/03/2024 01:35

No because even others vaping near me triggers my asthma. And so many people do it every half a minute. I notice because it effects me. Some people are so addicted and attached to the vape ... More permanently than I ever saw anyone with cigarettes. Being able to get a hit more frequently must balance out it being less harmful than smoking.

And less harmful does not mean harmless. It's like saying swimming with one shark is less harmful than swimming with two.

Sorry for going off on one. I know you're not that addicted but I think they're bad. Long term effects take a long tine to study. Studies are already showing DNA changes that could cause cancer (could because more time is needed to see).

Smoking was deemed safe for so long

I think they should only be available on prescription to quit smoking

Eddy0987654321 · 26/03/2024 01:00

Nanny0gg · 25/03/2024 17:52

It's all over the news and they're in the shops

And it is very deliberately targeted. They, on the whole, come from China and there is little to no safety regulation

Which is why the Govt want to ban them

And yet another post with misinformation. Many vape products are from U.K. companies. Many fluids are uk manufacturers.

Nanny0gg · 25/03/2024 17:55

cherrydrop22 · 25/03/2024 16:03

Thanks for pointing this out. Very relevant to the thread. I NC multiple times a week. Fairly normal behaviour here I believe.

Surely the health issues surrounding vaping remain the same regardless of whether or not you were previously a smoker. Obviously it's better than smoking. Obviously it's worse than not smoking and not vaping. But that doesn't change the facts on the article I posted.

I'm not advocating it. I know it was a silly thing to start doing. But I wish people could engage in conversations without being so bloody rude and condescending.

I suppose I don't understand how someone with health anxiety starts something that's only going to make that worse.

Thereby adding to the stress.

Nanny0gg · 25/03/2024 17:52

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 23/03/2024 14:37

You'd think I'd have seen some of this marketing then.

It's all over the news and they're in the shops

And it is very deliberately targeted. They, on the whole, come from China and there is little to no safety regulation

Which is why the Govt want to ban them

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Thanks for pointing this out. Very relevant to the thread. I NC multiple times a week. Fairly normal behaviour here I believe.

Surely the health issues surrounding vaping remain the same regardless of whether or not you were previously a smoker. Obviously it's better than smoking. Obviously it's worse than not smoking and not vaping. But that doesn't change the facts on the article I posted.

I'm not advocating it. I know it was a silly thing to start doing. But I wish people could engage in conversations without being so bloody rude and condescending.

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Do you struggle with reading comprehension? Could you point out exactly where I've said that? If anything I've repeatedly said I know it's unhealthy.

If you're going to criticise at least read my posts properly first.

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tabulahrasa · 25/03/2024 14:06

I vape because I was a smoker, everything seems to indicate that it’s less harmful than smoking and it’s a lot cheaper.

But less harmful than smoking is a pretty low bar tbh, it’s still a load of chemicals going into your lungs and nicotine is very addictive.

For me vaping is better than the 20+ cigarettes a day I was smoking... but for someone who isn’t a smoker it does seem like a strange thing to start up as an adult.

fantalimon23 · 25/03/2024 13:52

By all means mock me, it says more about you than me. I asked for a discussion but sadly many people seem unable to manage that without becoming patronising, sarcastic or insulting simply because they have a different opinion.

It isn't a cop out to say life is stressful. And yes it's a choice. I made a choice to take up an unhealthy habit just like people do when they decide to drink alcohol, eat a McDonald's, smoke a cigarette. It's a coping mechanism, not a particularly clever one but it does relax me.

This article from the NHS explains quite a bit:

www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/

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broccoliforever81 · 25/03/2024 12:01

beliefbelieve · 25/03/2024 05:56

the good news Op is that you seem to have well and truly recovered from your “health anxiety”!!

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Eddy0987654321 · 25/03/2024 08:24

Containerhome · 23/03/2024 15:17

Really we shouldn't be inhaling anything other than oxygen. If you think vaping is safe then I think you are telling yourself that to make doing it 'OK for you'. It's jot the case. As it's not a serious habit, it might be a good time to stop. Especially if you have health anxiety.

I’m sure you meant air but I get your point.

lallaland123 · 25/03/2024 06:46

Thanks for this thread OP , after reading most of comments i haven't vaped ( and i had no intention to stop !)

can't believe i started this terrible habit on first place , never again

beliefbelieve · 25/03/2024 05:56

the good news Op is that you seem to have well and truly recovered from your “health anxiety”!!

beliefbelieve · 25/03/2024 05:53

Young children plus taking up an addictive substance that is increasingly and widely publicised as having serious health concerns? Surely you want to be as healthy as possible for your family? surely you want to set a good example? I could understand if it was a pre existing addiction to children but to start up randomly one night whilst your children are sleeping…. well i don’t really have the word for it but essentially WTF?

