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fantalimon23 · 22/03/2024 08:14

I know this will attract judgement but I'm not asking for criticism, just discussion.

Never been a smoker but recently took up vaping. Dh does it and so do a few friends. I was curious. We are going through a very stressful time in life - young dc and no help, demanding job, house renovation. I was winding down in the evenings using booze and junk food which wasn't good for me either so I suppose I just wanted to try something that helped relax me. I do enjoy it but I don't think I'm 'addicted' per se, for example I don't take it out with me during the day and don't miss it. I just use it in the evenings.

Anyway bizarrely I have health anxiety which is quite ridiculous when I think of all of the unhealthy habits and coping mechanisms I have. But I do worry about the vape. There is so much conflicting info out there - loads of sources saying it's much better than smoking others saying it's as bad or worse. All the alleged health issues they can cause but no definitive studies as they've not been around long enough.

So I guess I'm wondering if you vape, why? What does it bring you? And do you worry about the health impact?

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lollydu · 22/03/2024 10:59

I mean it's better than smoking but it's still not good is it?

It's sad as vaping used to be a good substitute for people that wanted to give up smoking and that's all it was, but now it's a thing in its own right and really we are in the same spot with it that we were with cigarettes all those years ago - they're too new to really know the impact yet!

I'm not worried about my teenager taking up smoking now but I am worried about vaping!

It does confuse me though why anyone would take up the habit unless they were an ex smoker using it to give up?

If I were you I would give it up - it's a vice at the end of the day and we don't know enough about the long term effects for anyone to say to you - it's fine you should just carry on

SpeedyDrama · 22/03/2024 10:59

HungryBeagle · 22/03/2024 10:57

This was in my daughter’s copy of The Week Junior this week…

I would love to know how they knew one of these vapes was unused…

SpeedyDrama · 22/03/2024 10:58

Lincslady53 · 22/03/2024 10:45

This might help make your mind up. Jordan North: The Truth About Vaping: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001xj1p via @bbciplayer

Some pseudo journalist on BBC3 making sad faces interviewing people who may or may not have got sick from vaping isn’t exactly the height of scientific integrity. The truth is anything containing nicotine is going to be harmful to you, but as an adult everyone will make their individual choices about how they treat their own body or the world around them.

HungryBeagle · 22/03/2024 10:57

This was in my daughter’s copy of The Week Junior this week…

Do you vape?
Waitingfordoggo · 22/03/2024 10:43

MumHereAgain2023 · 22/03/2024 10:16

It's not though :(

It’s not what? Better than smoking?

When people say it’s ’better than smoking’ they usually mean ‘it’s less harmful’.

Do you have evidence that vaping is equally as harmful as smoking? If so, please share (I don’t think any such evidence exists- at least not yet).

fantalimon23 · 22/03/2024 10:41

I do agree that it was a silly move to start vaping as a non smoker. I wish I was someone who could cope with the stresses of life without having to turn to some sort of substance be it vapes, wine or chocolate. But I am mindful of the fact that I don't want to do this forever and although I'm not naive enough to think it won't become addictive, I'm trying to keep my usage down and set boundaries - I.e. not taking it outside with me or using it during the day.

I do worry about health, a lot. I guess I'm sadly just not the sort of person who finds stress relief from exercise or meditation.

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lallaland123 · 22/03/2024 10:40

fromtheshires · 22/03/2024 10:36

@lallaland123 thats just insane that it would be touted as a way to feel less hungry. Ive heard unhinged things at weight loss clubs (ive done them myself) but if id have been there when i heard that drivel i think id have walked out and complained!

it was a year ago , i'm not on this weight loss plan any longer but now i vape as obviously got addicted.

I will quit , actually reading this thread made me want to throw all my vapes away and go cold turkey .

I have only myself to blame for my stupidity and being easily influenced .

Hope i can quit , i used to be so judgmental towards people who smoke but now i am one of them :(

NC03 · 22/03/2024 10:37

@MumHereAgain2023 yes, it is better than smoking
If we keep telling people it isn't then people will keep smoking and not switch to vaping which will massively improve their health
There has been thread after thread on this and all you have to do is google public health England vaping or cancer research and vaping and not read the stories about popcorn lung (debunked, chemical banned in U.K.) or the people vaping vitamin e or random shit

fromtheshires · 22/03/2024 10:36

@lallaland123 thats just insane that it would be touted as a way to feel less hungry. Ive heard unhinged things at weight loss clubs (ive done them myself) but if id have been there when i heard that drivel i think id have walked out and complained!

DillDanding · 22/03/2024 10:23

A non-smoker starting to vape is just bonkers imo. There is emerging evidence that vaping is more dangerous than we thought.

My colleague vapes. He goes outside to do it, but he brings the stink back in with him. If we are in the office for a day, by the afternoon it reeks of that disgusting, cloying sweet smell. Yuck.

