To think change is desperately needed in schools?

So many kids are on medication now for conditions like ADHD, it’s mind boggling. I honestly don’t mean to sound judgemental, but don’t you worry about the long term effects? My kids are grown up now (thank God, because I wouldn’t want them to be in a school like the ones described on here), but I could never have put them on medication like that - I wouldn’t have dared. Twenty, thirty years ago, no one would. Now it’s the norm.

It makes you wonder, honestly.

I never said it's all due to entitled MC parents, I also never said private schools are full of entitled parents. You can click on quote history if you need to see what I said, as I think you've misread my posts or are quoting someone else.

I commented on the first page and have just come back to it.
I wasn't the one who brought up it being due to entitled MC parents, you did and you then went on to say that private schools are all full of entitled parents. I haven't RTFT no but entitled attitudes exist across all sectors and all I can say is that DDs private school isn't an example of this. We are rural NE England though so no uber wealthy, just parents invested in getting a decent education for our DC.

You've clearly not bothered to read the thread, which I don't blame you as it's long, but the OPs second post says they're in a private school. The many many posts from teachers all talk about how the wealthier parents often make up the bigger problem. That's not my own opinion.
Inverted prejudice of course exists, and your assumption that my child is at a state school is probably part of that.
You've illustrated perfectly what money gets you- choice. It's not state Vs private. Also, the 1:1 the SEN school get, might well be the OP!

Another teacher here... 40y/o, primary, central scotland, 17 years in the job. Will be dropping a day after summer and taking the hit financially as I can't suffer it any longer and don't know what else I could do job-wise.

Lack of funding for staffing and resources combined with apathetic parenting (by no means all parents but certainly more and more each year).

So many kids are on medication now for conditions like ADHD, it’s mind boggling. I honestly don’t mean to sound judgemental, but don’t you worry about the long term effects? My kids are grown up now (thank God, because I wouldn’t want them to be in a school like the ones described on here), but I could never have put them on medication like that - I wouldn’t have dared. Twenty, thirty years ago, no one would. Now it’s the norm.

It makes you wonder, honestly.

I am saying in DDs school SEN have 1'-2-1 support that is an additional cost.
And you call other people prejudiced when you come out with "they are full of entitled parents that are very difficult to deal with"
Maybe check your own prejudices, inverted snobbery exists!

I work in CAMHS and I’m shocked at the lack of boundaries parents are putting in place to keep their children healthy and safe. They can do what they want when they want with little to no consequences of it. Parents are scared to do anything that might cause their child any sort of upset or distress. Children are spending far too much time on screens and doing this well into the night. When you advise cutting this down you’re met with “Oh No I can’t take his phone off him because he’ll have a meltdown” meanwhile their 10 year old is being groomed online because they have unlimited access to all areas of the internet. I often ask children to tell me what their screen-time average is and I’m now not shocked to hear of teenagers spending 10-14 hours a day on their phones. Children have phones and iPads shoved in front of them to keep them quiet and easy to manage from a few months old whilst parents sit on their own phones ignoring their children (real life still face experiment in action!). I honestly feel that this is having such a detrimental impact on children’s concentration levels, social skills etc and then a few years down the line the parents want an autism/adhd assessment.
Obviously there are a load of other factors as well and the bottom line is that these are genuinely very distressed, dysregulated and unhappy children who have been let down by those around them.
Anyway, that’s my view. I realise that might come across judgemental and I know that parents are under a lot of pressure themselves but it is just depressing. It’s been a long day..

No clue what your point is. The OP works in a private school. Lol private schools do not give 1:1 to all SEN kids. If anything SEN kids are screwed over in private schools and they are full of entitled parents that are very difficult to deal with.

@Mumma2024 That's incorrect, they shouldn't have done that. It's against NICE guidelines. If she's got a diagnosis from NHS and the money, reach out to a private psychiatrist. We managed to get a medicine review with one on zoom for £300 as we had a diagnosis already. It was about £100 a month in private prescriptions until titration was done, so about 3 months, than our GP took over on a shared care agreement. Eventually CAMHS agreed to take it over as they said she's been on medication with a positive effect 🙄

"No one is saying that. For the most part this thread is filled with people saying social media and phones are the problem. Parents letting screens raise their kids from extremely young ages (under 2)."

