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Help me unravel this mystery before I burn the contents of this room down

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NotAgainWilson · 21/03/2024 11:39

As the title says, I am feeling like purifying this room through fire after a week of cleaning. washing and replacing stuff has proved unsuccessful to remove the stench a short term lodger left behind.

The room was spring cleaned before his arrival. He was around for 3 weeks. He had massively smelly feet (I said that as the mother of a sporty smelly child that I could barely stand at times, but this is in a different league, more than ten times worse and resistant), after a week around I asked him if he could do something about the smell stench, he apologised (he was lovely and polite otherwise) and said he would get odour eaters to sort it.

It didn’t make a difference so, as I had told him when I rent the room that I would be going in to open the window to ventilate the room every morning, I got the super strength version of Odor Eaters and sprayed all his shoes every morning and left the window open the whole day. This helped the smell not to extend to other rooms as before.

The last of his 3 weeks, he had a cold so stayed at home, therefore I was unable to spray shoes if open the window. He left the room tidy but the stench is still there. It smells as if you have crossed bad smelly feet with buttery toffee and is of such strength you feel like vomiting.

The room was also left covered in some white fluff, very similar to the fluff you may find under the bed if you don’t clean for years, but it was EVERYWHERE, all around the floor, walls, furniture, picture frame and a lot of it has gone into the radiator. I cannot imagine such amount of fluff being produced in three weeks, much less so by a single person no matter how dirty they could be.

I have removed more than bucket load of fluff, vacuum cleaned and washed the walls, floors, furniture and the inside out of the radiator, used a whole can of Odor Eaters, Oust and a full bottle of Ecover as well as leaving the window open every day, one week later the stench is now a smell but is still unbearable.

I have bought a new duvet and pillows. But I am convinced that this situation can be due to either an endocrinology related issue or bacteria, and therefore not safe. Shall I burn all the bed linen? the whole room? I am at the end of my tether, have spent a week cleaning and again every day over the last week and the smell is still there.🤮🤮🤮🤮

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NotAgainWilson · 23/03/2024 09:09

Stigolini · 23/03/2024 09:04

Can you call in a priest?

I’m so furious about all this, I might be the first casualty of the exorcism!

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Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 23/03/2024 09:05

@NotAgainWilson you can run an ozone machine in a closed room for an hour. Just don’t enter it. Once the machine is finished, just open the room window to air it. That’s the protocol for the hen I was hotel housekeeping for smokers rooms.
Although imo they didn’t actually achieve anything as I could still smell the smoke. They just sped up the process of airing a room by leaving the window open - in a hotel turn over was more important than leaving a window open for a day or two!

Stigolini · 23/03/2024 09:04

Can you call in a priest?

NotAgainWilson · 23/03/2024 09:01

@RhubarbGingerJam Than you for the for the detailed information about the Ozone machine, I had not considered the possibility of getting one as I thought they would be expensive but also wondered about safety given ozone levels are often mentioned when describing polution

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NotAgainWilson · 23/03/2024 08:56

Thank you all. I sprayed the mattress with vinegar, and later with the HP Odour remover and after a few hours it seemed to have worked… then went out, came back by midnight and the smell was back. It is no longer in the mattress though.

I am narrowing it down to the radiator now (not electric) as the smell gets now only strong when the radiator is hot. He was running everyday and it has been raining quite a bit so he was keeping all his shoes just under the radiator. I have vacuum cleaned the radiator THOROUGHLY, inside out, and removed the fluff from the wall behind it, sprayed the inside and the wall with vinegar but still stinks when warm. I guess it needs a proper wash as it may be impregnated with the smell having the fumes of the shoes going through it for days but there is no space for a good scrub. I’ll try to get a brush I can run through it covered in a cleaning product.

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Moomin15 · 23/03/2024 08:44

Mama2many73 · 21/03/2024 12:14

According to a pest exterminator 'that ain't a mouse!' Mice are so small they don't decompose and smell so it's either a rat or many mice! Didn't make me feel much better!😔

I had a mouse crawl in the back of my desktop computer many years ago (brought in by cat). Every time the computer was on it heated up the dead mouse and it absolutely stank. I hadn't idea what the smell was and it drove me mad. I only found out what the smell was months later when a guy fixed my computer and there was this mostly decomposed mouse. Mice definitely smell!

