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To be absolutely over life with genital herpes

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ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 14:26

Was diagnosed just before Christmas and since then the symptoms haven't stopped for a single day. Not one! Can't have sex with my partner. Can't concentrate on my job because of the constant tingling and sciatica. Can't enjoy a holiday or a film or a book. Mumsnet was so kind to me at the time and I had a lot of hope but the people who were fine again quickly are on another planet from me. The weirdest part is it's HSV1, which is supposed to be milder!

Tried to get a follow up appointment at the GUM clinic but they are booked out so I need to call back in April to see what's available. I know they can't offer me anything more anyway. I think it makes them uncomfortable having to see patients like me became it's obviously just a depressing case of hope for the best/get used to a reduced quality of life.

If this is what my life is going to be like now I don't think I can do it. I know sex is just one part of life but being unable to be spontaneously intimate or even reliably sit down comfortably is just torment.

What a shitty, tawdry, pointless, ridiculous thing to have ruined my life. I actually cannot believe this has happened. Feel like I've gone mad. And I can't believe people still have carefree sex when this stupid thing is out there. I suppose it's not that bad for most people.

What's my aibu? That I can't live with something that doesn't seem to bother most others that much, I suppose.

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LaughingCat · 20/03/2024 19:26

Argh - this sounds awful for you! I can’t imagine having to go about daily life while trying to cope with that. On the subject of topical creams, the only thing I’ve ever found that works for my urticaria is Aveeno Anti-Itch concentrated lotion. It’s not licensed in the UK, but it is by the FDA in the US, as an over the counter medicine. You can buy it online and it is legal in this country to import an unlicensed medical product as long as it is only for your own use. Not many people know that but please make sure you import from an authorised seller in the US, not some random website, as you have no idea with the latter whether you’re getting a genuine product or what’s actually in it - even better, if you have friends in the US, get them to post some to you.

My thoughts were that Aveeno is a global, trusted brand from an established company and, if that product has been through the OTC licensing process by one of the biggest regulatory bodies in the world, it’s probably ok, even if our regulator wasn’t sold on it (technically it is one of two active ingredients in a UK-licensed anal fissure foam, so it must be judged reasonably safe here - it’s possible no-one’s ever put in a licensing application).

I found it incredibly effective at stopping the constant burning itching that drives me to scratch until I actually bleed everywhere. The active ingredient is pramoxine hydrochloride, known as pramocaine here, which is a local anaesthetic. It’s not recommended for long term use but if you’re having days where it’s really bad, it just instantly seems to make it better. It’s also fine to use on both skin and ‘sensitive mucous membranes’ so labia should be ok. However using medical products that aren’t licensed in the UK is entirely at your own risk, and I’m not a pharmaceutical professional soooo…totally up to you. But it really helps me to relieve itching, burning, chronic pain.

Soz for the essay and completely ignore if unhelpful!

Onceuponatimeiwasahoe · 20/03/2024 19:25

I'm not trying to be annoying but have you tried any herbal remedies? Have a research, annoying there is no cure yet to herpes

dottydodah · 20/03/2024 19:05

DD had this .on meds take a while to work .Salt baths help and try not to get run down as well .Hope you feel better soon x

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 19:05

Dryt · 20/03/2024 18:58

I’ve been at that point psychologically with UTIs, it’s hard to imagine from the outside how depressed you can get from the constant pain, lack of intimacy and feeling of something being interminable, even if you can pull it together to look like you’re functioning most of the time. I’m one of the people who had a bad initial outbreak of genital herpes but then rapid recovery - mine migrated to my face, and have only appeared there afterwards. I’ve occasionally had near constant facial outbreaks when I’ve been generally rundown and stressed, and have also noticed certain foods (peanut butter, lots of sugar, caffeine or dark chocolate) guarantee me an outbreak, as well as a pms hormonal effect. Obviously it can be a vicious cycle trying to be less stressed when you’re in constant pain. But if you can do anything to look after yourself more broadly and holistically then it might help to nudge things in the right direction. Can you get an extra hour of sleep a night, I don’t think there’s anything better for the immune system? I hope it changes soon for you.

Thanks @dryt and I know. It's like being a prisoner in your body and you can't really talk about it. I think the last day of my period is my trigger, actually. That lowest point in the month before I start building up again. I don't think caffeine is related (God I hope not - although the fact that I'd give up coffee for this is a serious testament to how bad it is)

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ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 18:59

Thank you for being so encouraging. I think I'm pretty healthy (I was too sick to go to the gym for a couple of months but that has passed now and I'm trying sauna therapy too) but there's always room for experimentation so I will try cutting stuff out. I am quite into microbiome stuff already but what usually works for eg passing bugs doesn't seem to be touching this.

