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To have bought this child school shoes?

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southwing · 20/03/2024 20:57

I will try to be comprehensive and hopefully not drip feed later.

DD’s best friend (let’s call her Sophie) come to playdates and sleep overs very often. They are both in Y1 but different schools.

Sophie’s mum is pregnant and have a toddler and dad work very long hours. I’m good friends with them.

One day I picked up Sophie from her school on a Friday and noticed that her old shoes finally gave in, the soles were open and her socks completely wet.

I then took Sophie and DD to Clarks and bought Sophie a new pair, very similar to the one she had before.

Later that night when her dad came to pick her up, she was wearing the new shoes with DD’s socks and I handed dad the box with the old shoes and the wet socks inside. He asked me how much he owned me and I said it was a gift since Sophie’s birthday was on Sunday. He was very thankful.

We went to Sophie’s birthday on Sunday and brought another little gift we had already bought well in advance. Nothing was said about the shoes.

Roll on to the following week, Sophie’s mum asks me to meet after school on the nearby playground. There she hands me DD’s socks back and says absolutely nothing about the shoes. At all. And she seems crossed for some reason, definetely acting weird.

Now I was not expecting a song and dance nor even another thank you but I find the lack of acknowledgement from her a bit weird. Now she is acting different.

Did I cross a line or is it in my head?

The reasons I gifited the shoe is because

  • it was my idea that I acted upon before consulting them so not fair to ask for money back
  • I know how much they are struggling with CoL, they are very open about it. They are living in a mouldy 1 bedroom flat and fighting against the LL who is talking about eviction
  • I’m in a better position financially and the cost of the shoes will not affect me in any way

I remember when DD was a toddler and I had to buy her shoes from shoezone. My dream was being able to afford a little pair of clarks for her. I used to raid the charity shops but never found the right size. The day I was able to buy DD her very 1st pair of clark shoes was for her 2 year birthday and brought me do much joy!
Doing it for Sophie brought me the same kind of joy. I was genuinely happy to have the opportunity to do it for her.

Should I have done anything differently? I’m thinking maybe texting Sophie’s mum before buying the shoes?

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Greengagesnfennel · 20/03/2024 23:04

Sorry i think you crossed a line. Buying someone else's kids shoes is weird behaviour. It's not like giving them a t shirt because they spilt something. Shoes are worn every day for ages so it should be the parent who gets to choose what they are.

southwing · 20/03/2024 22:58

itmakesmyheart · 20/03/2024 22:55

You are cycling through the other two roles during the course of this thread, too, op.

Going between persecutor; all the "oh right so you know that for a fact?" type posts.

and victim "I'll carry on being me with my good heart".

Well, it's interesting to watch.

Well, I 100% agree with you

Definitely know the rescuer side of me well

Something to work on 👍🏼

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itmakesmyheart · 20/03/2024 22:55

You are cycling through the other two roles during the course of this thread, too, op.

Going between persecutor; all the "oh right so you know that for a fact?" type posts.

and victim "I'll carry on being me with my good heart".

Well, it's interesting to watch.

itmakesmyheart · 20/03/2024 22:53

I do think it is all a bit drama triangle.

In that the rescuer role is dysfunctional.

Did you ever see the episode of Friends where Phoebe argues that people only do good deeds to meet their own needs?

Bit like that.

To have bought this child school shoes?
southwing · 20/03/2024 22:52

ManchesterLu · 20/03/2024 22:46

Yeah, this. Maybe he made out as though he bought them for her? But even if not, you don't do altruistic acts so people make a fuss of you. You do it because you believe it's the right thing to do at the time. The mum, if she knows about the shoes, will most likely be embarrassed about what happened.

and probably he forced Sophie to lie too? After convincing mum that clarks was still open after he finished work? or maybe he bought during his lunch time?

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ManchesterLu · 20/03/2024 22:46

Blueoceana · 20/03/2024 21:05

Maybe the dad didn’t tell her you bought them

Yeah, this. Maybe he made out as though he bought them for her? But even if not, you don't do altruistic acts so people make a fuss of you. You do it because you believe it's the right thing to do at the time. The mum, if she knows about the shoes, will most likely be embarrassed about what happened.

Vgbeat · 20/03/2024 22:45

I think its lovely that you have done. I have been in both situations, a few years ago was on the bones of my arse and now 100 percent in a better place and love treating people. I have always struggled to ask for and accept help and do find it hard to respond which perhaps she is similar. I wouldn't give it another thought and just carry on.

AuntMarch · 20/03/2024 22:45

the clothes are already from charity shop and hand me downs - it is not like DD is inheriting Sophie’s expensive wardrobe so - - it did not cross my mind because - - the shoes were not in exchange from clothes…make sense?

🙄

peppermintcrisp · 20/03/2024 22:41

My DD came home the other day and I noticed the sole had come right away. I said to DD how long had it been like that? She said ages. These were Clark's shoes, a couple of month's old. She is quite destructive with shoes. I replaced them immediately but if a friend's mums had seen them I would have been mortified.

I think you should have mentioned it to her parents and not bought the shoes.

