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To have a baby my grown dd doesn't want me to have?

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pebblecity · 18/03/2024 11:43

I have a 23 year old dd who I had when I was 17, she has a 1 year old who we occasionally have to sleep over in what was her old bedroom.
I am pregnant again now at 40 after years of trying and dh and I are over the moon.

Dd however is not so pleased, we announced our pregnancy after the 12 week scan and she's really upset that her daughter will be 2 years older than ours and that our baby will be eventually in dds old room which our granddaughter sometimes sleeps in if we babysit, the rooms a double and there is still room for our granddaughter on occasion to stay in there but dd said it's not the same.
Dd is disgusted at the thought and although we thought she'd be surprised, we didn't expect this reaction, especially as we've been ttc for a long time with many losses (which she doesn't know about) but now we are really exited.

I understand this is weird for her because of the age gap but were we right to go ahead if it's what we really want?
This is so upsetting for everyone and I feel so guilty that she feels the way she does.

OP posts:
phoenixrosehere · 20/03/2024 18:37

That's a very unusual scenario and not one that most people ever think will happen to them, especially as OP has never given her daughter any inkling that she wants to have another baby.

It is not very unusual if you are from a large family and large families weren’t that long ago. It’s also not unusual for a woman of OP’s age to have a baby and not share her struggles with her daughter because frankly it isn’t the daughter’s business when she doesn’t live with OP and her daughter has her own partner and family.

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 20/03/2024 18:37

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 17:46

I don’t. By the time one child is an adult and are living independently it really isn’t much difference to the living set up of half siblings. I have 22 year old and a 1 nearly 2 year old and my oldest kid wasn’t too impressed until she actually met the baby. Now they have a lovely bond.

My youngest brother is the youngest of several, all of whom are more than 20 years younger than me. I remember my daughter bouncing her aunt on her knee calling her aunty baby. It’s not a biggie and doesn’t need to be.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

IMO, there's a huge difference between your mum and dad choosing to have a 24 year gap between siblings, and your parents divorcing, re-marrying and naturally going on to start second families.

If I was 23 years old with a toddler and my mum told me that, after 24 years, she was going to have a second child, I would wonder whether she'd lost her senses lol. If she'd divorced my dad, re-married and started another family then I would think "oh, fair enough, she wants a baby with John too".

They're completely different situations.

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 18:36

fleurneige · 20/03/2024 18:21

I had a friend who had nephews and nieces much older than she was. It was always a bit of a friendly joke and not an issue at all. One of our friends has just had a 4th child, with his new, younger wife, who is a couple of months older than his new grandson. No problem.

Yeah my stepmother is close in age to me, about 5 years older. She’s a welcome figure in my life. We get on well as women, not stepmother/daughter which is fine. My own uncle is also five years older than me and we’ve always had a very brother/sister relationship. I have a big multi layered family and it’s nice.

fratellia · 20/03/2024 18:32

The DD might come to terms with it in time, or she might not. The little ones might bond, or they might not. Either way, OP will have to accept it as the price of her life choices, in the same way that many posters are demanding that the DD come to terms with the new situation.

Yes I think this sums it up really.
DD may come round, or it may push her away and the relationship may not ever be the same. Time will tell.

fleurneige · 20/03/2024 18:21

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 17:55

i was 33 when my youngest sibling was born. He’s 15 years younger than my eldest. It’s wasn’t a big deal and nobody batted an eyelid.

I had a friend who had nephews and nieces much older than she was. It was always a bit of a friendly joke and not an issue at all. One of our friends has just had a 4th child, with his new, younger wife, who is a couple of months older than his new grandson. No problem.

GreenFields07 · 20/03/2024 18:13

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 17:55

i was 33 when my youngest sibling was born. He’s 15 years younger than my eldest. It’s wasn’t a big deal and nobody batted an eyelid.

Im glad you had that experience. I didnt.

