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To consider having a baby at 44

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littleloopylou · 18/03/2024 11:52

I already have one child whom I love dearly. She desperately wants a sibling.

My partner and I met late in life.

We are financially secure.

I am aware it might not be possible.

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User20056 · 24/06/2024 11:48

They are thriving and happy. I am most definitely not "shattered" and I did all my "freedom" stuff when I was young enough to enjoy it. The pregnancies were straight forward.

It is interesting that older parents get very defensive if anyone brings up the risks of pregnancy in your 40d but constantly need to feel superior to everyone else ('young enough to enjoy' freedom). We get it, your choices are perfect and there's no downsides.

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 11:43

@LostTheMarble I had no idea about these aspects of autism. Sorry for the difficulties you have experienced and thank you for this perspective.

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LostTheMarble · 24/06/2024 11:36

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 11:21

@LostTheMarble that's interesting - thank you. I suspect that I may be autistic and my half brother probably/possibly is. But we are both highly functional people and didn't cause many problems in our childhoods iyswim.

@AnneLovesGilbert I am healthy on the face of it - slim, rarely ill, etc. That said, my vein health is crap and I often feel lightheaded. I am also extremely anxious. I do worry what sort of toll pregnancy and the newborn years would take on me.

We would only try for a natural conception. I actually accidentally got pregnant last year and had a very stressful miscarriage experience.

’High functioning autism’ is an out of date term, it’s just autism. Every single person can be affected differently by the condition even if they don’t have high needs/learning disabilities. My children’s father has autism that evidently went undetected during childhood as despite awful bullying ‘managed just fine’. Has a good job now (though absolutely heading for a burnout, can see it happening in real time). Our children present differently, one is fully verbal but struggles with making friends and speaking within turn, some self care issues. One only speaks in echolalia, cannot manage any self care, hardly any social skills. Both highly intelligent in terms of academics. We had our children in our 20s so age wasn’t a factor.

Im not saying everyone with suspected autism has had some huge difficulties or burnout that affected them at some point, but if you suspect autism runs in the family it may certainly be something you have to consider for a future child and yourself. Because at 50 you may have a child with no sense of danger, non verbal, highly like to run off when scared or distracted, only sleeps 3 hours a night from birth. It’s not world ending but it is exhausting beyond belief. Same with genetic conditions that are more likely with older parents, it’s not a definitive but it’s something to seriously consider.

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 11:21

@LostTheMarble that's interesting - thank you. I suspect that I may be autistic and my half brother probably/possibly is. But we are both highly functional people and didn't cause many problems in our childhoods iyswim.

@AnneLovesGilbert I am healthy on the face of it - slim, rarely ill, etc. That said, my vein health is crap and I often feel lightheaded. I am also extremely anxious. I do worry what sort of toll pregnancy and the newborn years would take on me.

We would only try for a natural conception. I actually accidentally got pregnant last year and had a very stressful miscarriage experience.

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DisappearingGirl · 24/06/2024 11:19

Personally I would check the risks of Down's syndrome, autism and other health issues based on both the woman's age and the man's age, and decide if you are willing to take the risk. Fine if you are, but I'd go into it with my eyes open.

Bearing the above in mind, I'd also think about whether you have support networks e.g. friends/family if either of you face health issues down the line, as presumably the grandparents will be too elderly to be much practical help as the child gets older.

Not saying I wouldn't go for it - after all everything in life has a risk attached! But I would consider the risks carefully and what you can put in place to mitigate them.

LostTheMarble · 24/06/2024 11:15

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 11:05

Autism is definitely a concern of mine.

I am a bit bemused regarding the idea of baby trapping a man in one's 40s (or at all, really)????

Autism is usually only likely if there’s a familial link - anyone in your or his immediate family autistic? Autism can also come with genetic conditions, and of course there is a higher risk of conditions such a Downs Syndrome with you both being older. I have two children with additional needs, there’s a lot of scaremongering and I won’t lie it’s hard work (I currently cannot work due to high level of needs) but it often seems worse to people looking in from the outside than day to day life actually is.

