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To consider having a baby at 44

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littleloopylou · 18/03/2024 11:52

I already have one child whom I love dearly. She desperately wants a sibling.

My partner and I met late in life.

We are financially secure.

I am aware it might not be possible.

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littleloopylou · 19/03/2024 09:59

@Upinthenightagain we have been together for 2 years.

I should emphasise again that there is no pressure from him whatsoever. It's just that I know he would love to have a baby.

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readytoexplode24 · 19/03/2024 09:59

Way to old and to many risks.
It's quite selfish as well sorry.

Upinthenightagain · 19/03/2024 09:55

littleloopylou · 19/03/2024 09:35

@Upinthenightagain he is totally devoted to me. He wants to get married (and I do too, but am a little hesitant after my abusive ex), but we are just finishing a big renovation project and it hasn't been the right time.

If you’re a little hesitant that’s not great for having a child. How long have you been together?

ludocris · 19/03/2024 09:53

I would add that I'm not saying OP should try for a baby. That's entirely her choice. I'm just saying that there's a lot of doom-mongering and overstatement of risks on this thread (not to mention judgement about older mums). As an older mum you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Plenty of people judge mothers for having only children. We can't win!

ludocris · 19/03/2024 09:51

Soontobe60 · 19/03/2024 09:38

This information alone would make me seriously consider the safety of having a baby in my 40s.
At the age of 33, the chance of your baby being diagnosed with trisomy 21 (Down syndrome) during pregnancy is approximately 1/400. At the age of 40, this chance increases to 1/70. By age 45, this chance is about 1/19
https://vpfw.com/blog/pregnancy-after-age-40-the-odds-the-risks-and-whether-to-try/

This might also be worth a read.
https://www.acog.org/womens-health/faqs/having-a-baby-after-age-35-how-aging-affects-fertility-and-pregnancy

Most other sources put it at a lot less than 1/19. It's usually between 1/30 and 1/50. Which means in a group of 100 45-year old women having babies, something like 2 or 3 will have a baby with DS.

patient.info/pregnancy/pregnancy-screening-tests/prenatal-screening-and-diagnosis-of-downs-syndrome

Goinghome20 · 19/03/2024 09:51

Ps I lost my parents at 23 and they had me when they were young. There are no guarantees.

Goinghome20 · 19/03/2024 09:47

I would say if you really want another baby to go for it and not to dither too much.

I am 56 now with a 13 and 16yo. Having our family was the best decision we ever made. Dh is 61 now, and yes he cannot retire until 65, but we wouldn't swap our family for early retirement. We have had so much fun with our children over the past 2 decades and regret nothing. In another few years they'll be off living their owns lives and we will then begin to wind down to retirement.

We also did lots of travelling and adventure when we we young enough to fully enjoy it. Our retirement will hopefully be a restful one!

Soontobe60 · 19/03/2024 09:38

This information alone would make me seriously consider the safety of having a baby in my 40s.
At the age of 33, the chance of your baby being diagnosed with trisomy 21 (Down syndrome) during pregnancy is approximately 1/400. At the age of 40, this chance increases to 1/70. By age 45, this chance is about 1/19
https://vpfw.com/blog/pregnancy-after-age-40-the-odds-the-risks-and-whether-to-try/

This might also be worth a read.
https://www.acog.org/womens-health/faqs/having-a-baby-after-age-35-how-aging-affects-fertility-and-pregnancy

Odds and Risks of Pregnancy After 40

Our expert, Dr. Allison Giles, discusses fertility rates, risks to mother and baby, and other considerations for women trying to conceive over age 40.

https://vpfw.com/blog/pregnancy-after-age-40-the-odds-the-risks-and-whether-to-try/

littleloopylou · 19/03/2024 09:35

@Upinthenightagain he is totally devoted to me. He wants to get married (and I do too, but am a little hesitant after my abusive ex), but we are just finishing a big renovation project and it hasn't been the right time.

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Upinthenightagain · 19/03/2024 09:33

Is he sharing everything with you financially? What’s the reason you’re not married or engaged? You’re taking a big risk with your health and future by having a child. You’d need to be as sure as possible that he’s committed. Babies put huge pressure on relationships and he’s had 40 odd years of freedom

ludocris · 19/03/2024 09:28

@Isthisexpected "would you want to be an orphan at 30?"

No one wants to be an orphan. But I'm sure you wouldn't say this if the OP was as little as 5 years younger. And is there much difference between being an orphan at 30 vs 35? You're obviously suggesting it's selfish to have a child who may become orphaned 'too young' - what age is your cut off? Is it ok to be orphaned at 40? 45? Too late for the likes of me, but this might help younger women determine the age by which they should have a baby and not be portrayed as self-serving. TIA.

littleloopylou · 19/03/2024 09:22

And @Isthisexpected concerns about my own old age are a part of it - theoretically at least, it would be easier for my daughter to handle these things with a sibling.