NotAgainWilson · 23/03/2024 08:39

mathanxiety · 22/03/2024 18:58

I wonder could the fluff be shredded sanpro?

A friend's dog got into her overnight pads one time and left white fluffy stuff all over the bathroom.

That’s an interesting theory, it looked very much like that!

Edit: but I didn’t see any fluff piling up before he got the cold. I didn’t go in at all in his last week only saw it when he moved out so might have something to do with the industrial amount of toilet paper he used when he had the cold.

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NotAgainWilson · 23/03/2024 08:36

Primmyhill · 22/03/2024 18:26

Who is this chap? And why did he think it was ok to create such a foul stench in someone else’s house, even though you spoke to him about it? I’d be mortified! Smelly 🐷

I’m sure he is mortified, especially now that I have taken all the cleaning and products costs from his deposit. I guess, like with most people who stink, his brain was filtering out the stench…

He was perfectly clean and presentable, 2 showers a day at least. It was just the bloody shoes.

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RhubarbGingerJam · 23/03/2024 08:34

I'm surprised at all the suggestions for ozone machines.

People who buy ozone generators may not be aware that ozone can harm the cells in the lungs and respiratory airways. Exposure to ozone irritates and inflames the lining of the respiratory system. This causes symptoms including coughing, chest tightness, shortness of breath, and impaired breathing. Ozone can worsen asthma symptoms, and may contribute to the development of asthma. Elevated exposures to ozone can cause permanent lung damage, and repeated exposure can even increase the risk of dying among persons already in poor health. Persons especially vulnerable to health problems from breathing ozone include children and those who already suffer from asthma or other respiratory diseases, including the elderly. There are many experimental studies on animals, including dogs, cats, hamsters and guinea pigs, that show respiratory effects from exposure to ozone. Birds are especially sensitive to the effects of air pollutants, including ozone.

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/air-cleaners-ozone-products/hazardous-ozone-generating-air-purifiers#:~:text=People%20who%20buy%20ozone%20generators,of%20breath%2C%20and%20impaired%20breathing.

First link that came up - Welsh government in covid times spent about 3 million on project in covid to clean classrooms before they finally took on board low level ozone is actually really bad for health.

Sticking soft furnishing and mattress in sun is a good idea - UV kills bacteria.

@Washingupdone also right to point out electrics about to go can smell of fish or urine - though sound like a different smell best to be aware.

Hazardous Ozone-Generating Air Purifiers | California Air Resources Board

Some devices that are advertised as air purifiers purposely emit large amounts of ozone, the main component of smog. CARB recommends that ozone generators not be used,  except for approved industrial purposes where harmful exposure to ozone is prevente...

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/air-cleaners-ozone-products/hazardous-ozone-generating-air-purifiers#:~:text=People%20who%20buy%20ozone%20generators,of%20breath%2C%20and%20impaired%20breathing.

spottydinosaur · 23/03/2024 08:24

Time and keep airing the room with regular cleaning. Anything you can move outside to give it more air and sunlight with help too.

We'd a really bad smell from when our stuff had been stored in an unventilated house in the heat.

Other people said they couldn't smell it. I think I was highly sensitive to it and any little trace I could sniff out.

I still can pick it up on say a box that hasn't been opened yet but on most other things it has eventually gone.

It did take weeks maybe bordering on a month

PoochiesPinkEars · 23/03/2024 07:55

MelodyFinch · 23/03/2024 04:52

Get a fumigator in. My guess is the lodger may have had a condition that doesn’t enable them to sweat properly and the give off an odd smell.

It wasn't Prince Andrew was it? Can imagine a lingering odour with that one.

Jack80 · 23/03/2024 07:53

Try asking on the Mrs Hinch or Stacey Solomon Facebook groups

Elsewhere123 · 23/03/2024 06:17

The white fluffy stuff, not dry rot mycelium by any chance?

MelodyFinch · 23/03/2024 04:52

Get a fumigator in. My guess is the lodger may have had a condition that doesn’t enable them to sweat properly and the give off an odd smell.

Washingupdone · 23/03/2024 01:29

The smell is worst by the radiator Is it an electric radiator, could it be a fault in the circuit overheating the plastics and heat-resistant chemicals used in outlets, circuit breakers, or wiring insulation may emit a fishy or urine-like smell.