Beezknees · 24/03/2024 11:08

Nope, never vaped or smoked. Completely up to you what you do but I do think the "stressful life" excuse is so lame and a cop out. Just own your choices.

Eddy0987654321 · 24/03/2024 11:00

Tsulsaquoola · 23/03/2024 21:59

And there we have it. "If you want to vape do so. Other people's opinions are completely irrelevant."

I gave up smoking when I found out I was pregnant with my first child. He's 25 now. My dh tried. And failed. And tried. And failed again.

So now he vapes. He's more addicted to the vape than he ever was to smoking. He doesn't limit it at all - he vapes constantly: in the house, in the car, in bed, while I'm eating.

I fucking hate it. At least with smoking he had some awareness it was unpleasant and anti-social. It is literally the first thing he reaches for when he wakes and the last thing he does before he falls asleep.

If I object I'm told "it's just water vapour".

I actually think this might turn into as big a public health crisis as smoking.

The risks of the vapour are negligible with any contents dispersing to nothing over 50cm of the source.
Due to the research in the harm caused by Chemicals involved in smoking harm from vaping can be extrapolated from these. Just as in the latest research they wouldn’t know what to look for without the history from smoking.
Of course it won’t be harm free and the plethora of flavours might make analysis of their risks difficult but the constituent parts are minimal and known.

Tsulsaquoola · 23/03/2024 21:59

And there we have it. "If you want to vape do so. Other people's opinions are completely irrelevant."

I gave up smoking when I found out I was pregnant with my first child. He's 25 now. My dh tried. And failed. And tried. And failed again.

So now he vapes. He's more addicted to the vape than he ever was to smoking. He doesn't limit it at all - he vapes constantly: in the house, in the car, in bed, while I'm eating.

I fucking hate it. At least with smoking he had some awareness it was unpleasant and anti-social. It is literally the first thing he reaches for when he wakes and the last thing he does before he falls asleep.

If I object I'm told "it's just water vapour".

I actually think this might turn into as big a public health crisis as smoking.

ViaMargutta · 23/03/2024 19:59

Yes, I vape. Smoked for about 20 years before. My brother introduced me to vaping, I liked it, so swapped cigarettes for a vape. Why do I vape? Because I'm addicted to nicotine, I like vaping and don't give particular shit about my health. We'll all die someday, so meh.

I vape inside my house, inside my parents house, and in all of my friends houses. None of them mind. Some of them are smokers, some of them vape, some do neither. Tbh, I never met such dramatic people in reality, banging on about 'the stench', only here. It smells of strawberries and the like, ffs, not a latrine. But to be fair, judging by multiple threads on MN, people on here start 'gagging' if they smell someone's washing liquid, colleagues perfume makes them suffocate, some of them can even smell when other women have their periods, due to their use of bog-standard always pads (I shit you not). Because 'all those stinky chemicals!'. As I have no penchant for drama and (apparently) a shit nose - I vape wherever I want to and don't mind others vaping or smoking.

I also vape when out and about and in all hotel rooms. If someone doesn't like it - they're most welcome to come and say it to my face. Never happened, funnily enough. They're probably 'don't like to make a fuss' - spineless, in other words.

If you want to vape - do so. Other people's opinions are completely irrelevant.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 23/03/2024 18:47

Good luck to you, MagentaRocks, it's not an easy addiction to conquer but it is doable. As I said, for me the 24 hours and you're clear of nicotine, was a huge help.

You'll do it.

MagentaRocks · 23/03/2024 18:36

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 23/03/2024 14:27

That's ok, I can believe that many vape users wouldn't believe that vape manufacturers are dumb enough to deliberately market to school children. It suits the narrative to be dumb but, it's not the manufacturers guilty of that.

Big Tobacco. Heard of that? They are the tobacco companies and they are losing cigarette and pipe smokers in absolute droves. That's due to deaths (old age or illness), government intervention by restricting access - leading to supermarkets tightening up selling practices, advertising and many other actions.

Those are the companies behind vapes. Gotta keep their punters... at any cost.

OneTC probably could answer this better but vapes can be bought and used without nicotine. Ex-smokers would probably want the nicotine liquid but who then is buying the vapes without the nicotine, and why?

I am cutting down on the nicotine level and will use zero nicotine for a bit before stopping. I am planning on using some with and some without nicotine as I drop down. It should help me stop totally.

MustBeGinOclock · 23/03/2024 17:51

People walking around with these things perma attached to their faces. Another poster had it spot on..adult dummy equivalent. It really looks so unattractive. The truth is not enough research yet but so far not looking good.

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