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To expect partner to help with paying for food shops?

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Lunluna09 · 20/03/2024 16:21

So I earn between 1.9-2k a month, my partner earns 1.9k so more or less the same.

We live together and I have a child from a previous relationship, and also a car, which he does not.

The household bills are almost £1700 a month, and he currently pays £600 towards this, which is fine as my car means my share is higher.

My issue is I also pay for every food shop, and also all the petrol, and I drive him around frequently. He thinks he pays his fair share in his words and doesn't need to pay more. I buy all his essentials, deodorant, etc

I'm currently spending £1800 a month on the rest of the bills, food/ essentials for the three of us and petrol and it's bleeding me dry, I've got nothing to put aside, ive had two flat tires this month and nothing to fall back on and I'm really struggling. I've brought it up to him and it's very much 'youll need to cut down on things' with no offer to help out even one week a month with doing a food shop.

He's terrible with money and never has anything left after the first week. If I mention needing more he makes me feel like I'm being unreasonable asking for money from him. He also frequently asks to borrow what little money I have from me through the month as he never has any.

AIBU?

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PrinceLouisWeirdFinger · 21/03/2024 18:49

How old is he? 16? Surely a fully functioning adult man can work out that he’s paying less than a student would pay for mouldy room in a shared house of 7 in a dodgy part of town? And that before you get to bills and food. A man who loved you would want the best for you. He’d want to live a life with you where you were happy, secure, and were an equal, not one where you were struggling because you had to feed him and drive him everywhere and made sure he didn’t smell. I bet you do all the cooking, cleaning (with the products you pay for), and shag him too. And then you have to bail him out on top of all that?

What does he bring to your life that makes him worth all that?

user1471538283 · 21/03/2024 18:33

£600 a month all in? I'll move in with you!

I'd get rid of him. Once again every morsel of food or gallon of petrol he uses is less for your DC.

If you don't get rid of him make it really uncomfortable. I can't feed you I'm cutting back like you said. I can't give you a lift I'm cutting back like you said. I can't buy your deodorant ... You can't have a shower ... You can't use the washer ...

Bet he'll leave then!

Charlieiscool · 21/03/2024 18:28

You don’t need to ask. You know you are being a complete fool.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 21/03/2024 18:25

You're only struggling because you're subsidising him! Why doesn't he think he should contribute to the food and petrol costs? You're allowing him to take money away from your child.

Kitkat1523 · 21/03/2024 18:24

Your partner is taking the piss and you are enabling him

slore · 21/03/2024 18:24

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CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 21/03/2024 18:21

He's had it all his own way so far, now it's time to prioritise yourself and your DC. If he doesn't want to fit in properly like a genuine partner should, then it's time for him to go.

itwasntmetho · 21/03/2024 18:18

He's taking the piss.
The thing is, even when you tell him you won't be he's mummy anymore, you will be left with the knowledge that he would be willing to let you live like this while he has £1300 a month for himself if only he could still get away with it.
I would never watch someone I love struggle whilst feeding me.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/03/2024 18:17

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 17:02

Not from me she wouldn't.

He's already subsidising DC via a bigger property than a couple would need, and higher bills. Is it too much to ask that DC father actually chips in too, or are step-parents held to a higher standard than actual parents?

In what way is he subsiding op?

He pays next to nothing for his accommodation once his share of utility, council tax, toiletries, petrol, wear and tear on her car and food etc is deducted. Plus op is considerably worse off as she has to pay full council tax and may even have lost some benefits.

Op is either break even with him being there or as I suspect, even be worse off due to him living there, plus all of the additional labour including taxiing him around.

A child does not cost a lot extra, definitely not 1/3 of the food bill. If anything, a man will eat a similar amount to a woman plus younger child combined. A bedroom from a 1 to 2 bed not be 1/3 more.

I also would not be calling him a step parent. A step parent is engaged and wants what is best for their partner and partner’s child.

Americano75 · 21/03/2024 18:17

Are you seeing my ex? He was a sponging cunt too.

Make yours an ex, you deserve it.

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 21/03/2024 18:09

Haha, "cut down on things", sure. Cut down on driving him around, cut down on his toiletries, the food he likes...

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/03/2024 18:08

UptoYou · 21/03/2024 17:59

Balls I clicked AIBU by accident and can't change my vote. YANBU!!!

Yes you can. Just click on yanbu and it changes. There is 1 day 22 hours to change your vote.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 21/03/2024 18:08

Why exactly does he think he doesn't need to pay to feed himself or his personal hygiene stuff. What ridiculous reason does he give for that not being his responsibility??

Dragonsmother · 21/03/2024 18:08

What did you sign up for?
A partner or another child?