AnneLovesGilbert · 24/06/2024 11:06

What’s your health like generally? Would you both have fertility testing to see how things look? I had my second just before I turned 40, conceived easily but found it so so much more tiring than my first 4 years earlier. I hadn’t slept well since my eldest which didn’t help and was much achier, bp was very low, couldn’t walk for a couple of weeks at one point, crippling nausea for months which I didn’t have with DD. Things got better after having the baby and DS is a joy every day but we both feel quite a lot older since having him. I’ve visibly aged in the last year.

I was a step parent before having mine and can sympathise with your DP. It’s nothing at all like having your own. But he knew your ages when you got together so he’s hopefully realistic about the challenges. I don’t think ivf is an option at 44 so you need to have proper discussions about how long you’d try for, the risks of miscarriage (fucking awful experience if you haven’t been through it), the child having difficulties, the risks to your own health. I know you’ve thought about these things but have the two of you really gone through what it would all mean for your lives?

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 11:05

Dotto · 24/06/2024 10:55

Friend regrets it. Twins and one has severe autism. Feels resentful as she only did it to trap a man, who left her anyway.

Autism is definitely a concern of mine.

I am a bit bemused regarding the idea of baby trapping a man in one's 40s (or at all, really)????

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Acornsoup · 24/06/2024 10:58

Dotto · 24/06/2024 10:55

Friend regrets it. Twins and one has severe autism. Feels resentful as she only did it to trap a man, who left her anyway.

Well I mean, that was a ridiculous motive and incredibly selfish of her :(

Dotto · 24/06/2024 10:55

Friend regrets it. Twins and one has severe autism. Feels resentful as she only did it to trap a man, who left her anyway.

Greenlittecat · 24/06/2024 10:52

I'm knackered at 31 with mine, if you think you can keep up with the demands of a young child (and I know 40s isnt old before anyone jumps down my throat!) And you don't mind having a teenager in your 50s I would say go for it!

Obviously the risks increase but pregnancy is risky anyway.

I've always thought you regret the things you don't do rather than regret the things you do!

I would start trying ASAP though ❤️

Acornsoup · 24/06/2024 10:48

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 09:19

@Acornsoup did you have any regrets about having a baby in your 40s? (Even if it's the right choice overall!)

Not for a single minute.

Tessisme · 24/06/2024 10:46

I don't think people telling you that your fertility has dropped at 44 is particularly helpful. You know that anyway. This thread has come up again because I left a comment before. Just to reiterate, I had my sons at 41 and 45. No IVF or any other fertility assistance. I had straightforward pregnancies - just the usual nausea, acid reflux type stuff which was horrible, but not age related. Two quick labours and two uneventful deliveries. At 57, I won't say it's easy, but I have no regrets. None.

montysma1 · 24/06/2024 10:09

littleloopylou · 18/03/2024 14:58

I think that this is knocking some sense into me. It would be unwise to have a baby. Need to remind myself of this...

Don't just listen to the doom merchants, it's not the full story and not a foregone conclusion. I have a 12 year old and 2 15 year olds at age 58.

They are thriving and happy. I am most definitely not "shattered" and I did all my "freedom" stuff when I was young enough to enjoy it. The pregnancies were straight forward.

Bouledeneige · 24/06/2024 09:46

These threads do pop up on a regular basis and it is important to note not just the lifestyle, family and energy issues but also the fertility and risk issues related to the chances of a healthy birth. The risks of unsuccessful attempts and of disability are of course scientifically much higher. Previous threads will have included all the data. And mothers should go into it with their eyes fully open about can cause a lot of heartache and distress.

ShrinkingEveryDay · 24/06/2024 09:35

Hereyoume · 18/03/2024 12:18

So fertility is fine at 44 is it?

There are no risks to the baby with a mother at that age?

Your little pocket of South London is likely propping up a few dozen fertility clinics.