But this seems to be a fairly new complaint - that kids starting reception & year 7 are now feral, but weren't before lockdown?

I work in CAMHS and I’m shocked at the lack of boundaries parents are putting in place to keep their children healthy and safe. They can do what they want when they want with little to no consequences of it. Parents are scared to do anything that might cause their child any sort of upset or distress. Children are spending far too much time on screens and doing this well into the night. When you advise cutting this down you’re met with “Oh No I can’t take his phone off him because he’ll have a meltdown” meanwhile their 10 year old is being groomed online because they have unlimited access to all areas of the internet. I often ask children to tell me what their screen-time average is and I’m now not shocked to hear of teenagers spending 10-14 hours a day on their phones. Children have phones and iPads shoved in front of them to keep them quiet and easy to manage from a few months old whilst parents sit on their own phones ignoring their children (real life still face experiment in action!). I honestly feel that this is having such a detrimental impact on children’s concentration levels, social skills etc and then a few years down the line the parents want an autism/adhd assessment.
Obviously there are a load of other factors as well and the bottom line is that these are genuinely very distressed, dysregulated and unhappy children who have been let down by those around them.
Anyway, that’s my view. I realise that might come across judgemental and I know that parents are under a lot of pressure themselves but it is just depressing. It’s been a long day..

But not all MC and wealthy people send their DC to private schools.
IMO it is more due to the fact that parents who pay school fees have skin in the game. I wonder if the patents who don't engage with schools had to pay for education, whether they would become more invested.
Class sizes 18-20 Vs 30+ makes a massive difference too as teachers really get to know their pupils and can build positive relationships. Very mutually respectful culture throughout the school with staff at all levels. Kids and teachers are friendly and polite towards each other so none of the Us V Them combative relationships you read about on many posts.
SEN kids have 1-2-1 support in all lessons.

I work in CAMHS and I’m shocked at the lack of boundaries parents are putting in place to keep their children healthy and safe. They can do what they want when they want with little to no consequences of it. Parents are scared to do anything that might cause their child any sort of upset or distress. Children are spending far too much time on screens and doing this well into the night. When you advise cutting this down you’re met with “Oh No I can’t take his phone off him because he’ll have a meltdown” meanwhile their 10 year old is being groomed online because they have unlimited access to all areas of the internet. I often ask children to tell me what their screen-time average is and I’m now not shocked to hear of teenagers spending 10-14 hours a day on their phones. Children have phones and iPads shoved in front of them to keep them quiet and easy to manage from a few months old whilst parents sit on their own phones ignoring their children (real life still face experiment in action!). I honestly feel that this is having such a detrimental impact on children’s concentration levels, social skills etc and then a few years down the line the parents want an autism/adhd assessment.
Obviously there are a load of other factors as well and the bottom line is that these are genuinely very distressed, dysregulated and unhappy children who have been let down by those around them.
Anyway, that’s my view. I realise that might come across judgemental and I know that parents are under a lot of pressure themselves but it is just depressing. It’s been a long day..

You're actually showing your own stereotypes here. The thread was started by someone working in a private school and many teachers on here comment on the middle class and wealthier parents being a bigger problem.

Oh come on Foxesandsquirrels - 'better behaviour' and 'smaller class sizes are the reasons most commonly stated by parents who choose fee paying schools. It's not a stereotype when it's true!

Someone mentioned a year 4 boy - so - a boy of 8 or 9. A child that age should be spending HOURS running around - how much is he getting really? May be arriving at school sitting down most of the day and going home and sitting in front of screens - of course he is behaving appallingly - this is no way to bring kids up. We have a mental and physical health crisis in our children.

And sad as it is for teachers, the first question should be to look at how children are feeling and how we are failing them - especially when they are this young.

I do not think it is common at all! My eldest DGS is in year 9 and has never seen any violence towards staff in any school he has attended. His young brother is in reception at school and there are no issues like this in his year either.

GoodnightAdeline - so we'd expect to see this in all countries across the EU unless we have evidence of lower phone use in those places?

And the reason you don't see this in private schools is because well off people are better, less neglectful parents?