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AIBU to feel that some parents just want their children at Uni even if its a BS degree

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 20:57

Hello
I come from a background/culture where education is seen as very important and going to a university is a must (My parents came to England in 1962)

Yes, more and more jobs are seeking degrees and often even when not necessary. There are many professions where you must have a degree to join the course training

However, what I and my family call BS degrees, to name but a few

Arts
Studio Fine arts
Arth History
Business studies
Exercise Science
Fashion

I cant see what jobs they will get as there must be other routes, less intensive and extensive to get the job they want

When I've talked about mickey-mouse degrees at parties etc and not be aware that some parents children or they may have studied them, they start to defend the indefensible.
The biggest bS degree is 'Politics' - WTH!! Sadly, we know a few people whose children have done that and ended up running the family shop/business - total waste of a degree

There are other degrees just as crappy - they should be banned IMO

AIBU to think these degrees are a waste of time and often do not aid the person into a job in that field?

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Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:46

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:45

Any degree?

If so, how would Media studies get you a job if you lived in Stoke in Trent?

Taking medical degree would on the other hand, open the door to a mass of job opputuines..

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Ah wise up, it's a very small proportion of students that will meet the strict criteria for Medicine!!!

You could take Media Studies, and you know, move out of Stoke on Trent?!!!

titchy · 19/03/2024 22:45

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:40

The degrees mentioned below lead to a very good chance of getting a job in the field you studied for

  1. Medicine & dentistry – 99%.
  2. Veterinary Science – 98%.
  3. Subjects allied to medicine – 93%.
  4. Architecture, building & planning – 92%.
  5. Education – 90%.
  6. Engineering & technology – 85%.
  7. Computer Science – 80%.
  8. Mathematical sciences – 79%.
  9. Business studies – 75%.
  10. Law – 74%.
https://coursefindr.co.uk/degrees/articles/top-ten-employable-degrees/

That article doesn't say what you think it says. Read it more carefully. Do you really think there's a Maths 'industry' in the UK? Or that the majority of Law grads are solicitors or barristers?

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:45

Well you are a complete fool because my DC1's degree is an Arts degree, but they work in Education.

Sibling has a Law degree but hasn't ever worked in a legal capacity. Is my sibling superior to me with my Arts degree??!

What a crock of shit! Not everyone is the same, and there's room in the world for people with all sorts of skills and interests.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:45

3luckystars · 19/03/2024 22:43

I disagree and think a degree is a huge achievement.

Any degree?

If so, how would Media studies get you a job if you lived in Stoke in Trent?

Taking medical degree would on the other hand, open the door to a mass of job opputuines..

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NotTodayJesus · 19/03/2024 22:44

asdasdasdsadad · 19/03/2024 22:06

@NotTodayJesus I'd love to come to work with you! Sadly, my job is not that exciting.
Video game design friend has promised to bring me to the studio one day, and I have been on a couple of film sets as an extra so not that bad I guess :D

Sounds like you're at least having fun, even if it's not your career!

Unlike the OP who wouldn't have a clue on how to do a walk on as an extra or have fun.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 19/03/2024 22:44

Please list all of your academic qualifications and income before continuing.

I think that would be very helpful.

Business studies which encompasses law, accounting, economics, marketing, data analysis- ya completely useless!

titchy · 19/03/2024 22:43

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

Wouldn't make a difference. Most grad schemes that banks, accountancy, corporates run have their initial sift automated - as long as you have the 2:1 degree, or on track to gain such, you make the next stage. Then it's on your ability and performance in the numerous further recruitment stages.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:43

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:38

You do realise that plenty of careers just want a degree, and not any specific one?

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Do I need to be Einstein to have worked that one out?

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3luckystars · 19/03/2024 22:43

I disagree and think a degree is a huge achievement.

BubziOwl · 19/03/2024 22:40

I'm always amazed at how proudly and loudly people will say that they don't see the point in degrees that don't lead to a well paying job.

What exactly do you think a university is, OP? How do you think universities measure their own success?

