AIBU to feel that some parents just want their children at Uni even if its a BS degree

I am starting to feel sorry for this chap

Personally I would like my own kids to go to uni but I’m in Scotland and the financial burden is very low . I studied in England and those saying oh you only pay once you start working , yes true but it’s still a big chunk of money in my case £300 q month so yes I do believe people. Should not do Mickey Mouse degrees just for the university experience because the being up 60 k in debt is not to e taken lightly. Thankfully in my case was worth it but for many even on the same path as me it was not .

Thnak you for the figures so you are in debt of lets say 30k and once you start earning peanuts, plus salt, you start paying off your debts. What about the rent/mortgage/fod/travel etc.

Do you knowhow much to lean repayments actually are? A graduate on a starting salary of £30k would be paying back £16 a month. If their salary drops below the repayment threshold then they stop.

You may not be aware but living in London or daily travel gives a greater chance to a job of choice and possibilities of good pay and that is a fact. London is the centre of jobs but please feel free to disagree with me.

I do disagree with you. and so do the facts....this just simply not true. London is not the 'centre of jobs'. I attended a training session just last week on graduate employability by the country's leading expert on this data. He made a huge point about this being the biggest myth when it comes to graduate employability. In fact, for fashion and marketing jobs then you should head to Manchester.

I lived in London years ago and you couldn't pay me to live there now!!!

If some people are so dissatisfied with the loan/fee system, are they lobbying for a change? Rather than an abandonment of third level eduction? There are other models.

Well bully for them.

I can only hope they're not as arrogant and insufferable as you are coming across.

I would have been beyond devastated if any of my children had left school at the tender age of 16.

I have 2 science degrees (bachelors and masters). DP has an arts degree and he earns double what I do.

The grammar and spelling mistakes are done on purpose I think.

There is no consistency in the type of mistake made. If they were genuinely dyslexic (for example) or had any kind of cognitive disorder, they would be.

I'd say it's done for effect. It's noticeable that sometimes posts are perfectly well written, and other times not.

I think the chip on shoulder comes from the fact that @DistinguishedSocialCommentator didn't go to university.

(Although they are yet to clarify why they said they did on this thread, yet left education at 18 on another- despite having been kindly asked to clear up the confusion several times)

We've heard about the 3 amazing children and their stellar careers about 89 times on this thread alone, yet the OP seems strangely reluctant to tell us about her own education, although of course, it's pretty easy to extrapolate both from this thread and others, that there was very little of it.

It was alive and kicking 2/3 years ago in London! It made me so cross! Such exploitation.

As it happens so do I so hope you aren’t offended! Which I think is why I picked it

Learning doesn’t have to be vocational. It’s unfortunate that tuition fees etc have made it so you have to justify the cost with income.

Unlike many that go to uni, no work, end up with a degree that cant get them a job and a massive debt to burden them even before they have started out in life

Define 'Many'......
All the research shows that graduates are less likely to be unemployed, if they do lose their job they find employment quicker than a non graduate and are more likely to earn more over their lifetime. This more stark for women and people from lower socio economics backgrounds.

i think most of us concede that a fine art or politics degree from Oxbridge outranks for example a law degree from an old Polytechnic

I don't. I did a law degree from an ex poly and it has stood me in good stead for practising law.

I'm sure doing a degree at Oxford or Cambridge (had that been possible) would have launched my legal career quicker or given me different choices. But it never seemed like a serious option to someone like me. Besides which we simply couldn't have afforded for me to go somewhere I wasn't allowed to get a term time job and I wouldn't have wanted to put in the amount of study required. Plus I'd have had to also do a law conversion course = more expense which was unaffordable.

No-one in my family had been to university before, so just going to university seemed such an incredible opportunity for me. Much of what university someone attended is linked to social class and background, much more so than any natural ability.

I could take you more seriously if your grammar and spelling were better.

what does London have to do with it - I do live in London/Surrey suburbs but not all graduates do

Exactly.
In fact it's one of the biggest myths with regards graduate employment.
Graduates either stay in the place they studied or move back home.
Very, very few move to a completely new place.

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator it starts at 27660 and comes out as a tax, any bonuses etc get taxed as well

what does London have to do with it - I do live in London/Surrey suburbs but not all graduates do

Not everyone lives in London (or wants to).

My employer’s graduate scheme starts at well over average salary. It’s accessible with any degree from any university - not sure what the minimum grade is. I interview for the scheme occasionally and we definitely don’t discriminate on the degree or the university. So that’s some evidence against your assertion that some degrees are bullshit.

I think you might actually have a chip on your shoulder about some of your kids not going to university and are ‘protesting too much’.

You don’t have to answer but are you from the Indian subcontinent? I am from a similar background and have seen communities like that where relatives bitch and gossip about others’ kids and who earns what.

I think most of us @DistinguishedSocialCommentator recognise the fact that there is Oxbridge (which by the way does a whole lot of the degrees you spoke about in your first post) Russell Group universities, then Universities then the old Polytechnics and degrees from then are rated differently.

i think most of us concede that a fine art or politics degree from Oxbridge outranks for example a law degree from an old Polytechnic.

the actual argument you have about degrees does have merit. Your choice of degrees does not and potentially ignores the fact that some simply go for the experience to increase the number of years being a student and having fun before entering the real world of work

So what is the "certain amount" ??
is it 50k, 60k 100k - what is it.

£27,660

So just for that you go to uni and possibly end up with an almost worthless degree as you cant get job and to add to the burden, possibly a massive debt of 30k - all for what

You really need to start providing evidence for this statement.

If you are going to uni, go for something you know can be utilised in other sectors and many jobs around with super pay scales

Where did you gain your qualifications in career development? What makes you think everyone is motivated by super pay scales ?