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 17:55

GreenFields07 · 19/03/2024 20:12

Sorry I have to go against the grain here and agree with your DD. Might get alot of stick but couldnt care, I am that girl who has aunts younger than her and its WEIRD so I get her reaction!! Its not about jealousy at all. When my mum started having kids I feel like that shouldve been the time for my grandad to say OK maybe im done now. But, NOPE, he had 3 more kids and now I have 3 aunts younger than me!!! I know someone who was actually pregnant at the same time as her DD, people looked at them like the clampits. Sorry but my opinion if youre becoming GPs then id accept my child bearing days were over. Iv had 3 miscarriages so understand the longing for more but still couldn't put my kids through this. Sorry OP. Its done now though, so im sure your DD will come round

i was 33 when my youngest sibling was born. He’s 15 years younger than my eldest. It’s wasn’t a big deal and nobody batted an eyelid.

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 17:49

Phiy43 · 20/03/2024 08:20

Really??? Glad I don’t live in your restricted world, I’m certainly not the only grandma having a (naturally conceived) child in early 40s and was very common in the past. It really isn’t usually an issue but apparently there seems to be a small cohort of very entitled adult DC about 😕

Edited

Absolutely is was very common in the past. Women married young and continued having children until they hit menopause by which time their eldest children had families of their own. My grandmothers youngest cousins are barely a decade older than me and we are all very close and I love having such a multi layered family. I had my last child at 39 and was sterilised because we’d had so many problems with genetics and stuff. My eldest is 22 and if she had of got pregnant as a teen it wouldn’t have stopped me having my bonus babies in my late 30s.

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 17:46

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 20/03/2024 16:55

I think it's a bit different when there are half-siblings and second marriages involved.

I don’t. By the time one child is an adult and are living independently it really isn’t much difference to the living set up of half siblings. I have 22 year old and a 1 nearly 2 year old and my oldest kid wasn’t too impressed until she actually met the baby. Now they have a lovely bond.

My youngest brother is the youngest of several, all of whom are more than 20 years younger than me. I remember my daughter bouncing her aunt on her knee calling her aunty baby. It’s not a biggie and doesn’t need to be.

navigatingmy20s · 20/03/2024 17:27

pebblecity · 18/03/2024 11:43

I have a 23 year old dd who I had when I was 17, she has a 1 year old who we occasionally have to sleep over in what was her old bedroom.
I am pregnant again now at 40 after years of trying and dh and I are over the moon.

Dd however is not so pleased, we announced our pregnancy after the 12 week scan and she's really upset that her daughter will be 2 years older than ours and that our baby will be eventually in dds old room which our granddaughter sometimes sleeps in if we babysit, the rooms a double and there is still room for our granddaughter on occasion to stay in there but dd said it's not the same.
Dd is disgusted at the thought and although we thought she'd be surprised, we didn't expect this reaction, especially as we've been ttc for a long time with many losses (which she doesn't know about) but now we are really exited.

I understand this is weird for her because of the age gap but were we right to go ahead if it's what we really want?
This is so upsetting for everyone and I feel so guilty that she feels the way she does.

Tell her to get over it. You’re only 40, most people don’t have their first until mid to late 30s / early 40s these days!

She will come around.

Happy for you OP, congratulations!

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 20/03/2024 16:55

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 13:50

Nah I’m 40 and I have a 22 year old daughter and I also have a 7 year old half brother. Nobody bats an eyelid. My stepmother is 5 years older than me. It’s more common than you think.

I think it's a bit different when there are half-siblings and second marriages involved.

Crocadoodledoo · 20/03/2024 16:53

Well, I think the DD’s reaction was entirely predictable. The mother figure she has known all her life is effectively going to disappear, with the grandchild pushed way down the pecking order. She may not have taken it well, but she probably deserves to be cut some slack.

The DD might come to terms with it in time, or she might not. The little ones might bond, or they might not. Either way, OP will have to accept it as the price of her life choices, in the same way that many posters are demanding that the DD come to terms with the new situation.

However, I don’t think the OP is that bothered about preserving the closeness with her elder daughter, judging by the tone of her replies - it all feels a bit ‘out with the old, in with the new’.

teacrumpetsandcake · 20/03/2024 16:40

Of course you were right to go ahead if it's what you want, OP. Your daughter is an adult and will come around - but at the end of the day, even if she doesn't, it's none of her business. I can understand why it will be odd for her that your child will be younger than hers, but that's how it goes sometimes - both of you had your first children very young, so it can and does happen.

