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AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

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Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:27

Item in the news- Dacorum Borough Council have stopped issuing fines for wild wees in lay-bys.
I know that this is on a technicality (anti littering law used and wild wees not classed as litter) but I think people weeing in lay-bys is appalling. It should be subject to fines. I can forgive toddlers/ young children but not adults. There are solutions for those with medical conditions that mean urgent wees are a symptom. And it’s always men. Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic. AIBU?

OP posts:
soupfiend · 17/03/2024 09:37

Chairwoman · 17/03/2024 09:35

It’s not always men. But men get blamed for everything on here 🤣

I’ve also been desperate, no services for ages. Pulled up, two doors open and squatted between (so nobody could see me). Job done!

And I’ve had 3 kids too, not sure how that’s relevant. I can usually hold my bladder very well but it was one of those things!

Actually that reminds me, I had to do it at Gatwick in the long stay car park once, huge traffic delays and I could barely move with pain by the time we got there, let alone get my suitcase on the bus and then travel to the airport and find the loo, had to use the car doors and hope no one saw me. Cameras all around too.

LlynTegid · 17/03/2024 09:37

If it is the driver, then it should be points on their licence. If they really have a defence, they can argue it in court.

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 09:35

@lifebeginsaftercoffee indeed, me too. In the country where no one can see me and where my wee will not contribute to making a stinky public area. I’m not disgusted by wee per se, contrary to the suggestion of my misogynist “friend “ @5thCommandment .
I think @LostMySocks and @DonnaBanana get my drift more than the “what-if” situations posed. Yeah, I’ve been in multiple hours queues on motorways, yes, I know there will always be the odd case of circumstances needing desperate measures. But I think a lot of us know that the majority of the men that are seen visibly weeing in public amenities aren’t doing it because they have medical conditions. Don’t worry @cerebuswannabe, I won’t be ringing up the Jeremy Vine programme or sending my thoughts in to Question Time. . I thought AIBU on a Sunday morning was the right kind of time and place for such musings. Best get back to thinking about more pressing issues 😁

OP posts:
Chairwoman · 17/03/2024 09:35

It’s not always men. But men get blamed for everything on here 🤣

I’ve also been desperate, no services for ages. Pulled up, two doors open and squatted between (so nobody could see me). Job done!

And I’ve had 3 kids too, not sure how that’s relevant. I can usually hold my bladder very well but it was one of those things!

Terribletooths · 17/03/2024 09:35

Have a weak bladder. Have done may a wild wee, and yes it’s cleaner than most public toilets and I am discreet. In a bush.

the times I’ve held it in on long drives, I’ve given myself a UTI so there.

TheGhostOfKatesProlapse · 17/03/2024 09:34

There's one next to a field we used to walk the dog, until the fence broke and dogs ran through to get to everything the truckers left 😱Frequently seeing adult men pissing in the bin the Highways eventually provided, shitting next to it, tossing food around it... It's flashing and not what anyone wants to see next to a public footpath or with kids in the car.

Nightblindness · 17/03/2024 09:33

You don't see women weeing because to wee they have to expose themselves from the waist down! So they go out of sight. Whereas men only have to expose a tiny part of their anatomy from the front. Often, at a quick glance, they can appear to be doing nothing more than admiring the view. So I imagine they feel they can get away with not having to hide themselves away. I can't blame them, if I am honest.

Obviously I don't condone blatant exhibitionism but I have often been out walking with my dh or sons, brother, father, etc and realised a bit late that they were not looking at the view but weeing (well, doing both at the same time usually).

QueenCamilla · 17/03/2024 09:32

I've done a "Paula Radcliffe" when caught with sudden urgency walking on a country road.
I've also urinated on Acropolis when a crazy Greek lady mop-chased me out of the toilets. Closed for cleaning, I assume...

I'll await the police now. And Interpol.

Gowlett · 17/03/2024 09:32

My dad has to. He has man pads too. But he can’t hold it.

user1567879654445 · 17/03/2024 09:30

We have a lay-by that is less than 400m from a garage big enough to have all the facilities including a costa coffee, M and S shop, lorry parking etc, you can actually see it from the lay-by in one direction, and would have driven past it coming from the other.
There is also a massive motorway service station 1/2 a mile away.
Still people wee, and worse, much much worse 🤢 it’s utterly disgusting! And then the littering on top of that…I despair of people!

IClaudine · 17/03/2024 09:30

How do you know the lay-bys stink of wee? Why are you stopping in them?

Wild weeing is fine.

TomeTome · 17/03/2024 09:30

Better than dog shit.

ohdamnitjanet · 17/03/2024 09:29

onawave · 17/03/2024 09:11

There was a time years ago when I got stuck in a 7 hour jam because of the dartford bridge being closed that involved a Costa coffee cup and me contorting myself into a position that was pretty undignified. I wish I'd been able to get to a lay-by.