I am an only child and I look forward to the coming years of caring for my parents with dread (not least because I am not from this country and there is no path to bringing them here close to me) - which of course is another reason not to have a child 😔

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littleloopylou · 19/03/2024 09:19

@Isthisexpected I would enjoy nurturing a child, but it's tough with also working full time and managing life generally.

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Everyonesouttogetme · 19/03/2024 09:12

I had my first at 40 and I'm so exhausted by parenting. Now heading into menopause at 42 and finding dealing with a toddler when I feel like crap so hard. I hadn't thought my age mattered that much but it's been tough. Of course depends how fit you are, when you start perimenopause etc but something to think about

Isthisexpected · 19/03/2024 09:11

littleloopylou · 18/03/2024 12:09

A friend just urged me to do it.

When I see babies, I feel wistful.

The main concerns I have are wrecking my body, having a child with special needs, and not having any free time.

I'm shocked not having free time is one of your main concerns. That suggests to me that having another child isn't for you at all! You just want a baby to cuddle, not a person to nurture.

I'd also be concerned about the likelihood that as your own children are establishing their lives enjoying that time in their life they'll be looking at care homes and supporting you through dementia or chronic illness. Life expectancy isn't what I'm getting at; it's disease free life expectancy that's pretty static at mid 70s. Would you want to be an orphan at 30?

rainingsnoring · 19/03/2024 09:10

Crushed23 · 18/03/2024 12:14

Agree with PP, 44 is not that old. In my pocket of South London, no one would bat an eyelid at a mid-40s mum with a newborn. Perfectly normal.

Go for it, if you’re able to and it’s what you want. Good luck.

I think your view is skewed that you live in 'a pocket of S London'.
44 IS old to have a baby, it always has been as it's towards the end of most women's fertility window. Most women can't conceive and carry a baby to full term at 44. A lot of the women that you see have probably used donor eggs, just like the celebrities who are having babies in their mid 40s. In previous generations, they would have presumed that a woman in her mid 40s with a newborn was probably the grandmother.

@littleloopylou don't have a baby because your child is desperate for a sibling. At your age, it has to be something that you both really want, having weighed up all the medical and other risks, which are much higher in your mid 40s.

sickofbuilders · 19/03/2024 09:04

My friend is 44 and has just had her second. It’s a choice totally personal to you.

FilthyforFirth · 19/03/2024 09:02

I personally couldnt think of anything worse. Potentially 62 before getting some freedom back if they go to uni.

35 was my cut off BUT I accept I was lucky enough to have met the right person before then and be able to have children without help.

At your age I would worry about multiples and additional needs.

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/03/2024 09:01

ludocris · 18/03/2024 22:06

It's interesting that many of the people who are saying 'God no!' are also saying that their two kids are or will be late teens at the age of 44 and they couldn't imagine starting again. That's a completely different scenario to someone who has one child who is still primary age. OP is already at a completely different stage in her life despite being the same age, so it's comparing apples and oranges.

OP I am 43 and pregnant. At my booking appointment last week both of the midwives I spoke to were unconcerned about my age (and one said her own mum was 42 when she was born).

That's what I said

littleloopylou · 19/03/2024 09:00

KimberleyClark · 19/03/2024 08:58

How old is your partner OP? If he is much older than you you need to bear in mind his sperm will not be in tip top condition.

He is a year younger...so his sperm are probably still in good shape?

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KimberleyClark · 19/03/2024 08:58

How old is your partner OP? If he is much older than you you need to bear in mind his sperm will not be in tip top condition.

Ofcourseshecan · 19/03/2024 08:53

Don’t do it just because your DD wants it, OP. Bless her, but children change their minds all the time. And don’t do it just because your partner wants it, though that is obviously a plus.

Only do it if you really want to, after seriously considering the risks and disadvantages. It’s your body and probably most of the work over the next 20 years will be on you too.

But if you really want to, go for it. Best of luck to you all, whatever you decide.

thecatsthecats · 19/03/2024 07:39

Don't get swayed by smushy newborns.

My son is a 5 month old planned only, and I already find myself getting wistful about "he'll never be this small again" moments.

But you have to want the kid for its and your entire life. That goes for the good and the bad - the expense, the loss of freedom, the body difficulties have to be weighed against whether you want the adult human in your life.

MumChp · 19/03/2024 07:30

We had our youngst daughter late (not planned).
Age hasn't been an issue at all.
Go for it you can.

littleloopylou · 19/03/2024 07:08

@thatgirlinjapan I got pregnant on accident a year ago 🤷‍♀️

But yes, did miscarry. I'm fully aware that it probably wouldn't happen.

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