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concernedchild · 20/03/2024 08:47

I'm 24, I live at home (I know this will attract a lot of criticism but I cannot afford to move out).

I earn £1300 a month after tax etc.

After saving for professional exams (I have to pay for them, I get no help from work) I'm left with £650 per month. Of this I have to pay for uni, all my own expenses and travel to work, as well as other savings.

I'm left with about £75 at the end of each month. From this £75 I contribute what I can to the house but it's not a lot. I feel like a failure. If my friends ask to meet up I have to say no because I can't afford it.

Travel alone is £200 per month. I can't make it any cheaper. Uni is £100 per month. My expenses aren't extravagant - I'm paying for my uni course, my phone, Spotify etc., I'm not spending hundreds on my nails or getting sun beds or anything like that.

I want to approach my parents and ask for some help with the exams but I feel like a total failure for even having to ask. The plan when I moved in after uni was for me to save up and move out, but I had to move company and took a pay cut. I can't relocate my job (I'm on a training contract and I'm unlikely to get another one).

I feel like I'm sinking. I'm working for basically nothing, I can't afford to grab a coffee on my lunch break or even go out at the weekends. I'm trying my hardest to get by but it's having such an effect on me mentally that I feel like giving up and quitting my job all together to find something in a supermarket that's better paid.

Am I being unreasonable to ask them for help? I don't expect them to say yes, I'm expecting them to say no, but I feel like I'm at my wits end. I don't see a point in anything because I feel like I'm wasting my time working and not getting anywhere financially, I feel like I'm behind my peers and I just can't do it anymore

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concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:07

Manthide · 20/03/2024 17:05

It depends on your parents circumstances. They are already subsidising you be providing accommodation, food and electricity, gas and water. What do students do whose parents can't do that? I couldn't afford to do it for my dc as I'm on universal credit. When ds comes home from university he has to get a job to help me pay for extra food etc. I only ask for £30 a week during the small vacations but I do need it.

My parents financial circumstances are very different to your current circumstances. As I've said, if I knew they couldn't afford it I wouldn't even dream of asking. My parents are very well off.

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Onceuponatimeiwasahoe · 20/03/2024 17:07

Sorry meant to say picked myself up by 26

Onceuponatimeiwasahoe · 20/03/2024 17:06

You're only 24 give yourself a break. I had a mental breakdown at 24 then was fine at 26

Manthide · 20/03/2024 17:05

It depends on your parents circumstances. They are already subsidising you be providing accommodation, food and electricity, gas and water. What do students do whose parents can't do that? I couldn't afford to do it for my dc as I'm on universal credit. When ds comes home from university he has to get a job to help me pay for extra food etc. I only ask for £30 a week during the small vacations but I do need it.

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:04

Rosesanddaisies1 · 20/03/2024 17:02

I wouldn't be worrying about saving for now, as others have said, you'll have a good salary soon and you can make up for it. Could you look at getting a professional development loan to cover your course?

As I've said, MULTIPLE TIMES, the interest on a bank loan would sink me.

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user1471600850 · 20/03/2024 17:03

Honestly some of you don't Know what you are talking about - how about supporting/offering help to her rather than banging on about why is she funding , etc. My son worked in a law firm as Para Legal and funded his own Masters. He is now doing his TC but still gets paid not a lot more than when he was a PL. As soon as he qualities this will go up significantly. Try and get your facts right and she isnt asking for advice on mimimum wage or what she should or shouldnt be earning but rather whether she is being unreasonable to ask her parents for help, which if they are open to and can then she is not. She has a plan to pay it back. Well done Op and hope everything works out well and you go on to soar!

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:03

@DriftingDora I work full time.

@tkwal yeah I'm looking at all tax aspects - they can apparently loan to me tax free, but interest may attract tax - contribution to household expenses seems to be tax free and therefore may be a way around the interest payments. The cost of the loan would be more than the £3k IHT threshold and so that's why I'm asking for it as a loan as opposed to a gift (I'd also feel horrifically guilty if I was gifted such a large sum of money)

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Rosesanddaisies1 · 20/03/2024 17:02

I wouldn't be worrying about saving for now, as others have said, you'll have a good salary soon and you can make up for it. Could you look at getting a professional development loan to cover your course?

SpoonieMum19 · 20/03/2024 17:02

Good luck OP. I’ve been where you are and it’s tough. Worth it in the end but still tough and much tougher than most people expect who haven’t experienced it. 💕

tkwal · 20/03/2024 17:01

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 15:13

This is my proposed repayment plan x

You didn't need to send that but I'm even more impressed now.
Since another poster mentioned tax..
If they are in a position to do so, they are allowed to gift £3000 in any tax year to you (or any siblings)with no tax implications. It might (depending on their tax status) save them money. If they use an accountant they could advise them on that

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:01

@DriftingDora the SQE is very popular and frankly oversubscribed. There is no guarantee I will end up at a test centre within 100 miles of my home.

I was aware of the costs. As I have said multiple times before, I was not aware that the firm I was with would close, and I would be left taking whatever was available to me.

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DriftingDora · 20/03/2024 17:00

Myotheripodisayoto · 20/03/2024 09:03

Im confused about your sums.

If its a first degree you should be able to access student finance.

If its the law school part after the degree, you are supposed to get a training contract and the firm pay the law school costs.

If no one was willing to give you a training contract, you've taken a huge risk paying the fees without the employment. If you've agreed to a training contract without them funding your LPC you are a fool, easily parted from your money.

There are too many law students around, the good ones who will survive, are not paying for their LPC themselves.

