Do you vape?

No I never have and never would.

It's only a matter of time before the evidence is in of how harmful to health it is. The studies are already trickling in and as the damage will be cumulative there will be lots more in the future.

Because people don't always like your smell either.

You can not like the smell, of course. But don't act like your shit doesn't stink.

How is it hypocrisy to not like the smell of something? I hate the smell of most vapes, they’re rank. I also dislike most perfumes, some antiperspirants etc but this is a thread about vapes, hence giving my view on vapes.
Everyone has opinions. People obviously get defensive about their choices, and that’s normal. But I still hate walking through clouds of vape smoke, and it doesn’t make me ‘hypocritical’ to say so. It would be hypocritical if I was saying ‘I vape but I hate the smell and don’t want others doing it around me’, sure.

I do think MN is unusually judgemental about smoking/vaping.

I would imagine most of the people posting on here either drive a car or take foreign holidays, in which case it's hypocritical to complain about clouds of vapour. They wear perfume or antiperspirants that cannot possibly be universally liked, so it's hypocritical to complain about the smell. They hate that vapes smell sweet because it's for children, while no doubt they eat cake, chocolate, sweets, and biscuits themselves. Most of you are at the very least addicted to caffeine and sugar, if not have a frequent hankering for alcohol. And as for worrying about the health of others, how many of you are overweight? Or take no exercise? How many drink regularly?

There's a lot of hypocrisy going on here.

Well it depends what flavour they’re vaping for a start. Often they’re things like ‘candy floss’, really sickly and sweet. And they blow it over you in a cloud. And there’s often a group of people vaping together, then you get a mix of sickly artificial smells. But we’re all different 🤷🏻‍♀️. Things may bother you that I don’t care about.

I don't vape or smoke but hate smell of smoke but vape? Only smell I smell is a mild smell of fruit

No I don’t and I never will

I smoked from age 15-50, swapped to a beer, cut down the strengths till I was in 0% then just packed it in.
That's how vapes should be used IMO.

Jordan North's documentary on BBC 3 is really good

Well done. Actually using the vape to break the addiction rather than another way of getting the fix.

No chance but then I've never smoked either, just not for me

To stop you smoking actual fags?

Yes. I stopped smoking in January 2016, vaping instead. I still do and have no intention of stopping because I don't want to.

I switched to a vape to help me quit smoking. I was a 40 a day smoker for over 30 years.

Swapped to a vape and over 4 months I reduced the nicotine strength of the mix I was refilling my vape with. Once it reached 0 nicotine, I kept it up for a few weeks and then just stopped.

You will get addicted, it’s pretty much inevitable. The evening will start sooner. Or there’ll be a stressful event and you’ll think “I’ll just have a few sucks on the vape”.
But I understand the power of nicotine. My Gran gave up smoking at age 60, but loved the feeling nicotine gave her, and never managed to give it up. She chewed nicotine gum instead, which has been around for decades and is known to be safe. If you can’t live without nicotine, I would definitely try the gum, or put a patch on in the evening.
Also, do you want your kids to vape when they’re older? Because they’re much more likely to if you and your husband do. And they’ll know, kids know everything!

OP if you want the nicotine, buy some gum or a patch. You’ll still be a nicotine addict, but nicotine itself isn’t really harmful. It’s the shit that’s mixed with it that is dangerous, and there’s none of that in patches and gum.

Well I'm not a scientist and there has been no opportunity as yet to look at the long term impact. But the NHS say its multiple times safer than smoking and endorse it as a means to quit, which would be pretty irresponsible if the claims of some posters here are correct. Especially given there are other ways to give up smoking that they could endorse instead, and condemn vaping. So, make of that what you will.
As for the criticism of people who never smoked taking it up, I think people fail to take into account just how much human beings seek pleasure from things that are not optimum for health, be that overeating, alcohol consumption or nicotine products, and also rely on these things as crutches. I don't see that changing any time soon and us turning into a nation of teetotal, exercising healthy eaters, so vaping is just one example of less than healthy behaviour that seems to be receiving a lot of attention. How it compares against obesity and regular alcohol consumption as a health problem isn't understood as yet.
I don't vape BTW. But it's an interesting discussion.

I think vapes are worse.

A cigarette has an an end point. I go outside, have a five minute break and a smoke, and then its done. With a vape theres no end point. And then you end up just puffing on it all bloody day. And because its seen as more acceptable, my family do it in the house and in their car - if they had to go outside they wouldnt use it as much, So its a double edge sword.

It’s mind boggling that an adult, who got through the teen years without taking up smoking , should make a conscious decision to start inhaling a highly addictive substance, and filling their lungs with a load of chemicals.

Adult smokers switching to vapes - makes sense, as they’re already addicted to nicotine.
Teenagers taking up vaping - sad but understandable, that’s what teens do.

But an adult who is not a nicotine addict, choosing to take up nicotine use in a risky and largely untested way - insanity!

I can understand why people that smoke/used to smoke now vape but can't for the life of me get my head around why someone would vape when they have never smoked (unless young & peer pressure)

It reads like they tried all 9 just to make sure 🤣

Maybe they smoked it 🤣