LuckyStone · 21/03/2024 18:05

So OP, are you kicking the useless piece of shit out!???? Or is this just one of those waste of space threads where the OP just rolls over again and continues to be a doormat to a complete and utter arsehole of a "man"?

UptoYou · 21/03/2024 17:59

Balls I clicked AIBU by accident and can't change my vote. YANBU!!!

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 17:53

potato57 · 21/03/2024 17:52

You can gift someone up to £3k with no questions asked.

It's not a "gift" if you're charging it at a specific rate...

potato57 · 21/03/2024 17:52

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 17:47

and then pay tax on those "earnings" as they are no longer a household contribution 🙄

You can gift someone up to £3k with no questions asked.

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 17:47

potato57 · 21/03/2024 17:30

Charge him Uber rates for lifts and Deliveroo rates for food and cooking (since I'm guessing you also do the cooking). Paid in advance.

and then pay tax on those "earnings" as they are no longer a household contribution 🙄

luw7797 · 21/03/2024 17:42

I have been in a similar situation, paying for practically everything whilst partner is terrible with money. He wasn’t doing it intentionally, I just don’t think he realised how much of a difference there was between how each of us were spending money.
What worked for me was to first create a list of every expense and how much they were costing each month. Food shop, each separate bill, petrol, insurance etc etc. I then pointed out to him which of these expenses I was paying, and which he was paying. A million times before this id mentioned how I was spending more than him and it wasn’t fair, I but I think putting it down like this is front of him actually made it sink in. Now we have a joint account that we both put the same amount in per month for the food shop, and we each pay our individual expenses like phone bills from our own accounts. Probably seems a bit of a faff but it works for us. I also pointed out to him what he was sending silly amounts of money on (he used to spend over £100 a month on monster energy drinks!!) and now he bulk buys them at the beginning of the month and if he runs out he runs out. See if you can find compromises like that where he still gets his luxuries but there’s some element of sacrificing/money saving

potato57 · 21/03/2024 17:30

Charge him Uber rates for lifts and Deliveroo rates for food and cooking (since I'm guessing you also do the cooking). Paid in advance.

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 17:04

RosalindFranklin13 · 21/03/2024 16:32

Would he be paying only 600 a month for rent, heat, groceries etc. if he lived alone? I doubt it.

Conversely, OP would be paying pretty much the same to be a single parent, as rent etc wouldn't be cheaper. I guess OP might receive some benefits, so taxpayers would be paying rather than DP.

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 17:02

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/03/2024 16:49

It's not up to him to subsidise your child

If OPwas stepmother to her DP's child, she would be getting comments like "You shouldn't be with him if you aren't prepared to treat his children as your own" etc. Why are men not held to the same standard of care?

And a child won't be eating the quantity of food an adult does - and a OP probably won't eat as much as her DP does. He should be paying half of the food bills.

Not from me she wouldn't.

He's already subsidising DC via a bigger property than a couple would need, and higher bills. Is it too much to ask that DC father actually chips in too, or are step-parents held to a higher standard than actual parents?

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 17:00

Lunluna09 · 20/03/2024 16:46

Sorry for the confusion, so household bills I've included rent, gas, electric, council tax etc and also the car/ insurance as I drive us most places we go, to work etc

The bills specifically for the house excluding the car are around £1250 a month and my car, car tax, insurance etc make up the remainder, which is why I'm happy with his £600 contribution towards the bills but questioning if hes right that he shouldn't need to pay for food.

To answer a few other questions, he lives here full time, we rent and have been together two years, living together full time for around 5 months. My child is here 6 days a week.

Sorry, just saw that update. So he is already paying half of the household bills (excluding car expenses). He sounds like he's already paying more than his fair share there, as he's effectively paying towards your DC costs too - do you not receive any maintenance or benefits for DC? If you're looking for a financially fair household costs split, he should probably be paying 1/3 of the household bills, so around £400, then towards car and food costs too - the £200 would be seen as that portion, but I guess a little more would make that equitable. If car costs are £600 (outrageously high, but your choice) then his share would be £200, and then 1/3 of the food bill too - maybe another £100/£150?

Beezknees · 21/03/2024 16:55

usernamealreadytaken · 21/03/2024 16:44

Do the household bills of £1700 not include food/toiletries? He's paying a little over 1/3 of the household bills. It's not up to him to subsidise your child, although by paying 1/3 rent he is already (if you were a couple with no child you could live in a smaller/cheaper property) - I assume their father is/should be paying their share toward those expenses?

If the £1700 excludes food, then you need to let him know and ask for his 1/3 share. If he doesn't want to pay, he doesn't get to eat - your shopping will be cheaper :-)

The government certainly thinks it is up to a new partner to subsidise a child, which is why single parents get benefits stopped when a partner moves in (if they claim them).