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To report car dealer neighbour for taking 5 parking spaces

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itswhatsinsidethatcounts · 17/03/2024 20:02

Hi all.

A neighbour who's moved into the estate recently is taking the utter piss with 'stealing' every available parking space in the area for his cars. I am almost certain he is dealing illegally and selling from home. As of this evening 5 bays are occupied by his cars, which I find ridiculously unfair and inconsiderate.

I'm annoyed as he's taken my space that I've been parking in for the last 9 years. I'm kind of forced to park in the unassigned bay next to it which I hate as it's so tight and awkward to get into. A few weeks ago, I was looking out of the window and I could see him really struggling to get his car in which is smaller than mine, so he just went and parked elsewhere. This was before he conveniently stole my space.

Would I be unreasonable for reporting him to the council?

OP posts:
twoshedsjackson · 18/03/2024 14:33

My late uncle had this problem, in his case a carpet dealership of all things; customers rolling up as and when, while lengths of carpet were measured out on the convenient driveway.
When the council sent an official to enquire, the new neighbour rather indignantly told the official, "I'm trying to run a business here, you know!"
"Exactly!" came the response, and he was smartly reminded that this was a residential area, not a business area.
You should check with your local council; in my uncle's case, an Outer London borough, but I am pretty certain that there will be tax implications.

Peekaboobo · 18/03/2024 14:22

Cas112 · 18/03/2024 13:25

Pop his tyres

How does one do that? (Asking for a friend).

Crumpleton · 18/03/2024 14:02

My first port of call would be checking each number plate against the national data base for MOT/TAX/Insurance.
Even a car thats been sorned shouldn't be on a public road.

If any aren't then I'd report to the relevant authorities.

If they're all up to date it's unlikely that anything can be done via the authorities but if you have a management team I'd ask them.

Seeline · 18/03/2024 13:38

Kwasi · 18/03/2024 13:09

Chang of use is if changes were being made to the building; the same is required if changing from a commercial property to residential. I run a business from home but no change of use is required. I just need the correct insurance.

No changes need to take place to the house for a change of use to occur.
If the use is having an impact on residential amenity then PP may be required. Things that might impact the decision are things like noise, disturbance, lots of visitors, impact on parking or highway safety, hours of use, smells and fumes, loss of privacy etc

Therefore if you are running a business such as accountantancy where you have no visitors to the house, you are unlikely to need PP.
Things like beauty services, personal training, kennels, car mechanics, car washing, car selling etc can definitely require PP.

Cas112 · 18/03/2024 13:25

Pop his tyres

randomchap · 18/03/2024 13:20

It's possibly legal but the dealer would need to check he has the right permissions

https://www.gov.uk/run-business-from-home

The local council would be the best place to report him I think.

Running a business from home

Running a business from home - insurance, business rates, expenses, tax allowances

https://www.gov.uk/run-business-from-home

Locutus2000 · 18/03/2024 13:14

ACynicalDad · 18/03/2024 12:58

Someone is filling a road near us to do this; I think the rule is that until they've been untaxed for two months, the authorities do nothing, so he leaves them for two months. Also, leaves the registered in the old owners' name as long as possible. It's awful and really annoying. If it is your space then tell the council/management company. If it's one you've habitually used you would need a way to stop the business or get him to move on. Do you know who owns the property, if it's rented maybe speak to the owner and let them know he's operating a business from there.

The DVLA jump on untaxed vehicles very quickly if they are reported. There was an untaxed Skoda on my road which was clamped and subsequently towed within 72hrs of reporting.

You can check if the vehicles are taxed with just the registration.

GOV.UK - Vehicle details

https://contact.dvla.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

Kwasi · 18/03/2024 13:09

CormorantStrikesBack · 18/03/2024 12:45

Change of use from residential to business. Council are shit hot about this and round here he would not get permission. Because of the excess visitors and traffic to a residential street. I'd be videoing all the test drives, photo the cars every day. And report.

Edited

Chang of use is if changes were being made to the building; the same is required if changing from a commercial property to residential. I run a business from home but no change of use is required. I just need the correct insurance.

