AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

Me too. I don't see the harm in it.

Anyone who is bothered should start campaigning for more public toilet provision, then it wouldn't be necessary.

Former wild-wee-er here too, I still would in an emergency and I'd have no option to use a shee-wee (I just can't, not physically possible).

The difference is most women are inclined to do it discreetly, out of sight wherever possible. Some men are more inclined to do it in sight of others (even if you can't actually see any penis at all) because they don't have the hang ups women have about it as they aren't baring nearly as much as we'd have to.

And a few men will do it in sight of others just to be utter dicks.

I'd far rather litter particularly metal, plastics and broken glass were picked up or not left in the first place, its significantly more of a risk to everyone than wee!

You have been informed countless times that women do indeed pee in lay-bys but do so discreetly - so you must be better than us by not doing it at all - discreetly or otherwise.
People have mentioned a plethora of reasons, including remote locations, long tailbacks etc and you're still doubling down on the ickyness and the smell like this isn't an emergency.

Men that get their knobs out in the middle of the road or in the street are a problem anywhere and everywhere in life, but the majority of us aren't doing that.

I presume that's because you don't have any health issues surrounding toileting, not everyone is that lucky.

Flipping Amazon drivers
In lockdown I picked it up (with a bag) and gave it back to him the next day. He looked very shocked. It was a 500ml Pepsi type bottle. He just threw it out his open door as he drove off.

Then we have an alcoholic who lives round the corner who goes to the local shop for cans at least 3 times a day and regularly leans over garden walls to vomit, pees wherever he feels like and has been known to shit on people's gardens and regularly in the snickets. So a bit of lay-by peeing is not a problem to me.

Urinating isn’t the problem as the liquid will be absorbed into the ground.

It’s the bottles of pee which are dumped everywhere. My Wombles group refers to them as drivers tizer. Even seen a ten litre bottle of it! How long did it take to fill it??

Then we find bags of human poo! Some are even in adult nappies. The smell is bloody disgusting.

One thing is that truck and van drivers facilities are very poor across the country.

Some drivers have regular customers/deliveries and use the toilet there. Some places still refuse the drivers to use the loos even after this time!

You lost me at the 'if I can manage then everybody else can' school of thought.

It's what you're implying though isn't it? Your use of the word 'appalling' in your op suggests so. Has it not occurred to you that some people do it because they have to, not because they choose to? And yes examining other peoples toilet habits does make you nosey imo.

On a tour in India there were some long days on the bus, every couple of hours out in the country the bus would stop for a 'bush stop', men one side of the road and the women on the other!

We had a female postie for a few years and I told her she could use our loo if she needed to.

Yes totally agree. DS is often in this quandry in his line of work

All those arguing that with their back to the road, the men pissing on hard shoulders and laybys can't be seen ... Yes, they can - as you approach them from the side you can often see exactly what's happening, especially as it often happens in slow traffic. Just find a bush or a bit of cover for God's sake, or I will call you an exhibitionist.

This.

*puts hand up, I definitely asked.

fair enough, I haven’t, nor travelled with anyone, who felt the need over any distance to use a lay-by for any of those things. Genuinely, it’s just not something that has ever cropped up. The lay-by’s I see usually have a hgv in them or what I presume are break downs (or now people answering natures call).

I just think it’s a fairly odd and slightly vulnerable place to stop if you don’t have to (although maybe I listen to too many serial killer podcasts).

When my scaffolder was here last week (before this news story) I asked him if he and his mate wanted to use the toilet and we had a good long chat about it because most ordinary people do not realise the massive issue it is for men on the road. My son was a delivery driver for 4 years. There are very few facilities anywhere. One reason it is hard to get lorry drivers in the UK is because unlike France there are not lovely places you can stop the lorry with toilets. Instead drivers have just about no facilities in the UK and no one cares unless they happen to know about the issue.

Remember also how the widespread closure of public toilets during lockdown (not “the pandemic”) acted as a urinary leash, when the only thing you were allowed to do was go for walk, with the mythical 1-hour limit.

I see a lot of of dicks out on display on the road between kettering and the M1
It must be a local thing.

At first glance I thought there was some campaign against people weeping [in cars] in lay-bys, something I've done in my time; it's a right I would defend heartily. But now I can put my battleaxe down.

I presume that you are someone that has not travelled widely or ever got stuck in a major traffic jam.

I cannot stand when you can see the stream of it, they should at least stand behind a tree.

anyway - me and the kids amuse ourselves by opening the window and shouting ‘pee pee, wee wee’ at them… childish yes… but hilarious to my toddlers and an innocent giggle 🤣

Not always men, I do this