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To ask how much is in your pension pot and your contribution %

213 replies

Vistada · 19/03/2024 11:38

Just that really?

I'm starting to put a lot of thought into my pension (something that in my 20s I thought just ticked over) but its difficult to get a good gauge of what one should have saved.

WIBU to ask (if you're happy to share) your age, salary, pot size and what you contribute per month in %?

Me: 33, £23k pot, £55k PA (only recently) and joint 13%

OP posts:
candyisdandybutliquorisquicker · 19/03/2024 16:01

SallysLeftCheek · 19/03/2024 13:17

Those of you saying it isn't enough ( a lot of those seem to have hundreds of thousands in the pot) what is it not enough for?

I'm one of the posters with a bigger pot than average but who's saying it's not enough.

Bluntly, I need it to fully pay for my own retirement plus my spouse. At average life expectancy I need a pot significantly higher than I'm currently building so will ramp it up once small DC are older to give it a boost.

Compare that to the poster on page 1 who has a £10k pot in her mid 50s who's paying zero. She's smart. That's exactly what I'd be doing if I weren't a mid-high ish earner in my 30s.if you have little time to build up a pension pot in the UK, or have many many years out of work due to illness or caring responsibility, there's no point going half in. Gov pension plus non means tested top ups mean those in the middle get fucked over, just like when they were working.

You either need to blast a hole by charging your pension to a scary number in the UK or don't build any really significant pot and let the government deal with it once you reach state retirement age.

You could argue that those building no real pension will face poverty and it's definitely something I wouldn't seek myself. But I have a choice. And time to build the pot. That's crucial.

I work in a field where this calculated risk/reward optimisation is what I'm paid to do.

My comments here are fairly ruthless. and the current tax system in this country incentivises this view, if people were to act in a truly rational manner. It's amazing any middle earners pay a penny into their pension.

So: my view= good for an individual.
Longer term, likely to bankrupt the country when all those people who didn't build up pensions themselves all start looking to the DWP for their monthly income and there are fewer workers to pay for it all.

My advice for the next 10-20 years is to milk it. Or push past the threshold where you're penalised for building the pension pot.

Don't be in the middle.

Such an interesting (though depressing!) insight. I actually hadn't considered it from that angle.

Theres something very wrong with a system that rewards people who don't contribute.

candyisdandybutliquorisquicker · 19/03/2024 15:55

I'm late 40s and have about $350k in my work retirement plan plus about $130k in an IRA (in the US.) I earn six figures and put in the max contribution to my employer plan (about $25k a year I think.) My husband has about $900k, thankfully - we have three kids to put through college!

mondaycando1 · 19/03/2024 15:51

50, earning £44kpa but a good few years of child rearing / part-time work mean my pot is under £40k, (though am due to receive a good chunk in divorce settlement pension share shortly) and current contributions are 5% me / 5% employer. I am increasing this with the NI cut in April. I do have full NI contributions though.

forgotmyusername1 · 19/03/2024 15:50

Female, 41, 340k and 1k a month contribution (self employed so no employer contribution)

Arraminta · 19/03/2024 15:50

Early fifties and DH and I have a pension pot of £650,000. We're also looking at selling our large family house and downsizing which will make us mortgage free with approximately another £100,000 in the bank. It isn't enough though to give us a really comfortable retirement yet.

Fluffyc1ouds · 19/03/2024 15:44

These employer contributions are impressive! Mine pay 3% and I pay 5%.

I'm a similar age OP and my pot is only at £13k. My salary has jumped up a lot in recent years (now £67k) so I do feel a bit behind as I spent so long on minimum wage.

I've not increased my contributions because I want to pay off debt and buy a house first and a few people have suggested I sort that before looking at my pension.

Biffbaff · 19/03/2024 15:42

YABVVU. All threads of this ilk are, asking for personal financial information. It just leads to smug bragging. What does it even achieve comparing with others - they're all going to be varied as everyone has different income and contribution levels.

There was a thread on this about 2 weeks ago as well 🙄

Mia85 · 19/03/2024 15:38

SallysLeftCheek · 19/03/2024 13:17

Those of you saying it isn't enough ( a lot of those seem to have hundreds of thousands in the pot) what is it not enough for?

I'm one of the posters with a bigger pot than average but who's saying it's not enough.

Bluntly, I need it to fully pay for my own retirement plus my spouse. At average life expectancy I need a pot significantly higher than I'm currently building so will ramp it up once small DC are older to give it a boost.

