AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

The road that my drive leads off has become just like a lay-by as it's hidden away. The number of cars parked up and even buses and lorries is increasing and it's becoming an open toilet. It's fucking disgusting and although there's vegetation to one side people piss all over the road and on the side with the houses on. As there's no pavement i have to walk with the kids through it all so yes it does affect people.

It's also littered with takeaway packaging where people park up in the evening and lots park up at lunch time so throw all their rubbish into the road. People don't give a shit how they affect others and not having rules/fines just lets people think it's fine for them to do it.

I've never peed outside and as I have 2 toddlers who will be potty training soon I've got 2 portable potties with bags that collect the wee, so they absolutely will not be peeing anywhere they feel like either.

The ONLY excuse in my view is medical reasons. I'm sure most people with a medical condition will be mitigating the problems as much as possible, not just thinking 'well I can, so I will' like the majority of people pissing in lay-bys regularly.
For the record, I've never seen a woman pissing all over my street in broad daylight, just men.

So where to go then .loo In a layby on favourite route is locked at 5pm.you couldn't make it up.several miles to garage/loo!

I've pissed in layby. I don't really see the problem with it. I've been on (non motorway) journeys where I just can't see any other option and need a wee, so I just do it in a layby. If pissing in laybys becomes a problem, I suppose I could piss in my car onto a puppy pad and put that in the bin. Much less friendly to the environment. And I'd feel safer pissing in a layby than in a random public toilet.

Like a lot of stuff in the UK, we have rubbish facilities and then moan when people have to act outside of those facilities.

If people are weeing at particular lay-by there is clearly a need for a loo.

Lots of lay-by on continent have loos.

I really can't get worked up about this, it's not like anyone goes to a layby to spend quality time there.

I find your post so endearing. Reminds me of my mum! Once a gardener, always a gardener

I’m a woman. Wee’d (weed?) in many a lay by. Often nipped into bushes when I walked our old dog, too.

I think there should perhaps be rules about where people wee but if it's behind a bush outside for example does it matter?

The defence is perfectly simple and very valid - if you're bursting for a wee then you're distracted and an unsafe driver.

Exactly this. And I've found some European countries are far better than the UK at providing places at regular intervals to stop for a pee.

But there's no legal requirement for the UK's cash-strapped councils (or highway bodies) to provide toilets which means they've closed in record numbers all over the country in the past few years. We've already lost an estimated 50% of all our public toilets in the past ten years and frankly there weren't enough to begin with. Until there is a statutory requirement to provide enough loos for the public to use that's not going to change.

Long-distance HGV drivers sometimes park up overnight in a village near me. They're supposed to use designated rest areas on motorways/main roads but a) there aren't enough of them and b) they can cost a lot. It means residents have had to deal with bags of excrement and plastic bottles full of pee being left behind. Obviously that's utterly foul, inexcusable and a health hazard but the drivers point out there just aren't enough facilities for them to use on the road network. And it's well known that delivery drivers who are on the road for hours on end can end up peeing in bottles or in public because there are too few public toilets available (although their schedules can be so ridiculous they might not have time to track one down anyway).

So even though it's nasty I can't get that upset about someone of either sex discreetly peeing in a layby when they can't hold on long enough to find a toilet. And I don't think people should be fined by government when it's national and local government who are responsible for the lack of toilets.

Re urine, it's female urine that damages plant life, we shouldn't piss on the compost heap, but it's useful for men to.

Ok, but plenty of other women have

I have a medical problem and can't always wait without severe discomfort and further damage.
Never done it in the street or an alleyway.

Have gone in a layby. Or in bushes on a walk.
Tried using the she wee but I couldn't do it in the car. Still meant I had to get out pull my knickers and trousers down to use it. Much easier to go in a bush.

They knocked down our public WC and the pubs etc have signs saying for paying customers only. Seems to be happening all over England.

Driving in Europe the facilities ae much better and cleaner.

I don't mind paying to use clean loos as you do in Belgium etc.

I'm old enough to remember public toilets everywhere. Unfortunately they became places for rough sleepers, sex workers, drug users and gay hook up sites. It was the lack of public disorder/anti social etc laws that closed our toilets. They'd be unusable if they did exsit.
A lot of men don't want to use the gents because of the state they get in, they'd rather go outside. However out of everything going wrong in the UK, we don't need to criminalise this.

Humans need to drink and then they need to wee. We choose to ignore this fact by having fewer and fewer public toilets, but that will not change the reality. I object to public weeing when other alternatives are available, but where there is no other alternative? I can't get angry about it.

Don't be ridiculous! My OH is a Truck driver. One drop takes him around 3 hours to get too and there isn't anywhere other than lay by's in which he can pull into should he need to go for a piss. It's not like he park a 26 tonne Truck up a side street so he wonder round trying to find a toilet and nor should he have to not drink anything until he either gets to his drop or back to depot

Cornet, I've never wee'd at the side of a road, so never had to risk my fanny being seen

It’s normally men because whilst there stood there weeing in a bush it’s obvious what they are doing but there is nothing on show
women have to squat and undress

FFS!

Can't get upset about this.

We make a three hour car journey every three weeks (kids aged between 12 and 5), husband and I...and we quite often have to pull over so someone can have a wee. I try not to...I seem to end up weeing on my ankles most of the time - but I have gone between two doors. I'm not risking unsafe driving or getting a uti, and there are no services in a good chunk of the road we drive along.

Everyone is discreet (open two doors and go between or walk further into bushes)

So?

There are not nearly enough roadside toilets in the UK. My DD (12) has a small bladder and anxiety about needing the toilet. Sometimes she has to go when we are on a long journey and we are miles from the nearest services. We drive in France every year and there are frequent roadside toilets (sometimes a bit grim, but still a toilet!).

so’s ‘getting your fanny out’ - animals urinate, it’s just a fact that it’s out of bits humans generally like to keep private.

Lay-bys are by their design situated in locations that are hard to find elsewhere to pull over and park up. I’ve never seen anyone facing the road proudly displaying their genitalia at the roadside making sure anyone going past gets a good look, I’m pretty sure that’s not just me being naive. men will definitely be more obvious by their anatomical set up, they can use their body for some amount of shield.

I do not want to see a bloke having a wee. I find it really entitled that men will stand in full view of a motorway and do that.

Just because men can whip their penis out easily doesn't mean that should.

And I don't care if they are being "discreet" they should move from full view. It's disgraceful.