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AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

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Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:27

Item in the news- Dacorum Borough Council have stopped issuing fines for wild wees in lay-bys.
I know that this is on a technicality (anti littering law used and wild wees not classed as litter) but I think people weeing in lay-bys is appalling. It should be subject to fines. I can forgive toddlers/ young children but not adults. There are solutions for those with medical conditions that mean urgent wees are a symptom. And it’s always men. Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic. AIBU?

OP posts:
Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 13:21

Someone earlier asked me
Why am I stopping in lay-bys? Strange you feel the need to challenge me on that but if you want to know then reasons like this:
to make a phone call
to find a tissue in my bag
to have a drink
to find and take a paracetamol for a headache
to tune in my radio
to get out of my car to have a stretch
What a bizarre response.

OP posts:
justasking111 · 17/03/2024 13:16

Wild wees are fine. Volunteering for a litter collection finding bottles full of wee isn't. Please carry on wild weeing. Your bottles are heavy emptying them very unpleasant

bubblebutt88 · 17/03/2024 13:00

What's the issue? Usually it will be into foliage and in pavement areas it will be washed away by the rain.

Genuinely believe that the people who moan about this sort of trivial stuff have zero understanding about any kind of bowel/bladder incontinence issues. Educate yourself.

Redcar78 · 17/03/2024 13:00

When you've got to go you've got to go, if I get caught short I'll happily go in the nearest layby 🤷‍♀️

Prelapsarianhag · 17/03/2024 12:58

I have had many a wild wee - don't be such a judgy pants.

Handyweatherstation · 17/03/2024 12:54

During my childhood, my parents would pull over next to a field gate and we'd climb over and find ourselves some privacy in the hedgerow.

The last time I peed outdoors was in the Cairmgorms. It was a long journey with nowhere to stop and I was desperate. OH pulled over and I nipped up a steep bank and over the other side, out of sight. Pulled down my trousers and let go, then looked around me. It was glorious - sunny day, warm breeze around my nethers, a valley full of flowering heather, absolutely beautiful and the best al fresco pee I've ever had.

UseOfWeapons · 17/03/2024 12:49

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:49

@Ofcourseshecan Well I’ve had 3 kids, interstitial cystitis (and an enormous ovarian cyst) so you could say I have had a share of desperate for a wee experiences …. But I’ve never had a wee in a lay-by. Also … she-wees/ and whatever they are called for men (large necked bottle!) for those who need them. …?

My frail elderly parents both had to have a wee Ona slip road the other day. You must be disgusted, OP. Their car broke down a mile from home, they had only been shopping locally, and Green Flag took an hour and a half to get to them. They are both on diuretics, and as they are both disabled, were unable to walk the 200 yards to a car showroom to use their toilets. They felt humiliated by their inability to reach a toilet, and by having to go in plain sight. In my opinion and experience, people don’t have a wee outside, unless they really have to.

suburburban · 17/03/2024 12:43

tryingtohelp82 · 17/03/2024 12:37

@suburburban Grim isn't it, I walk along A roads a lot and the litter is horrific. Some people blame it on foreign lorry drivers with different standards in their countries but it's always been like this. I see cars chucking stuff out. So many animals about

Yes just awful

Without sounding self righteous my dc would never throw litter and nor would I, find it so hard to understand

tryingtohelp82 · 17/03/2024 12:38

And yes usually men.

tryingtohelp82 · 17/03/2024 12:37

@suburburban Grim isn't it, I walk along A roads a lot and the litter is horrific. Some people blame it on foreign lorry drivers with different standards in their countries but it's always been like this. I see cars chucking stuff out. So many animals about

tryingtohelp82 · 17/03/2024 12:35

@SpringSprungALeak No I tried them as a teenager and it went everywhere!

Callie222 · 17/03/2024 12:35

@soupfiend I said it was a DIY back seat loo Easter Grin Let me spell it out for you. I kneel on back seat, put the jug over my fanjo and wee in it. If i can i throw it in the hedge, if not then a bottle until I can dispose of it properly. I wipe and put the paper in a nappy sack and tie it up. I rinse the jug and spray it with anti bac. Then I wash my hands.

Oh I forgot to mention that I pull my trousers back up before continuing my journey. Sometimes I do a moonie at a passing coach of football supporters if I'm in a mischievous mood.

