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concernedchild · 20/03/2024 08:47

I'm 24, I live at home (I know this will attract a lot of criticism but I cannot afford to move out).

I earn £1300 a month after tax etc.

After saving for professional exams (I have to pay for them, I get no help from work) I'm left with £650 per month. Of this I have to pay for uni, all my own expenses and travel to work, as well as other savings.

I'm left with about £75 at the end of each month. From this £75 I contribute what I can to the house but it's not a lot. I feel like a failure. If my friends ask to meet up I have to say no because I can't afford it.

Travel alone is £200 per month. I can't make it any cheaper. Uni is £100 per month. My expenses aren't extravagant - I'm paying for my uni course, my phone, Spotify etc., I'm not spending hundreds on my nails or getting sun beds or anything like that.

I want to approach my parents and ask for some help with the exams but I feel like a total failure for even having to ask. The plan when I moved in after uni was for me to save up and move out, but I had to move company and took a pay cut. I can't relocate my job (I'm on a training contract and I'm unlikely to get another one).

I feel like I'm sinking. I'm working for basically nothing, I can't afford to grab a coffee on my lunch break or even go out at the weekends. I'm trying my hardest to get by but it's having such an effect on me mentally that I feel like giving up and quitting my job all together to find something in a supermarket that's better paid.

Am I being unreasonable to ask them for help? I don't expect them to say yes, I'm expecting them to say no, but I feel like I'm at my wits end. I don't see a point in anything because I feel like I'm wasting my time working and not getting anywhere financially, I feel like I'm behind my peers and I just can't do it anymore

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GnomeDePlume · 20/03/2024 18:00

6pence · 20/03/2024 17:35

Why don’t you also show them a spreadsheet of your income and expenses so they understand exactly how difficult it is for you, as well as the repayment plan.
Good luck. Don’t feel guilty. Parents are supposed to help fund their kids study. They should have topped your minimum loan up to the maximum loan each year. Thats what the government expects when they calculate the loan amount. Obviously some parents can’t afford it at all, but it sounds like yours could, and they should have. It’s not easy for many parents to find the money but most try to help if we can.

Maybe you’ve been too good at hiding how difficult you’ve found it. Accept any help offered tonight. Even if they offer to give it to you. Don’t feel guilty. It’s only what is expected from the government(albeit it is further study not your first degree).

I agree with this. My DDs got minimum loan and we topped up the rest. To me, it was one of my obligations as a parent. We also paid for things like driving lessons.

If we couldn't afford something then we explained what we could afford.

My DCs are in their mid 20s and we still happily help out with things.

I wonder if your parents are a little under-informed about how things work now? Do they know how your training contract works or how much taking these exams costs?

My parents were very much stuck in the past. They wouldnt have understood how expensive it could be to take exams in another city.

Your DF's response suggests they have seen you stressed and have been worrying about you but didn't like to ask what the problem was.

Imtiredthisyear · 20/03/2024 17:58

Honestly I would be surprised if they didn’t just gift it to you, I would if I were in their position.

Your working hard, setting yourself up for life, It’s not like your wasting money.

You deserve a basic standard of living which you currently don’t have, their your parents, they should be supporting you if they can.

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:50

@iwafs just the thought of what it could do to family dynamics if it was to come out

@diddl they would help at the end of term etc., when I didn't have money to get home

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diddl · 20/03/2024 17:48

If they are such high earners that you get no/little student grant(?) surely they should be paying certain costs for you?

iwafs · 20/03/2024 17:47

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:32

The thought of asking for this as a gift makes me feel sick to my stomach. I have no doubt it all evens out across the years across the four siblings but the thought of it is just gross to me

You don't need to ask for it as a gift. You can just lay it out and ask for their help.

Why does it make you feel gross? I think it's gross for 2 people to be sat on pots of money whilst their child suffers serious financial hardship. Your parents might feel the same.

LavenderPup · 20/03/2024 17:43

I think your parents would be upset that you didn’t talk to them sooner. They are in a position to able to help and you are not being unreasonable at all. It’s a good worthwhile career you are studying for and I’m sure they’re very proud.

As for hotel expenses esp train fares book in advance as soon as you know the dates location, they will be much cheaper.