Compare that to the poster on page 1 who has a £10k pot in her mid 50s who's paying zero. She's smart. That's exactly what I'd be doing if I weren't a mid-high ish earner in my 30s.if you have little time to build up a pension pot in the UK, or have many many years out of work due to illness or caring responsibility, there's no point going half in. Gov pension plus non means tested top ups mean those in the middle get fucked over, just like when they were working.

You either need to blast a hole by charging your pension to a scary number in the UK or don't build any really significant pot and let the government deal with it once you reach state retirement age.

You could argue that those building no real pension will face poverty and it's definitely something I wouldn't seek myself. But I have a choice. And time to build the pot. That's crucial.

I work in a field where this calculated risk/reward optimisation is what I'm paid to do.

My comments here are fairly ruthless. and the current tax system in this country incentivises this view, if people were to act in a truly rational manner. It's amazing any middle earners pay a penny into their pension.

So: my view= good for an individual.
Longer term, likely to bankrupt the country when all those people who didn't build up pensions themselves all start looking to the DWP for their monthly income and there are fewer workers to pay for it all.

My advice for the next 10-20 years is to milk it. Or push past the threshold where you're penalised for building the pension pot.

Don't be in the middle.

Can I check what you mean by the risk/reward here and what you're basing the assessment on? Of course there are people who currently would have been better off without a small pension because it makes them ineligble for pension credit and that is the gateway to other pauments. But I thought that the system was moving so that anyone who gets the full 'new' state pension would not be eligible for pension credit and the additional benefits that go with that. The argument was that this would mean that people would then benefit from any savings they had made even if they were small. That would mean that if the system stayed the same then anyone who was going to be eligible for the full state pension would be better off saving something (caveat if you are renting then it might affect housing benefit).

Of course things are very unlikely to stay the same and the systems are horribly complex and depend on your age and circumstances but I'm not sure how exactly you got to this
You either need to blast a hole by charging your pension to a scary number in the UK or don't build any really significant pot and let the government deal with it once you reach state retirement age.

WonderingAboutBabies · 19/03/2024 15:38

29, NHS pension - 10.7% from me and 23.7% from the NHS. No idea how much I'll get once I retire but at last glance it was estimated 35k per year.

Personal investments that will be for my pension ~ £5,000, with £100 added each month until retirement with a yield of around 6-8%. Est £1.1m by retirement age - I really recommend investing!

catsandkid · 19/03/2024 15:08

I'm almost 35. My pension pot is £89K at the moment.

I pay in 13% and employer 7% (plus the extra NI saving too).

From April I'll be upping my contributions to 14%, and also salary sacrificing my bonus too (~£15K) as I need to try and build it up. I didn't join the pension scheme until I was 28. Once I'm over the eye-watering nursery fee years I hope to put a bit more in there, especially as its such a tax-efficient way of saving for the future.

BeechTree24 · 19/03/2024 14:29

SAHM 56, DH set up SIPP for me years ago, it’s now at 870k. He also has a SIPP in his name.

LoveSkaMusic · 19/03/2024 14:19

44, £90kpa, £50k in pension, on a high-risk fund. 9% contribution.

My mortgage will be paid off in 2041, when I'm 61. We will downsize to free up around £500,000 in cash. My pot is projected to be around £450k by that time so with a fair wind, I should be able to retire with circa £1m.

Elsewhere123 · 19/03/2024 14:19

Poachedeggavocado · 19/03/2024 11:48

I'm in my early 50s so getting a bit worried. Recently went through the tedious task of finding all my pensions and seeing what was in them.

I have a pot of about £150k which apparently is not enough to live on by far if I want have a comfortable retirement so I'm upping the payments on my current pension to as much as I can to about 15%. Means cutting down on lots of other spending on clothing etc. I also checked my state pension contributions and found I'm nearly up to the 35 years required. Govt will probably up the retirement age before I get there though, so basically I don't ever see me fully retiring unfortunately.

Be careful. If in any of your 35 years of state pension contributions you were 'contracted out', then you will get a reduced rate. Check.

Turmerictolly · 19/03/2024 14:17

Orangeandnavy · 19/03/2024 13:34

No idea because I am in a defined benefit scheme. (Civil Service). We have a site where you can see what you’d get and mine says £25k pa if I retire at 65. Plus £27k lump sum. I’ll get the full state pension at 67.

Am on £52k and I believe contributions are 5% from me and 12% from employer.