Enjoy your pregnancy and give your daughter some space to get used to the idea.

boredaf · 20/03/2024 16:34

I have 5 siblings, the youngest who is 18 months younger than my eldest son. Bit of a shock sure, my dad wasn’t meant to even be able to have any more. But we had a laugh about it and moved on 🤷🏼‍♀️

Imo it’s a disproportionate reaction, but equally only she knows what’s going through her head. I’m wondering if the reason she’s upset goes beyond the reasons she’s given you. Then again, she could just be petty. But’d leave the dust to settle and make it clear the ball is in her court to come and discuss with you when she’s ready.

MissingMoominMamma · 20/03/2024 16:25

My mum and grandma’s pregnancies overlapped, so my uncle and me were born 7 months apart. We were best friends throughout childhood, and remained extremely close until his death last year.

I imagine the situation caused waves in their family at the time, but people just get on with it eventually.

Congratulations!

Krabappel · 20/03/2024 16:18

Why would her mother having another child make her less likely to be a 'babysitter'? She'll be at home on maternity for a year, not working.

Highly doubt she's upset for that reason. She has a partner of her own. The 1 year old comes 'occasionally'.

People are seriously reaching with this reasoning.

Reugny · 20/03/2024 15:40

Magicmonday24 · 20/03/2024 14:42

@pebblecity Seems your daughter is upset she won’t have a baby sitter as you’ll be looking after your own new baby.

also sounds like she needs to grow up.

Edited

Thing is she may still have a baby sitter. However it is likely to be more mutual care.

Imisssleep2 · 20/03/2024 15:16

You need to do what you want, she will adjust in time. Maybe if you share with her how hard your journey has been to get to this stage she will understand better? It's not like you have chosen this big an age gap, it has just taken that long to happen for you guys.

Congratulations x

Magicmonday24 · 20/03/2024 14:42

@pebblecity Seems your daughter is upset she won’t have a baby sitter as you’ll be looking after your own new baby.

also sounds like she needs to grow up.

Nosygirl01 · 20/03/2024 14:31

As a grown woman who wants a child and has tried for a while I don’t think you need to explain yourself to anyone. She doesn’t even live under your roof. Congratulations and good luck!

Blondebrunette1 · 20/03/2024 14:26

@pebblecity you know you're not in the wrong, and you're being very kind about this awful self absorbed reaction from your dd, who is also a mother so should have a lot more understanding of how hurtful the suggestion that this baby is not convenient or ok, is. I think your biggest concern should be, how do you go about instilling more morals in the first DD and strip away the childish entitlement of hers. Good luck and congratulations x

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 13:50

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 20/03/2024 11:13

I don’t think her daughter’s reaction was to be expected as many older DC feel the complete opposite

But this is a bit more than an older child getting a sibling. This is a young mum with a toddler who now has to get her head around the idea that she's getting a baby sibling who will be 24 years younger than her and nearly two years younger than her own child.

That's a very unusual scenario and not one that most people ever think will happen to them, especially as OP has never given her daughter any inkling that she wants to have another baby.

Nah I’m 40 and I have a 22 year old daughter and I also have a 7 year old half brother. Nobody bats an eyelid. My stepmother is 5 years older than me. It’s more common than you think.

BreakingAndBroke · 20/03/2024 13:49

She is being selfish and jealous. Ignore her reaction, she will come around.

Sako81 · 20/03/2024 13:48

Nothing to do with her. My daughter was 20 when my youngest was born. She wasn’t best pleased I was pregnant but now they have such a close bond, it’s lovely to see.

Lalalalala555 · 20/03/2024 13:42

I know someone who this happened to.
The older daughter decades on is still bitter.
But the parents are happy. And the younger daughter they had is nice.

Basically, she may always feel that way and project it.
But if you're bringing life into the world that you want to, dont let her opinion stop you!
You're younger daughter will be glad to exist I'm sure!

Its awful that you're other daughter is putting that level of pressure on you.
If she has feelings thats fair to her. But to then impose what she wants onto you is totally not okay.

You do you.