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:41

BrendaSmall · 20/03/2024 17:38

Can’t you get student loans?

I get a loan for the bulk of my masters, and I have to cover the shortfall. I can't get a loan for my exams because it would sink me

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BrendaSmall · 20/03/2024 17:38

Can’t you get student loans?

6pence · 20/03/2024 17:35

Why don’t you also show them a spreadsheet of your income and expenses so they understand exactly how difficult it is for you, as well as the repayment plan.
Good luck. Don’t feel guilty. Parents are supposed to help fund their kids study. They should have topped your minimum loan up to the maximum loan each year. Thats what the government expects when they calculate the loan amount. Obviously some parents can’t afford it at all, but it sounds like yours could, and they should have. It’s not easy for many parents to find the money but most try to help if we can.

Maybe you’ve been too good at hiding how difficult you’ve found it. Accept any help offered tonight. Even if they offer to give it to you. Don’t feel guilty. It’s only what is expected from the government(albeit it is further study not your first degree).

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:32

iwafs · 20/03/2024 17:28

OP, in your parents' position with hundreds of thousands of pounds, I would 100% sort you out. I would simply pay all your course fees and exam fees and charge you nothing for living at home. I hope they help you - and not with a loan - with a big gift. I wouldn't sit on all that money whilst my child was miserable and couldn't afford to even see friends.

You need to lay out all your costs and entire financial situation, rather than asking them for a loan.

The thought of asking for this as a gift makes me feel sick to my stomach. I have no doubt it all evens out across the years across the four siblings but the thought of it is just gross to me

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Fiftiesishard · 20/03/2024 17:29

I haven't read every reply but just wanted to compliment you OP. Please don't feel like a failure - thats the last thing you should feel.

What people outside of law don't realise is that training contracts are like gold dust. There are so many law graduates all fighting for TCs that you've done amazingly well to get not just the initial one but the replacement.

I'd also agree that people have no idea how difficult it is at the start of a law degree - even when I graduated only the top law firms paid for courses so regional / high street trainees had to find £8k + living expenses for the LPC (back in the late 90s - that was alot of money), and then starting salaries for trainees were lower than most other similar professions.

Well done for approaching your parents OP and good luck with the conversation. I would also see if there is any scope to speak to your employer. As other parents have said, I would hate to know my DD was struggling and you do need to open up to them about your predicament - I bet they are incredibly proud of you and this conversation will lead to better communication all round xx

iwafs · 20/03/2024 17:28

OP, in your parents' position with hundreds of thousands of pounds, I would 100% sort you out. I would simply pay all your course fees and exam fees and charge you nothing for living at home. I hope they help you - and not with a loan - with a big gift. I wouldn't sit on all that money whilst my child was miserable and couldn't afford to even see friends.

You need to lay out all your costs and entire financial situation, rather than asking them for a loan.

Manthide · 20/03/2024 17:28

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:07

My parents financial circumstances are very different to your current circumstances. As I've said, if I knew they couldn't afford it I wouldn't even dream of asking. My parents are very well off.

I did my LLB in the early 80s and spent 9 months working for Allen &Overy as an intern (it was a sandwich degree). I then did a PGDL in about 2002 as it was rusty (I lived abroad for about 10 years) whilst working as a legal clerk. Ultimately I decided not to carry on with law though I passed the PGDL as I didn't really enjoy working for a small firm. My elder dds do help me out sometimes but I always pay back promptly.
If I were your parents and had money I would probably pay for your exam outright as it's part of your education. Dd1 is a gynaecologist and she has to pay for her own exams but she's never mentioned them being so expensive. Also she's in her 30s and left home years ago so a different story.

DriftingDora · 20/03/2024 17:25

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:11

@DriftingDora it does. I live in a small town, a train ticket can be £50/£100. I may not be at an exam centre close to my home, so may need hotels etc. the exams are spread over two days (and in two weeks) for the first exam and over 3 days (again spread out over a number of weeks) in the second exam period. That could end up costing me £1000.

Study leave is unpaid, so I will be losing pay for each day of study leave, but still having to find the money for the exams and travel.