Chanxex · 19/03/2024 22:40

In what world is a politics degree useless? It’s almost impossible to work in politics / policy, and I don’t mean as an MP, without it. It’s also incredibly well regarded for law accountancy and mgt consultancy.

mother of a politics student who did a year in industry working for a think tank and went back into their final year with a signed job offer, starting salary £45k.

ghostyslovesheets · 19/03/2024 22:40

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:38

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

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Why would somebody who wants to work in media or Art be aiming to work in a bank?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:40

The degrees mentioned below lead to a very good chance of getting a job in the field you studied for

  1. Medicine & dentistry – 99%.
  2. Veterinary Science – 98%.
  3. Subjects allied to medicine – 93%.
  4. Architecture, building & planning – 92%.
  5. Education – 90%.
  6. Engineering & technology – 85%.
  7. Computer Science – 80%.
  8. Mathematical sciences – 79%.
  9. Business studies – 75%.
  10. Law – 74%.
https://coursefindr.co.uk/degrees/articles/top-ten-employable-degrees/

Top 10 Most Employable Degrees | Coursefindr

Read more about choosing degrees with high employability in mind and which courses have the best post-graduation employment rates.

https://coursefindr.co.uk/degrees/articles/top-ten-employable-degrees/#3

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Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:40

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:38

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

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It would totally depend on how good a candidate you are. For someone who (over)rates themselves so highly, I would have thought you would have known that!

ghostyslovesheets · 19/03/2024 22:39

Ifallelsefailschocolate · 19/03/2024 22:36

ghostyslovesheets · Today 22:30

vodkaredbullgirl · Today 22:30

Uni of life, couldn't afford to go to proper uni.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Not that I’m taunting anyone who experienced adversity or anything

I think you may have missed my point there - but if it helps I left home at 17 and worked, self supported at uni for 4 years at 22 and now support care experienced young people into education - my response was to the poster quoting the OP

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:38

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:35

Thank you for sharing that lovely experience
However, you've missed the boat. The point of my thread is that not every degree around is good as the next
What is the point of a degree when there may be little chance of getting a job in that field?

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You do realise that plenty of careers just want a degree, and not any specific one?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:38

titchy · 19/03/2024 22:34

the degrees in my OP and Media studies often lead to no job in that sector and people end up doing something else, so why waste your time?

Out of interest why do you think a degree is valuable only if it leads to a job in the same field?

The majority of graduate jobs don't need a specific degree so why do you place such importance on the subject?

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

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TrixieFatell · 19/03/2024 22:37

"values education"
Slags off people getting an education

BobbyBiscuits · 19/03/2024 22:37

You don't value anything that isn't science, finance, engineering or law related?
Do you buy furniture, home decor, watch films, shows, plays, listen to music, enjoy culture, wear clothes, listen to podcasts, the radio, ever read a book? If not then I guess I can understand why you see no value in the arts.

Ifallelsefailschocolate · 19/03/2024 22:36

ghostyslovesheets · Today 22:30

vodkaredbullgirl · Today 22:30

Uni of life, couldn't afford to go to proper uni.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Not that I’m taunting anyone who experienced adversity or anything

HighLlamas · 19/03/2024 22:36

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:35

Thank you for sharing that lovely experience
However, you've missed the boat. The point of my thread is that not every degree around is good as the next
What is the point of a degree when there may be little chance of getting a job in that field?

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People go to university to learn?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:35

DancefloorAcrobatics · 19/03/2024 22:32

I took my DS once to a place that I called museum of floating art, as he was ademant that art was useless - especially fine arts! So he was very reluctant to go. Oh boy, he quickly changed his mind! Because there is nothing more he loves than vintage aeroplanes and zeppelins! @DistinguishedSocialCommentator without arts or business studies, even fashion, we are unable to celebrate human innovation. We'd still live in caves and eat raw meat. Maybe it's time to revise your list of useless degree courses.

Thank you for sharing that lovely experience
However, you've missed the boat. The point of my thread is that not every degree around is good as the next
What is the point of a degree when there may be little chance of getting a job in that field?

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titchy · 19/03/2024 22:34

the degrees in my OP and Media studies often lead to no job in that sector and people end up doing something else, so why waste your time?

Out of interest why do you think a degree is valuable only if it leads to a job in the same field?

The majority of graduate jobs don't need a specific degree so why do you place such importance on the subject?

murasaki · 19/03/2024 22:34

I think it's terribly sad that these days the degree is only worth what the job is later.
I say that as a classics graduate, which gave so many transferable skills, but I accept that having Cambridge on the certificate helped. There are too many people going to university for spurious reasons because jobs that didn't require degrees as entry points are now doing so. I wouldn't change a second of my UG time.

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:33

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:30

I too can swear but its not my style. I was taught by my parents and this was reinforced at school and uni, to "swear. it shows you've lost the debate/argument."

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I've always read that swearing is a sign of intelligence. Something that you clearly lack!

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