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To think change is desperately needed in schools?

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GibberingPeck · 18/03/2024 18:46

I work with young children. Today I was hit twice and scratched on the face so hard it drew blood. This has not happened to me before and I’ve worked in schools for many years. I was trying to stop a child hurting another child. The school’s stance seems to be that I shouldn’t have intervened or somehow dealt with the situation badly. I think they saw I was bleeding, but ignored it as they have so much to deal with. This year, I think I’ve seen more violent and aggressive behaviour from children than I’ve ever seen. And no way of dealing with it - it seems to have become acceptable or ‘the norm’.

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Fly3344 · 18/03/2024 19:11

I’ve worked in schools there are so many children with undiagnosed SEN that can’t even get an assessment and there’s lack of staff to support them, it’s awful.

coxesorangepippin · 18/03/2024 19:11

Yet another thread about this

Nothing changes

GibberingPeck · 18/03/2024 19:10

@Ariona

Private.

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Ariona · 18/03/2024 19:09

State or private?

Dacadactyl · 18/03/2024 19:07

thebillcollector · 18/03/2024 19:04

Children's centres - virtually gone
Surestart - gone
Children's Services early intervention for children and families - gone (unless a pretty high risk already).

and now here we are.

There was no sure start or children's centres in the 80s and early 90s and behaviour wasn't out of control then though?

OldChinaJug · 18/03/2024 19:06

SingingSands · 18/03/2024 18:56

I think change is desperately needed at home, before children get to school age. Nowadays, parents seem to expect schools to parent as well as educate.

This in spades

Dweetfidilove · 18/03/2024 19:05

Im sorry you’ve been hurt, OP.

Nothing will change in school until things change at home. So many excuses are made for children’s poor behaviour, to excuse feckless parents from raising their children.

There are countless threads here about teachers being hurt in school, childminders and caregivers hurt in childcare settings.

Each one is inundated with parents telling you how good you have it versus how hard they have it and a million excuses for why you should be hit and just get on with it.

I often wonder what will become of these children when they find themselves in places or situations where no-one is willing to stand by and let them hurt them.

Teachers have my sympathies because I wouldn’t enter the profession for all the tea in China ☹️.

thebillcollector · 18/03/2024 19:04

Children's centres - virtually gone
Surestart - gone
Children's Services early intervention for children and families - gone (unless a pretty high risk already).

and now here we are.

twistyizzy · 18/03/2024 18:58
  • Because too many parents leave parenting to the schools (potty training/behaviour etc)
  • lack of respect to teachers
  • lack of support and early intervention for SEN children
  • lack of support from SLT

Yes the education system needs fundamental reform but so does the social contract between parents and schools. I repeatedly say parents need to parent by which I mean take responsibility for the behaviour of their DC and model a positive attitude towards education and teachers. Rather than kick up a fuss when their precious DC get told off in school, listen to the reasons why and don't believe everything their DC tell them. Have consequences at home for poor behaviour etc.

Simmy76349 · 18/03/2024 18:57

I keep reading on here about the horrible things teachers have to put up with. It sounds awful and I don't think I realised how bad it was.

How old were these children? Do the parents get involved and what do they say? I'd be so embarrassed if my daughters did something like this.

SingingSands · 18/03/2024 18:56

I think change is desperately needed at home, before children get to school age. Nowadays, parents seem to expect schools to parent as well as educate.

Pieceofpurplesky · 18/03/2024 18:51

You only have to read on here how bad it is but the moment a teacher - or any school staff - start to discuss it they are told they are whinging and to leave if they don't like it.

I've quit. 24 years and it breaks my heart but it was me or the job.

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