BigHoops · 17/03/2024 12:34

Not sure how old you are OP but you would have hated the early 80s - the drive to my grandparents took around three hours and service stations weren't really much of a thing or certainly not on that route. So mid journey we'd all stop in the same layby for a wee although was usually just me, DB and DM, DF wouldn't.

Yes it's not ideal and obvs in this day and age there are many service stations. But if you're stuck in traffic and may not be able to get to a ss for another hour or so and you're desperate...well there's no judgement here. I suffer from a very weak bladder and prolapse issues which mean if I 'hold it in' it's actually much worse for me. I've never had to resort to a layby wee as an adult but to know it's an option helps my anxiety.

Although don't think I've ever seen anyone weeing in a layby for years now??

Loubelle70 · 17/03/2024 12:33

We never know anyones medical condition . My daughter had colitis...my sister incontinence...men still have urinary issues. Yes you said bar anyone with medical issues but policing that? Embarassing.
Sometimes cant wait and its urgent. Just make sure try to limit what others can view

suburburban · 17/03/2024 12:33

Also if people are on tight driving schedules or working in a remote location it can be difficult to have accessible toilets

suburburban · 17/03/2024 12:31

Terrribletwos · 17/03/2024 08:56

I would rather the incredible amount of litter on our highways and byways was dealt with, it's a far bigger and more unsightly problem.

Yes agree about the litter and don't understand people doing this

ringoutsolsticebells · 17/03/2024 12:30

Yes, YABU

Hopingitsahornyfinger · 17/03/2024 12:28

Bulkypeepants · 17/03/2024 08:56

Yep, it is always men. I've peed outside before, but not in view of the public. Don't know why men feel so entitled that they think it's acceptable for everyone else to have to watch them empty their bladder. YANBU.

Totally agree - YANBU Op!

TesticularHeft · 17/03/2024 12:24

I drive a lot for work and I always see men weeing. I often see their piss stream and that offends me. I once saw a man doing a shit in a lay-by. I couldn't see it but he was squatting trousers down. Half of me was disgusted and part of me felt bad a she must have been caught short/ill etc.

DP has a 250ml bladder at most and has been known to enjoy a few beers as we drive ti a holiday destination or maybe for a day out. We constantly have to pull over but he is discreet and polite about it. doesn't stop me being mortified. he is his own person so it is what it is.

Chonk · 17/03/2024 12:22

IBegYourBiggestPardon · 17/03/2024 10:13

Don't be ridiculous! My OH is a Truck driver. One drop takes him around 3 hours to get too and there isn't anywhere other than lay by's in which he can pull into should he need to go for a piss. It's not like he park a 26 tonne Truck up a side street so he wonder round trying to find a toilet and nor should he have to not drink anything until he either gets to his drop or back to depot

@IBegYourBiggestPardon Your OH is the one being ridiculous by not being prepared for a situation which is likely to occur. Why can't he pull over and use a portable male urinal in his cab, seal it and then empty it into a toilet at the next services? Too lazy?

cardibach · 17/03/2024 12:20

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:59

@VladsPants upset is overstating it but it’s pretty gross to pull up in a lay-by that stinks like a massive urinal. (Have experienced that). @PanadTe you are right, we are massively behind in this way.
I do have the utmost respect for people with a medical reason for urgency…, been there to a degree and so did my late father.
I bet most people who do “invest” in a solution and aren’t the ones blatantly pissing in front of the passing traffic and making lay-bys stink.

You don’t think it more likely stinks because people’s dogs have been let out on leads? I see that more often than people. And I can’t get that worked up about it.

EC22 · 17/03/2024 12:20

When you gotta go you gotta go.

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 12:19

@WhatHoJeeves Exactly this.
No problem with wild wees per se. There’s nuance and some people don’t get that it seems.

OP posts:
WhatHoJeeves · 17/03/2024 12:15

There definitely aren't enough public toilets in this country. I have no problem with an emergency wee, done discreetly.

However, in our area, I've seen men over the past few years standing in full view of traffic and walkers, a big stream of wee flowing. They could stand behind their car, by the hedge, but no, they're right in the open. It feels like a deliberate act to do it so publicly. It is definitely a new thing as I didn't see any men doing it this openly until recently.

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 17/03/2024 12:08

it’s always men I see doing it

That's because men can wee standing up anywhere, whereas women have to squat and go somewhere a bit more hidden.