Absolutely! It is dangerous nonsense to pretend that 44 is a perfectly normal age to get pregnant. A few of my friends tried in their 40s and none of them were successful - if you want to try OP then go for it but prepare yourself that your chances are significantly reduced once in your mid 40s.

SallyWD · 24/06/2024 09:27

Whoknowsohyoudo · 20/03/2024 18:58

I had a "surprise" baby at 40. Fat, happy 3 month old DD now with a problem free pregnancy. If you have a good support system it's doable. I was more tired with that pregnancy though than I've ever been in my life. And I worry about not being around as long as a younger mother would for when dc are older. First ds was at 37 dd was at 40. She was a great gift, even in my "later years" so I would say go for it. Be prepared for all the "geriatric pregnancy" hoops to jump through and the comments. I understand the worry but ffs they act like they have to get the hoover ready for the puff of dust that's going to come out🙄

There's a big difference in fertility between 40 and 44 though. It's important to be realistic about this. If OP wants to give it a go then fine but the chance of her getting pregnant and staying pregnant are probably less than 1%. My friend was in the same boat, also aged 44 when she was trying so we were aware of all the stats. She wasn't successful.

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 09:19

@Acornsoup did you have any regrets about having a baby in your 40s? (Even if it's the right choice overall!)

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Acornsoup · 24/06/2024 08:16

I had 2 in my early 30s and another at 40 because I felt like someone was missing. You have to do what's right for you Smile

Lilacapples · 24/06/2024 08:03

Personally no I wouldn’t. I was post menopause by 46 anyway, periods stopped at 45 and i already have one child with SN .

I had my last two at 34 and 35, they’re now 17 and 18 and I’m older than most of their friend’s parents! It’s a personal thing though and in your situation there’s no reason not to. I just wouldn’t think about it for too long!

littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 07:55

Upinthenightagain · 19/03/2024 10:13

@littleloopylou I think the fact he hasn’t got a child of his own and would love one is an unspoken pressure because he could very well go off with someone younger and have a child with them.
I think as well even if you have a healthy baby you will find that it will not be easy for your daughter. There’s a high chance she will be jealous of the new baby and with good reason.

It's hard to describe how devoted to me this man is. I have absolutely no concern whatsoever that he would leave me. He has told his parents that being with me is more important to him than having children

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littleloopylou · 24/06/2024 07:43

Reviving this thread! These feelings aren't going away. I'm considering booking an appointment to have my IUD removed 😳

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thatgirlinjapan · 24/03/2024 08:58

@littleloopylou

Sorry, what I mean is you're statistically less likely to carry the pregnancy to term. There's a very high chance of miscarriage or chromosomal abnormalities etc

Whoknowsohyoudo · 20/03/2024 18:58

I had a "surprise" baby at 40. Fat, happy 3 month old DD now with a problem free pregnancy. If you have a good support system it's doable. I was more tired with that pregnancy though than I've ever been in my life. And I worry about not being around as long as a younger mother would for when dc are older. First ds was at 37 dd was at 40. She was a great gift, even in my "later years" so I would say go for it. Be prepared for all the "geriatric pregnancy" hoops to jump through and the comments. I understand the worry but ffs they act like they have to get the hoover ready for the puff of dust that's going to come out🙄

ludocris · 20/03/2024 18:29

Poppalina37 · 20/03/2024 18:09

Gotta jump back on to this post!

All this older mum bashing is utterly ridiculous! I had a child in my teens and I was a minority then..... I've now had a baby at 42! Toddler group is full of mums aged 25-45, it's an eclectic age range.

I also teach year 1/2.... most of my parents are 35+. Women are choosing their careers over getting married and having babies now... also the role of the father has massively changed!

I actually feel a little sorry for my 25 year old son... because we grew up together. My little one will have the best of me! As an older parents we take amazing care of our health... no dirty doner kebabs in our lounge on a Saturday night 😂

I agree - and many of the posts are written as if we live 500 years ago and the average life expectancy is not much more than 45. Especially the PP who put 'who will look after your disabled child when you die' 😅

Sounded like a doomsayer from a plague-ridden 14th century Britain.