ACynicalDad · 18/03/2024 12:58

Someone is filling a road near us to do this; I think the rule is that until they've been untaxed for two months, the authorities do nothing, so he leaves them for two months. Also, leaves the registered in the old owners' name as long as possible. It's awful and really annoying. If it is your space then tell the council/management company. If it's one you've habitually used you would need a way to stop the business or get him to move on. Do you know who owns the property, if it's rented maybe speak to the owner and let them know he's operating a business from there.

randomchap · 18/03/2024 12:58

Can you check on autotrader/ebay to see if the cars are listed there?

If so get friends and family to contact him for test drives at unreasonable and annoying times, and then not turn up.

Peekaboobo · 18/03/2024 12:49

5 cars is taking the piss.

I'd be checking every single car to see whether they are taxed and insured and i'd be rreporting any that weren't.

I'd also report him to HMRC to say that he's running a car business and not paying any taxes. Don't worry about providing evidence. thats for police and HMRC to worry about - all you have to do is report it so that they can investigate it.

CCLCECSC · 18/03/2024 12:45

It is worthy of a conversation with your local council planning enforcement team. The question will come down to whether he is parking on land that he owns

CormorantStrikesBack · 18/03/2024 12:45

Kwasi · 18/03/2024 12:35

Planning for what? He’ll just need the correct insurance for the vehicles.

Change of use from residential to business. Council are shit hot about this and round here he would not get permission. Because of the excess visitors and traffic to a residential street. I'd be videoing all the test drives, photo the cars every day. And report.

Lazypeopledrivemecrazy · 18/03/2024 12:44

Sorry OP, I know it must be annoying that he's taking up so many spaces, but you seem to be skirting the question as to whether the parking space he took is actually allocated to YOU personally, or whether you've just had the privilege of using it, unchallenged for the last 9 years, and if that's the case, this sounds rather like sour grapes to me.

Kwasi · 18/03/2024 12:35

Seeline · 18/03/2024 09:09

If he is running the business from his home, it is highly likely he would require planning permission.

Planning for what? He’ll just need the correct insurance for the vehicles.

TesticularHeft · 18/03/2024 10:33

If the space is allocated to you then ask him not to park in it. Simple as that.

It's not illegal to run a car selling business from your home. Loads do it. Look on autotrader, you'll prob see he is set up as a trader.

BunniesRUs · 18/03/2024 09:14

Is it actually illegal to run a business from home? It sounds very annoying and inconsiderate so I'm not defending him, just wondering why it would be illegal.

Itscatsallthewaydown · 18/03/2024 09:10

Yes, do it! What a wanker.

Seeline · 18/03/2024 09:09

If he is running the business from his home, it is highly likely he would require planning permission.

SOBplus · 18/03/2024 08:58

As I said on another parking thread, the same happened to us but they were using everyone's driveways and the police said there is nothing they could do as there were no signs prohibiting public parking on the private drives. It was a cash sales car business and they keep moving around as no overhead means much more profit. (they used the neighborhood for approximately 10 days and then moved on. As long as the vehicles are taxed apparently they can use as many spaces as they want if there aren't correctly posted prohibitions!

itswhatsinsidethatcounts · 18/03/2024 08:53

BobbyBiscuits · 17/03/2024 23:41

Have you proof he's running a car sales business? I'm not sure but if he's claiming to just sell them personally then it might not be a breach. Could you get someone to contact him saying they heard he might be selling cars?
But if it's inconsiderate parking anyway then that enough to report. Take photos though.

I don't have physical proof. But, people come outside his house to view the cars and test drive almost everyday. I've not taken pictures or videos because I wasn't too bothered until he took my space.

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Kwasi · 18/03/2024 08:52

If parking for residents and visitors is formally allocated, you have every right to complain.

You have no proof he is doing business from home or breaking any business rules, so I wouldn’t go there if I were you.

itswhatsinsidethatcounts · 18/03/2024 08:50

ilovebreadsauce · 18/03/2024 05:46

How many people live in the house? We probably annoyed the neighbours with 5 cars outside.

There's just 2 if them in the house.

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itswhatsinsidethatcounts · 18/03/2024 08:48

DoggieMommie · 17/03/2024 23:35

Are the cars taxed?

He drives a lot of them so I presume they are. But I haven't checked.

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lala567 · 18/03/2024 05:53

I'm annoyed as he's taken my space that I've been parking in for the last 9 years

This sounds like it's not your space but you just use it. Is it allocated to you?

He must be using other allocated spaces or is it all the visitor ones?