Keepithidden · 22/03/2024 10:23

Yes I do, I tried numerous NRTs to give up smoking after twenty years commited. Nothing worked until vapes came along, I've now not had tobacco for six years.

All research points towards well regulated vapes being far healthier than smoking. The knock-off market is a whole other ball game though.

The type of vape is also relevant I think, I sometimes use the cloud buster variant which is fun! But needs to be done away from grumpy people, lower wattage ones are fine for day-to-day use though.

There's been no downside from my perspective.

GameOfJones · 22/03/2024 10:18

Yes I do.

It's bloody awful. Admittedly, I used to smoke and it is so much better than that but I have found it much harder to quit vaping than I ever did with quitting cigarettes. Because I don't have the horrible cough and don't stink of fags. But realistically it's just another bad habit.

Taking vaping up as a non-smoker is madness. I do have sympathy as I know how addictive they are once you start.

MumHereAgain2023 · 22/03/2024 10:16

PiggieWig · 22/03/2024 08:25

I do, because it’s better than smoking which was a previous habit. But I’d like to stop. It’s hideously addictive - way more than cigs, expensive and I feel like a knob. I’m working out my next move and when and how to commit.

It's not though :(

Tagyoureit · 22/03/2024 10:15

I used to smoke for about 25 years, miss it occasionally but I would never vape! God knows what's in the horrible smelly chemicals! As stupid as that sounds, at least we know the long term health effects of cigarettes, we don't know that about vapes.

But I'm glad I finally gave up smoking, the cost of cigarettes is ridiculous these days!!

SwingTheMonkey · 22/03/2024 10:15

GoodlifeGlow · 22/03/2024 10:11

Hmm inhaling chemicals into our lungs which then get circulated around our body, ending up goodness knows where, brain cells perhaps?

You’d have to be chronically stupid to vape/smoke.

You’ve got one body look after it.

You’d have to be chronically stupid to vape/smoke.

I agree. Particularly those who have taken it up for funsies when they’ve never smoked a cigarette. And the lengths vapers will go to to argue it’s not a nasty anti social habit…

GoodlifeGlow · 22/03/2024 10:11

Hmm inhaling chemicals into our lungs which then get circulated around our body, ending up goodness knows where, brain cells perhaps?

You’d have to be chronically stupid to vape/smoke.

You’ve got one body look after it.

HungryBeagle · 22/03/2024 10:08

fantalimon23 · 22/03/2024 10:03

The comments about the looking stupid, being antisocial etc are irrelevant to me because as I said, it's not something I do outside of the house. In the evenings when the kids are in bed I will have it in the living room while watching tv. It relaxes me in the same way a glass of wine would and I actually find I'm drinking less now.

But yeah I agree there are probably healthier ways to unwind.

To be fair to you there are probably also less healthy (or equally as bad) ways to unwind, such as replacing the vapes with alcohol. It depends on what level of risk to your health you’re comfortable with I guess.

tiggersfamily · 22/03/2024 10:08

I do, I used to worry about it but then 2 of the most healthy people I know, who eat healthily, don't even drink never mind smoke, vape etc got diagnosed with stage 4 cancer so that gave me some perspective. For me right now, the positives are outweighing the negatives. And I know I'll stop when I next get pregnant so there's that!
If you're going to do it you may as well enjoy it, otherwise you might as well stop

crumblingschools · 22/03/2024 10:06

@SpeedyDrama there is no duty on vapes -yet

SlowlyLurking · 22/03/2024 10:06

I used h a to quit cigarettes and then quit the vape when I fell pregnant. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done - they are SO addictive & you barely realise it until it's gone.

I wouldn't vape again. I would rather have a social cigarette with a glass of wine than a vape. It's only now after giving up that I realised it kind of made my lungs feel heavy and thick. It can't be good for you, even if it's better than cigarettes in the long run.

fantalimon23 · 22/03/2024 10:03

The comments about the looking stupid, being antisocial etc are irrelevant to me because as I said, it's not something I do outside of the house. In the evenings when the kids are in bed I will have it in the living room while watching tv. It relaxes me in the same way a glass of wine would and I actually find I'm drinking less now.

But yeah I agree there are probably healthier ways to unwind.

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wecantbefriends · 22/03/2024 09:54

There is so much hysterical misinformation about vaping on this thread.

Hilarious.

lallaland123 · 22/03/2024 09:54

as an absolute idiot i listened to my consultant from 121 ( cambridge diet ) when she advised to vape in order to feel less hungry and lose weight .

I never smoked , but liked the vapes , need to stop ASAP

SpeedyDrama · 22/03/2024 09:53

KimberleyClark · 22/03/2024 09:50

No. I hate the way vaping has become an alternative to smoking rather than a quitting aid. They were never meant to be used in the way they are.

You do understand living in a capitalist society, right? They will be used in the best way to make money and gain tax.

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