I'm also confused about what the OP says. OP, you must know the cost of your course and how much the exams will cost? These things are not kept secret, students are told and warned that the fees are likely to increase each year. Surely there's also a list of the exam centres, so you could work out roughly how much it would cost to travel to an (nearest) exam centre? And how much are you putting into "savings" - and can you afford to do so while you are studying? Have you investigated whether you're entitled to any help with fees/exam fees? If not, why not? Do you have a holiday job to earn a bit more?

Hiddendoor · 20/03/2024 16:52

It sounds like you are trying to do too much with your salary when you are still starting out/not fully qualified.

It's good you are asking for help. But be realistic with your money.
Your salary needs to cover

  1. Travel to work
  2. Socialising
  3. Repayment of loan at a rate that is reasonable (£100 a month is fine, then £200 once you've qualified and earning more)
  4. Living expenses like clothing, food, toiletries and so on
  5. If anything left over, save it. Don't cripple yourself with savings right now.

I have no clue about law and exams. But just remember you don't have to pay for hotels and laptops all at once right now.

You have come across as someone trying so hard to be financially responsible and doing everything on their own that you've forgotten that life doesn't have to be a struggle - ease up on yourself a little. Take some time away from studying - relaxing for an evening or weekend away from the books makes you more likely to be able to focus and study another day.

My sister failed professional exams twice. She basically stopped seeing her friends and punished herself every night with the course books and it badly backfired. Third time around she out less pressure on herself and passed.

Hope it goes well with your parents. Good luck for the future too!

Helpisso · 20/03/2024 16:51

We funded our daughter for her MA and she has now qualified in a decent profession. Absolutely money well spent which we were glad to do .
Definitely ask for help and hopefully they will be happy to accommodate.
You are not a failure!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 20/03/2024 16:50

I hope your chat goes well, OP. Try not to focus on the responses from the posters who are relishing calling you 'foolish' when they don't know your situation, and trying to make you feel less than. You're working towards a career and you shouldn't be struggling to the point where you have nothing left each month because the next expense would tip you over.

I suspect your parents know fine well that you're short of money but as you've never said, and they're only charging you/or you're giving them £75 per month, it shouldn't come as a surprise that you need a helping hand.

Good luck, be methodical with your figures as you have been and best wishes to you.

NotAgainBrian · 20/03/2024 16:48

You seem lovely, and very considerate of your parents. I'm sure they will want to help you. My kids are teens but once they're at uni etc, I will always help them out however I can. I'd hate to think of them worrying over money like you have been doing. I'm not massively financially well off myself but I'd always want to help my kids. I hope the conversation goes well with your parents and they're able to help you!

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 16:46

@NoBinturongsHereMate that's something we'll decide tonight when we talk, it's just my suggestion

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/03/2024 16:45

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 16:43

@NoBinturongsHereMate as a down payment towards the loan, to show my commitment to paying it back

You nake downpayments on physical items, not on loans. It makes no sense to make a downpayment on money.

Kelta · 20/03/2024 16:45

Myotheripodisayoto · 20/03/2024 16:42

Honestly, i know i might come across as blunt, but its a simple maths question.

If you have incurred a lot of debt to take a degree, study for SQE/LPC, you are not getting any return on that investment if you then go and work earning minimum wage.

The kind of firm that's paying a graduate minimum wage, you have to ask yourself, if the long term earning potential there is going to actually repay the time & money you've invested to get qualified.

It saddens me to see people selling themselves short. No graduate should be accepting minimum wage work as anything more than a stop gap.

Back in the day it was also very common to be paid law society minimum as a trainee. I was paid £10,250 a year.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/03/2024 16:44

And also your parents to help look at your budget, as well as asking for the loan. There may well be areas you can improve (like cancelling Spotify).

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 16:44

Myotheripodisayoto · 20/03/2024 16:42

Honestly, i know i might come across as blunt, but its a simple maths question.

If you have incurred a lot of debt to take a degree, study for SQE/LPC, you are not getting any return on that investment if you then go and work earning minimum wage.

The kind of firm that's paying a graduate minimum wage, you have to ask yourself, if the long term earning potential there is going to actually repay the time & money you've invested to get qualified.

It saddens me to see people selling themselves short. No graduate should be accepting minimum wage work as anything more than a stop gap.

It's a stop gap until I qualify

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Kelta · 20/03/2024 16:44

*Myotheripodisayoto · Today 09:05

Literally the only person i know who self funded their law school never got a training contract. It had been a complete waste of 10k.*

Back in my day if you didn't go to a large firm which covered your fees you got a career development loan. You then paid that back once you qualified. It was very common.

So I self funded. I now earn £350k a year. So I'm pretty sure it wasn't a complete waste of £10k. HTH.

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 16:43

@NoBinturongsHereMate as a down payment towards the loan, to show my commitment to paying it back

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Myotheripodisayoto · 20/03/2024 16:42

Honestly, i know i might come across as blunt, but its a simple maths question.

If you have incurred a lot of debt to take a degree, study for SQE/LPC, you are not getting any return on that investment if you then go and work earning minimum wage.

The kind of firm that's paying a graduate minimum wage, you have to ask yourself, if the long term earning potential there is going to actually repay the time & money you've invested to get qualified.

It saddens me to see people selling themselves short. No graduate should be accepting minimum wage work as anything more than a stop gap.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/03/2024 16:41

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 13:41

To those who don't think I'm being a spoilt little brat by asking for this, is this repayment schedule okay? I've put it to my parents that I'll pay on this schedule with two payments of interest - midway through the loan and at the end, which amount to 15% of the total loan

I don't understand your first line - why is the 1st month's repayment larger? Wouldn't it make more sense to just borrow £250 less, rather than borrowing it and then paying it straight back?