You can think I'm trying to swindle my parents out of £5k, but I'm not. I've presented a repayment plan and I'm happy to sign a loan agreement.

You can think I'm trying to swindle my parents out of £5k, but I'm not.

Er, where exactly did I say this? Please tell me - but of course you won't be able to, because I didn't. 🙄

If you are training to be a solicitor, you will be asked much more searching questions by the other side, so it might be an idea not to jump to wrong conclusions or put words in people's mouths. That won't end well.

Tahinii · 20/03/2024 17:24

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 13:12

@Tahinii I can sense the tone in your comment lol.

I've never once asked them for anything. Yes they're housing me, because they know plain and simple that I wouldn't be able to afford to move out. I don't expect expensive food or anything like that. I'm not asking for a handout, but a loan. That I will pay back.

No no! Not at all!
So sorry it came across that way.
I did post up thread saying you should ask and I’d want my daughter to ask. I just don’t think your parents are actively being unkind. Perhaps genuinely they are naive and thoughtless.
it’s clear you’re working very hard and have a plan. I’d absolutely help my daughter in these circumstances and I’d be proud of you. :)

Cesarina · 20/03/2024 17:22

@concernedchild
PLEASE, please don't see yourself as a failure at the absolutely ancient age of 24! (I'm joking about the ancient of course).
My son was working and living independently in another city, but came home to live with us in his early 30's because of health issues he needed help with. He worried about what people would think of him, but I didn't give a toss as long as he was ok. I hate people who prescribe that adult children have no right to be living with their parents, as if that makes them defective or failures in some way. Things happen, circumstances change, and I'm glad we could help as he is on his way to being independent again.
Different circumstances to yours, but it was the fact that you felt a failure for still living at home that made me want to say, "no, you're not".

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:17

DisforDarkChocolate · 20/03/2024 17:16

Does your university have a hardship fund?

Not that I'm aware of, it's ULaw and I don't think I'd qualify as I live at home

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DisforDarkChocolate · 20/03/2024 17:16

Does your university have a hardship fund?

Okisenough · 20/03/2024 17:15

As a parent of adult children, I know how hard it is out there for your generation, nothing is cheap. I am more than sure your parents will want to know and want to help you. They would much rather alleviate the financial strain on you than watch you suffer mentally and give it all up. Also sending you a big hug, you are not failure, you have a lot of things on your plate and you are doing your best. Please ask your parents for help.

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:14

mydamnfootstuckinthedoor · 20/03/2024 17:13

"Spotify etc"? Get rid of Spotify for starters! And "etc"? how much is that? ok, these are minimal expenses but have you ever heard of the saying "Look after the pennies ..."?

Spotify is £10.99 a month and I pay £2.99 a month for my Apple iCloud to store all my study notes. With the best will in the world I don't think £13.98 a month will solve my problems

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mydamnfootstuckinthedoor · 20/03/2024 17:13

"Spotify etc"? Get rid of Spotify for starters! And "etc"? how much is that? ok, these are minimal expenses but have you ever heard of the saying "Look after the pennies ..."?

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:12

Doone22 · 20/03/2024 17:09

I got professional development loan for mine

Again. The interest would sink me.

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concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:11

@DriftingDora it does. I live in a small town, a train ticket can be £50/£100. I may not be at an exam centre close to my home, so may need hotels etc. the exams are spread over two days (and in two weeks) for the first exam and over 3 days (again spread out over a number of weeks) in the second exam period. That could end up costing me £1000.

Study leave is unpaid, so I will be losing pay for each day of study leave, but still having to find the money for the exams and travel.

You can think I'm trying to swindle my parents out of £5k, but I'm not. I've presented a repayment plan and I'm happy to sign a loan agreement.

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Doone22 · 20/03/2024 17:09

I got professional development loan for mine

DriftingDora · 20/03/2024 17:08

concernedchild · 20/03/2024 17:01

@DriftingDora the SQE is very popular and frankly oversubscribed. There is no guarantee I will end up at a test centre within 100 miles of my home.

I was aware of the costs. As I have said multiple times before, I was not aware that the firm I was with would close, and I would be left taking whatever was available to me.

Doesn't really answer my questions, does it?