RecklessGoddess · 23/03/2024 00:42

Throckmorton · 21/03/2024 12:08

Febreeze? The adverts would suggest it might work. Worth a try certainly!

I've tried that before, I find it jumajes nasty smells e even worse.

ftp · 23/03/2024 00:15

Lots of great suggestions here. So:

  • My dog died in November (bear with me) - I am still finding hairs. If he was shedding smelly skin, then it will take several vacs to remove.
  • Have you washed your vac filters and pipes? If not the smell may be re-introduced every time you use it.
  • Have you any exposed floorboards? If so it may well have gone down under.
  • Can you lift and air the carpet? You may find that it is not in the carpet but in the underlay - possibly a cheaper replacement than the carpet.
  • I would not necessarily wash curtains, but hanging them on the line in wind for a few days and wash the rails out - you say febreeze did not work, but if you do this before hanging out, it might help.
  • Hoover the walls and light fittings - sounds silly I know, but even paintwork can gather fine dust, and when you wash it, it will spread and dry back out, resettling
  • open windows when you hoover
SirVixofVixHall · 23/03/2024 00:11

I had a flatmate with this issue, it was horrendous. It must have been a medical problem as he was clean. After he moved out we had to redecorate his room as the smell had got into everything, but I didn’t know then about bicarbonate/ vinegar etc.

Yunna · 22/03/2024 23:39

You need a mop and bucket of soapy water to clean the floors. Bathroom wipes will not cut it! I always mop my Victorian floorboards, never heard of it damaging the varnish!!

sympatico1 · 22/03/2024 23:36

The smell problem is worrying, but the white fluff thing is alarming! The OP said there was enough to fill the hoover! Then overnight, more appeared. Surely no mould could grow that fast? Could it be that something (animal) is shredding insulation material/paper/tissues? What is the fluff consistency - is it hairy, smooth, powdery?

Idontcareboutthestateofmyhair · 22/03/2024 23:30

He's not done one of those 'spurned lover' type revenges and left his smelly socks under the floorboards or sewn into the mattress has he lol? 'Spurned lodger' bitch said my feet were smelly..I'll show her! 😁

Seriously though, have you tried asking someone else to sniff the room? Sometimes my bloke says I smell things that nobody else can. My dog pissed on the carpet a lot when she was younger and although I've washed it a million times I still smell it when I go into our house..nobody else does..just me!

Jacesmum1977 · 22/03/2024 22:11

NotAgainWilson · 21/03/2024 12:25

That would be lovely! But I don’t think I (or anyone around me) would survive a day of two with the hormonal chaos of being pregnant and menopausal at the same time.

The lodger would be dead by now…

Could it be that you are more sensitive to smell due to meno? I’m perimeno and my symptoms are all over the shop x

Teenagehorrorbag · 22/03/2024 21:49

Mama2many73 · 21/03/2024 12:14

According to a pest exterminator 'that ain't a mouse!' Mice are so small they don't decompose and smell so it's either a rat or many mice! Didn't make me feel much better!😔

My cats often bring in mice. Occasionally one escapes and then dies under the fridge in the utility room. They definitely do decompose and smell really bad, like a mouldy tangerine but with a meaty undertone. We always know.....and when we find them they are often still looking quite 'fresh' (i.e. not decomposing and full of maggots or anything gross) but still really stink!

Emj86 · 22/03/2024 21:20

Could you have a water leak? There could be pipes under the floorboards. There is clearly moisture in there for it to be growing white mould and it will keep coming back as long as the moisture is still there

OldPerson · 22/03/2024 21:07

Hmmn.

If he was that smelly, you would have smelled him when he arrived to take the room. But apparently when he rented the room, his odour did not offend you.

So what is really going on?

A) You should consider there is a problem with the room. Is it localised to the room? Maybe there is a leak/ damp/ mould? Or does the bathroom he used also stink?

b) You should consider something malicious has happened. Either he's stuffed something obnoxious to rot under the floor boards, behind the radiator, like dead fish, or a dead body?

c) You're mentally obsessed with how smelly he was and now have over-sensitive fake nostril smell due to stress?

Serriously. No one's body odour outlasts a good spring clean.

You probably have a more serious problem going on.