Watchthedoormat · 20/03/2024 22:40

You swooped to the rescue. I hope you enjoyed that warm fuzzy glow.
Your heroic act of 'kindness' would have left me feeling embarrassed and neglectful.
Have other parents/children noticed my childs shoes are past their best?
Is it obvious we are struggling?
Are we being talked about?
Will SS be at my door?
Is my child being bullied?
Are you going to tell other people about this? (YES. You're so pleased with yourself that you've told a bunch of strangers on Mumsnet so you'll definitely be telling other friends/acquaintances of this generous act). Your pal knows you so will know what type of person you are.
It's good the child comes to your house regularly for sleepovers and the like. How else would they keep warm and get fed?

These are things Mum will likely be ruminating over.

southwing · 20/03/2024 22:39

WaitingForMojo · 20/03/2024 22:36

You say Sophie would debunk your lie… I would not have told Sophie the shoes were new either. I’d have given them to the parents and passed them off as a hand me down in some way.

did you not read the part where I took Sophie to the shop?

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Firawla · 20/03/2024 22:38

I don’t think you did anything wrong, and you’re getting such a hard time for this.
I possibly would have done the same thing, if the shoes were all wet and Clark’s was nearby then it’s not a big deal to me. Tbh I couldn’t be doing with a close friend acting weird about that. If you’re all close then you
can treat each others kids like you would your own, and not make a big deal of it. That’s the dynamic between me and my close friends too. I would not lie or make up a weird story or excuse, it’s better to be straight up with it like you did, and keeping it as no big deal
The only part I wouldn’t have done is bring a bday present into it. So I wouldn’t say it’s the birthday present I would rather be like oh we’ve had so many clothes passed down from Sophie it all evens out, don’t worry about it
But you did nothing wrong

thefamous5 · 20/03/2024 22:37

I would have been embarrassed, but I also would have been really touched that you'd done that. If I were the mum, I'd possibly have said 'Thankyou for the shoes, I can't afford to give you the money in one go, but I'll pay you back in instalments, if that's ok?'. If you then insisted it was a gift, I would have thanked you and took it as a kind gesture.

However, that's how I would have dealt with it. Everyone reacts and feels different, clearly.

I'd have probably gone along the lines, if I were you, of saying 'oh I bought these from Vinted but wrong size/style - they fit xx so she can have them save them going to waste'

For now, I'd possibly text and say something like 'meant to say to xxs dad the other night - thanks for the stuff you've given me for stuff over the years - was sorting out things the other night and realised you've saved me a fortune'.

WaitingForMojo · 20/03/2024 22:36

You say Sophie would debunk your lie… I would not have told Sophie the shoes were new either. I’d have given them to the parents and passed them off as a hand me down in some way.

AristotelianPhysics · 20/03/2024 22:33

Massive virtue signalling fail.

southwing · 20/03/2024 22:32

Lesson learned.

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southwing · 20/03/2024 22:31

caringcarer · 20/03/2024 22:25

You did nothing wrong. Maybe when her Dad collected her you might have said something along lines of 'to thank you both for giving my DD some of Sophie's clothes'.

I get that and I say thank you when they give me the clothes of course and the clothes are already from charity shop and hand me downs - it is not like DD is inheriting Sophie’s expensive wardrobe so - - it did not cross my mind because - - the shoes were not in exchange from clothes…make sense?

In our circle we are giving each other clothes for the kids all the time - I do a lot less because DD is the smallest and an only child - all her friend’s younger sibilings are boys bar one, so once DD is done with the clothes it goes to charity shop or this one other child who already gets hand me downs from her own sibiling

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strawberryandtomato · 20/03/2024 22:29

Nope. I would have hated that. Schools shoes get old. I live a busy life. These jobs are saved for online where possible or weekends.
I think you massively overstepped the mark. I would be mortified if I were the mum

WithACatLikeTread · 20/03/2024 22:26

I would have felt very embarrassed and a bit of a charity case if you had done that to me! You would have made her feel like a failure.

Startyabastard · 20/03/2024 22:26

You are a great person, @southwing

caringcarer · 20/03/2024 22:25

You did nothing wrong. Maybe when her Dad collected her you might have said something along lines of 'to thank you both for giving my DD some of Sophie's clothes'.

NerrSnerr · 20/03/2024 22:23

If you're as close as you say then I don't see why you didn't text her mum to ask her what she wanted you to do. She might have already ordered a pair online.

Why not talk to her about it? You keep saying how close you are so what's the issue?

southwing · 20/03/2024 22:23

People will probably now say I’m trying to project a certain image but lying never cross my mind

And

Sophie woud sure debunk my lie?

And

Yes I acted on impulse based on my own world view and experiences and wrongly assumed I knew Sophie’s mum better than I probably do so…

Will keep to myself and put it behind

Hopefully they know me enough to know I was not trying to humiliate or judge

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Upinthenightagain · 20/03/2024 22:21

Kalevala · 20/03/2024 22:13

DS's almost wore through on the sole and had split around the ankle already. He requested the exact same trainers when I offered to buy him new ones after a year. He wears nothing else outside of school so they get plenty of wear. The new ones stayed in the box for another year before he finally let me throw out the old ones. He insisted they were still fine!

Unfortunately with DD’s the exact ones aren’t available. This years version of them is not acceptable. Kids!

mirl · 20/03/2024 22:20

You need to stop focusing on the posters suggesting you would have been better to lie about where the shoes came from. You didn't need to tell any lies. You just didn't have to buy an expensive pair of school shoes. I cannot believe that a Clarks is closer than any supermarket that sells clothing or shoes. And if so you should have still gone to one. A cheap pair of shoes was the more appropriate purchase in this situation and likely wouldn't have caused any perceived embarrassment.

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