Look up Sarah Millican in a similar situation. She moved to the passenger seat, had a wee, shifted back, and if memory serves later blamed it on a probably non-existent dog.

PrincessTeaSet · 17/03/2024 09:29

Runnerduck34 · 17/03/2024 09:24

Actually I think it should be really discouraged.
(Children who are potty training being the exception)
Some places reek of wee- doorways, carparks etc.
There should be a lot more public toilets.
How many women do you see if laybys off motorways having a wee? There must be women out there with bladder issues!
If its an adult it's always a man, I dont recall ever seeing a woman pubicly wee.

I think it's rarely to do with bladder control but because as a society we accept men weeing in public but not women .

I often wee in public. I would try to be out of sight though as don't want people to see my bum. It's illegal to stop on the hard shoulder though, I don't see people weeing on the motorway very often.

mondaytosunday · 17/03/2024 09:29

Gosh I had no idea you could get fined for this! Picked my son up from hospital and we had to pull over twice for him to be sick. And last three hour drive had to pull over for him to have a wee twice! There's nothing wrong with him but if you gotta go you gotta go. He is discreet however he went in to the bushes so couldn't be seen.
I had a desperate drive back from the airport once and if I was a man I would have pulled over. Found muscles I didn't know I had!

alwaysmovingforwards · 17/03/2024 09:27

VladsPants · 17/03/2024 08:49

I cant get upset by folk have a wee in a lay-by.

Me neither.

PrincessTeaSet · 17/03/2024 09:26

I don't like dog wee and poo everywhere either. I can't see human wee in a layby any worse than dog excrement all over pavements, parks etc. I would tackle the dog issue first as it's much more widespread

ohdamnitjanet · 17/03/2024 09:24

CormorantStrikesBack · 17/03/2024 08:52

Even if people used a she wee I doubt they’re going to carry a bottle of piss all day with them. People would be annoyed if someone was trundling round a shop with piss tucked under their arm.

Think you for my first laugh today 😂

mrsbyers · 17/03/2024 09:24

Don’t see an issue at all , I have to stop and empty my stoma bag at times

Cornettoninja · 17/03/2024 09:24

NoCloudsAllowed · 17/03/2024 09:22

I think instead of she wees, women need some kind of pop up tube you can shield yourself in

perhaps wee walls? Keep it all in one area?

Runnerduck34 · 17/03/2024 09:24

Actually I think it should be really discouraged.
(Children who are potty training being the exception)
Some places reek of wee- doorways, carparks etc.
There should be a lot more public toilets.
How many women do you see if laybys off motorways having a wee? There must be women out there with bladder issues!
If its an adult it's always a man, I dont recall ever seeing a woman pubicly wee.

I think it's rarely to do with bladder control but because as a society we accept men weeing in public but not women .

Horaced · 17/03/2024 09:23

I'd rather they focused on litter. It's not something I've done often but it happens. If you travel a lot on motorways like the M6 or M1 it's easy to imagine there are services all over the place but it's really not the case. It's pretty easy to be caught short in sparsely populated areas like the Highlands.

Candlestickholder · 17/03/2024 09:23

I'm always slightly surprised at those who haven't done wild wees.

I used to walk a lot so on a long walk pretty much everyone would wild wee at some point... Discretely but yes.

Layby wees. In our family it's usually me (a woman). My bladder isnt great and can't wait for a hours. It was worse when pregnant and when struggling with a reoccurring cystitis. (I hated pregnant emergency wees) but even now we do emergency wees on longer trips.

Yes of course we "wee before we go" but there are lots of roads without services. Maybe it depends where you drive. If you just do motorway out of London I'd imagine you have services.

There's quite a few 2.5 hour routes we do that usually I'm fine for but say once a year I'm not.

And I imagine the "it's always me" is because they're happy to stand there and have the world watch them.

Id open both car doors and squat between the other side to the road so anyone driving past wouldn't know. (or go behind a bush if there's a bush. There often isn't).

Id say its more that women are discrete.

But yay to all those people with strong bladders or who only travel on routes with services!! But please don't criticise those of us who get caught out because you can't imagine it happening.

hopscotcher · 17/03/2024 09:23

I once had a wee in a layby. It was 5 a.m. and the road was quiet so I hoped I'd get away with it. If I'd thought I could get arrested that would have given it an extra exciting edge.

RaininSummer · 17/03/2024 09:23

Never done it yet but came close on last drive to the A303. Very few loos to be found. Had to scuttle into Macdonald's and pretend I was there to buy something.