Am late 50s, single and should have paid mortgage off by 60 so can always downsize and move out of the south east (if my children ever leave home!).

I want to partially retire at 60 and take reduced pension of 18k and just work part time. I spend far too much time wondering if that is actually possible! Would be useful to know what my pension equates to as cash value to compare with others.

I think the CETV for an equivalent £24k per year would be about £550k.

Minikievs · 19/03/2024 14:17

MaryLennoxsScowl · 19/03/2024 12:10

Some of these pots are huge! Posters must have either a huge salary or a very generous employer contribution. I started my pension at 28 (employer before then didn’t offer one), new employer put in 3%, I put in 7%. I now put in 8% and my current employer puts in 7%. This is generous for my industry. Current pot after 12 years: £36k. I’m on target to be able to maintain standard of living on retirement assuming full state pension but won’t be retiring until I’m 68 at least and no doubt the government will have moved the goalposts by then.

Totally agree. I don't know why I open these threads, as all the posters with pots WAAAAAAY in excess of mine and saying it's not enough, give me anxiety!
I'm mid 40s. Pot is 85k. I contribute 4% to a personal one, 10% to a work one and employer puts in 5%. So 19% overall. As far as earnings go, I'm not a higher rate tax payer but not too far off.

I know it's not enough. But I do actually want to enjoy my life slightly and not throw every penny (that I don't have anyway) into a pot that I might not ever spend.

I need a new job. But my hours, office location, work ethic....it all keeps me here. I'm so tired and so fed up of worrying about money for XYZ. Pension. Holiday. University savings. As well as having an actual LIFE.

PansyOatZebra · 19/03/2024 14:08

About £90k, I’m 31 and put in 6% a month, employer puts in 15% so 21% a month going in

WinchSparkle80 · 19/03/2024 14:06

43, £80k, £185k in pension, 10% combined contributions
Paid off mortgage

L0bstersLass · 19/03/2024 14:03

Age : early 50s,
Current pot : £550k
Current salary £90k
Contributions : 51% (43% me, 8% employer) + my bonus

Am so fed up of working and hoping to stop within the next few years.
It won't be a luxurious retirement but it will be good enough.

Coffeeandgranola · 19/03/2024 13:57

33, ~£135k pot, £80k, 18% (8% me, 10% employer)

AllSuggestionsTaken · 19/03/2024 13:55

saradika · 19/03/2024 13:17

@AllSuggestionsTaken how have you managed to get enough years of NI contributions already?? That's impressive at 40!

I have worked and paid NI full time since 18. I qualified into my profession whilst working (and raising a family - that’s why I look 55!)

caringcarer · 19/03/2024 13:49

I had a defined benefit as Teachers Pension but I got a chunk of exh pension upon divorce and I put it in a Sipp. I also added to the Sipp and when I early retired at 57 it had reached £55k so I took 25 percent and put rest into an annuity to last 10 years from when I'm 57 to 67 years. Then I'll get a state pension kick in. In the meantime I've carried on putting into Sipp again and it's now back up to £11k. If I don't pay into Sipp I simply pay more to Mr Hunt.

unicornglittersprinkles · 19/03/2024 13:48

Age : early 40s,
Current pot : £185k pot,
Current salary £35k (P.T hours, will increase once kids are older)
Contributions : 22% (6% me, 16% employer)
I've always contributed a minimum of 5% since leaving university at 21 and always worked somewhere where contributions are at least matched.

workshy46 · 19/03/2024 13:35

Just under a million, 47
This came from massive employer contributions in lump sums as apposed to bonus. To balance I only have 60K in savings

Orangeandnavy · 19/03/2024 13:34

No idea because I am in a defined benefit scheme. (Civil Service). We have a site where you can see what you’d get and mine says £25k pa if I retire at 65. Plus £27k lump sum. I’ll get the full state pension at 67.

Am on £52k and I believe contributions are 5% from me and 12% from employer.

Am late 50s, single and should have paid mortgage off by 60 so can always downsize and move out of the south east (if my children ever leave home!).

I want to partially retire at 60 and take reduced pension of 18k and just work part time. I spend far too much time wondering if that is actually possible! Would be useful to know what my pension equates to as cash value to compare with others.

Portu · 19/03/2024 13:33

@SallysLeftCheek cheers yeah, thanks for getting it. I didn't set the system up, but I have to get by within it. The worst position to be in is to have just that bit too much to qualify for any help.