I guess if I think about it I DO feel better than I did this time last month so maybe I do just have to be patient (and get back on the antivirals).

I feel quite scared at how hard it has been to see an NHS doctor. I ended up paying for my own hepatitis and HIV tests because I was sure something must be behind my apparent non response to antivirals but they just weren't taking me seriously enough to see me in person for that. (You can tbf get a home hiv test but who has the courage to take that when they think there's a serious risk of a positive??)

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Dryt · 20/03/2024 18:58

I’ve been at that point psychologically with UTIs, it’s hard to imagine from the outside how depressed you can get from the constant pain, lack of intimacy and feeling of something being interminable, even if you can pull it together to look like you’re functioning most of the time. I’m one of the people who had a bad initial outbreak of genital herpes but then rapid recovery - mine migrated to my face, and have only appeared there afterwards. I’ve occasionally had near constant facial outbreaks when I’ve been generally rundown and stressed, and have also noticed certain foods (peanut butter, lots of sugar, caffeine or dark chocolate) guarantee me an outbreak, as well as a pms hormonal effect. Obviously it can be a vicious cycle trying to be less stressed when you’re in constant pain. But if you can do anything to look after yourself more broadly and holistically then it might help to nudge things in the right direction. Can you get an extra hour of sleep a night, I don’t think there’s anything better for the immune system? I hope it changes soon for you.

violetcuriosity · 20/03/2024 18:45

I was the same, I'm 5 years down the line and I never have outbreaks anymore. Haven't had one since 2021. I do take acyclovir 2x daily and buy it online 4 times a year. I honestly doesn't effect my life in any way anymore. VERY occasionally I might feel the tingle or feel a very mild itch.

It WILL get so much better than this 🫶🏻

Harassedmum123 · 20/03/2024 18:30

I am so sorry to hear it is affecting your life so much . I have been taking Aciclovir for the last 7 years without any gap. In previous years, every time I took it for a few months then stopped for a while, I would get the tingling feeling within a few days. I have a yearly check (over the phone with pharmacist ) and they are fine with me taking it continually.
I think there is other medication you can take rather than Aciclovir so you could explore that and ask GP to prescribe.

PotatoCatkin · 20/03/2024 18:29

@ChristmasGutPunch I'm so gutted for you.

I was one of those who commented on your original post with my relatively positive story and I was so hoping your outcome would be similar to mine.

I don't even really have any advice to offer but if it were me, I'd be tempted to massively overhaul my diet. It's the one thing I consistently use as a tool to alleviate symptoms of other health issues I have.

I've found cutting out refined carbs and sugar and UPFs have had success in the past (not with the heroes but other issues!) It's a little drastic (and a bit miserable to begin with) but if nothing else was working, I'd definitely consider giving it a go.

Dogknowsbest · 20/03/2024 18:28

Maybe you need to get someone to take a look.

It sounds unusual for a flare up to last that long and I would question whether there's a bacterial infection going on as well.

It sounds utterly miserable. I hope you find an answer soon x

Foxblue · 20/03/2024 18:19

Oh you've had an absolutely dreadful time of it. Definitely start kicking up a fuss as much as possible, it's impacting your quality of life after all. Got everything crossed for you that you get some relief soon, so sorry I don't have any useful remedies to add.
Is it worth stopping anything topical for a bit, maybe a week, as a circuit break for your skin? I know that prospect is probably horrible, but I'm thinking of when people use a lot of skincare on acne prone skin and it can (for some people) end up being too much for the skin to handle and they have to go back to zero. Don't do it if you can't face it though, this is a totally unscientific suggestion.

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 18:16

Thanks, @Jifmicroliquid and yes it's awful. At the beginning six months felt unbearably far but now if I could be improved by June I'd be ecstatic.

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ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 18:14

It is like the seat of our whole bodies it's terrible, isn't it. Sympathy right back at you.

I think men are much less likely to suffer with it so maybe that makes a difference to the reported effects stats. I also have quite sensitive skin so I wonder if I just "hold it in" less effectively than some people.

But yes it's terrible. I think a lot of transmission is asymptomatic (that's how I caught it - from someone who would still be oblivious if I hadn't told him) and some of us are just the unlucky end of the chain.

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Jifmicroliquid · 20/03/2024 18:11

I feel your pain. My first 6 months with it was awful. Now my outbreaks are much milder and more short lived.
Sending you a big hug because it’s rubbish x

ZoeCM · 20/03/2024 18:09

OP, I'm so sorry to hear you're going through this. I don't have herpes but I have vulvodynia, and I know exactly what you mean about not being able to enjoy or concentrate on anything due to the constant tingling and discomfort. Mine has improved somewhat, but when it was at its worst, I just remember feeling that my life had been ruined.

I really doubt you're alone in your symptoms. I think some people with herpes are offended by the fact that people would be put off dating them, so they try to downplay it - "the first outbreak is the only one that hurts, after that it's just a bit of a nuisance".

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 17:44

Charlieiscool · 20/03/2024 17:43

Some people take propolis and say it helps. It’s worth a try.

Thanks. I actually do find it's good topically so worth a go. I have about fifteen different things on the go (and who knows maybe they stop it being even worse).

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Charlieiscool · 20/03/2024 17:43

Some people take propolis and say it helps. It’s worth a try.

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 17:36

I don't know if there's any science to it but I can see a general betterness in not needing to (but a thousand times better to take it if it works than just suffer this forever). I think I've actually had it since August and my first sores were Christmas time so hoping to God it might chill out a bit. At least I can eat food again - that part was shit!!

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shorttwoshot · 20/03/2024 17:20

I've tried coming off them over the years but it just flares up again, so I've had to accept that I'll have to take them permanently now. It's been over 7 years and to be honest I didn't know that the NHS isn't keen for people to take them long term. No one has ever suggested that I try and come off them. I've got an overactive immune system so maybe that's why?

What I can say is that there's light at the end of the tunnel, it just doesn't feel like it during the first few months xxx

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 17:15

Hi @Foxblue yes it's me. You really helped me get through the initial bit which was awful and I really really appreciate you for that. I'm actually wondering about going to a private gynaecologist to have a holistic check over but GUM stuff really seems to be a bit of an NHS monopoly. Besides which I think the only hope is that I'm one of those people who calms down a bit at year 1.

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Foxblue · 20/03/2024 17:01

I think I remember you OP - was it you who was worried about your immunocompromised partner?
So sorry to hear you're having such a vile time of it, are there private GUM clinics you could look into - if that is such a thing? Are you definitely not immunocompromised yourself, or is that worth exploring? How's your diet/water intake otherwise? (I won't ask about sleep or exercise as 'body horror' is accurate)

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 16:58

I hate that this thing is in me forever :( I guess it's an adjustment that at first I thought one outbreak a year sounded bad and now I think it sounds utopian.

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YetMoreNewBeginnings · 20/03/2024 16:56

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 16:52

Did your dd find she was ok for the long term after the 6 months? I suppose I should try. For a while I was scared I had some immunocompromised situation going on as everyone seemed sure antivirals would fix it and they just didn't but maybe I just need to be more patient.

Her first outbreak was the worst. She’s had a few since over the years when she’s been under serious levels of stress, but she can tell when it’s about to kick off and starts the anti virals right away and it’s a minor inconvenience rather than anything as bad as the first one was

When she does take them she takes them for 3 months even if it seems to have gone away relatively quickly.

ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 16:54

shorttwoshot · 20/03/2024 16:50

You have my total sympathy, the first few months were awful for me. I've been on aciclovir maintenance treatment for a few years now and it does generally keep it under control. I wonder whether it might be worth trying this again but giving it three + months to allow it chance to work?

Thanks - you're right, I was up at a madly high dose and it was doing nothing and I just gave up. The side effects didn't seem noticeable so I suppose anything is worth a go. It just alarmed me a bit when I thought I might be making things worse. I know the NHS doesn't like people being on them long term in general but I literally cannot live like this.

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ChristmasGutPunch · 20/03/2024 16:52

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 20/03/2024 16:49

I’d speak to the sexual health clinic about it. DDs GP was well meaning but not massively helpful. It took a while before she was prescribed the 6 month course and it made a massive difference.

I know it’s horrible when it seems to be doing nothing, but sometimes it’s worth persevering on the chance that it will help.

Did your dd find she was ok for the long term after the 6 months? I suppose I should try. For a while I was scared I had some immunocompromised situation going on as everyone seemed sure antivirals would fix it and they just didn't but maybe I just need to be more patient.

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