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AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

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Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:27

Item in the news- Dacorum Borough Council have stopped issuing fines for wild wees in lay-bys.
I know that this is on a technicality (anti littering law used and wild wees not classed as litter) but I think people weeing in lay-bys is appalling. It should be subject to fines. I can forgive toddlers/ young children but not adults. There are solutions for those with medical conditions that mean urgent wees are a symptom. And it’s always men. Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic. AIBU?

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NoCloudsAllowed · 17/03/2024 09:22

I think instead of she wees, women need some kind of pop up tube you can shield yourself in

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 17/03/2024 09:22

Can't get upset or offended by this

tacosforbreakfast · 17/03/2024 09:21

I have in the past stopped in a layby and opened both doors and had a wee when stuck in an enormous tailback. A 20 min journey took 3 hours.

I had never had it happen before (or since!) and I had nothing in the car that I could have used and I wouldn't have a shewee in the car for the once in however many years I might need it.

Nightblindness · 17/03/2024 09:21

I can't get worked up by this and people definitely shouldn't be fined for answering a call of nature! I would prefer to wee al fresco than in many of the public toilets I have visited. It's a cleaner, more hygienic experience imo.

That said, it should be done discreetly. And without littering the ground with toilet paper/ tissues. I would always go out of sight. But I think a lot of women moaning about men doing it in plain sight are a tad envious of the ease of urination male equipment affords them. Well, I know I am!

Cazpar · 17/03/2024 09:21

Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic.

Speak for yourself. I once drove an hour and a half along the A66 on new year's day with absolutely nowhere open to stop for a wee. By the time I found a suitable layby I was practically in tears.

Cornettoninja · 17/03/2024 09:20

@Thriftnugget It also occurs to me that if you don’t want to pull up in a lay-by because of urine smells, can you just not travel on further like you want others to do?

it’s genuinely perplexing to me why this is such an issue for you, is it a regular issue?. Just find the next appropriate place to stop for whatever it is you wanted to do in the lay-by.

midgetastic · 17/03/2024 09:20

Wee isn't a problem - it doesn't carry anything harmful

Litter is
Poo is

If you have ever had a toddler you will know sometimes they just can't wait

Or a long traffic jam

Any number of illnesses and disabilities

Or any routes that don't have loads of services - there are quite a few multi hour trips that would not pass much except for some foul single uncleaned toilet in the petrol station where the chance of catching something nasty would be real

NotQuiteNorma · 17/03/2024 09:20

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:27

Item in the news- Dacorum Borough Council have stopped issuing fines for wild wees in lay-bys.
I know that this is on a technicality (anti littering law used and wild wees not classed as litter) but I think people weeing in lay-bys is appalling. It should be subject to fines. I can forgive toddlers/ young children but not adults. There are solutions for those with medical conditions that mean urgent wees are a symptom. And it’s always men. Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic. AIBU?

Well let's hope you never get prostate or bladder cancer and lose control of your bladder in public then. Afterall bladder cancer just waits till you get home for a wee doesn't it....

NoCloudsAllowed · 17/03/2024 09:20

So you stop in a lay by and think 'oh this would be such a nice place if it didn't smell of piss'?

Lay bys are horrible, mainly because of passing traffic. What harm does it do to piss in them? I'd rather people did that than see the bottles of piss lorry drivers throw out 😩the rain washes it away.

Way bigger problems

MiltonNorthern · 17/03/2024 09:20

I have peed in lay-bys several times. YABU.

Soontobe60 · 17/03/2024 09:19

Bulkypeepants · 17/03/2024 08:56

Yep, it is always men. I've peed outside before, but not in view of the public. Don't know why men feel so entitled that they think it's acceptable for everyone else to have to watch them empty their bladder. YANBU.

You do know that when you’re driving you should be keeping your eyes on the road don’t you?

leafybrew · 17/03/2024 09:19

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:49

@Ofcourseshecan Well I’ve had 3 kids, interstitial cystitis (and an enormous ovarian cyst) so you could say I have had a share of desperate for a wee experiences …. But I’ve never had a wee in a lay-by. Also … she-wees/ and whatever they are called for men (large necked bottle!) for those who need them. …?

Bully for you and well done OP

Unfortunately not everyone is perfect like you.

gannett · 17/03/2024 09:17

bombastix · 17/03/2024 09:15

Correct. I would reserve your ire for people who pee in the street. Now that is disgusting

No, reserve your ire for councils who've shut public loos, and governments which have forced them to do so by slashing funding.

Good lord people on this site just love to look down at individuals rather than look up to get angry at the actual causes.

TheGreatGherkin · 17/03/2024 09:16

There is something about an al fresco wee and having a breeze blowing on your cheeks. This is something I can't get worked up about, if you've got to go you've got to go. Urine is good for plants anyway, plenty of nitrogen.

bombastix · 17/03/2024 09:15

Magnastorm · 17/03/2024 09:06

Meh. Who cares, it's just wee. Doesn't hurt anyone or anything.

Correct. I would reserve your ire for people who pee in the street. Now that is disgusting

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gannett · 17/03/2024 09:13

Focus your energy on campaigning for an improvement in the appalling provision of public loos in this country then. Just turning your nose up because "it's disgusting" doesn't cut it.

Tumbleweed101 · 17/03/2024 09:13

Facilities closing during the pandemic led to a lot of wild wees in places like seaside towns. Its either we provide services or people will have answer the call of nature in less than ideal places.

soupfiend · 17/03/2024 09:13

mitogoshi · 17/03/2024 08:59

I'm with you op, and on motorways there's loads of services so can't see the problem with stopping at them. Modern tech means it's easier than ever to locate somewhere to stop. That said when caught in a 3 hour traffic jam on the m25 a few years back it was hilarious for my DD's and I seeing the line of men along the hard shoulder edge weeing, a lesson in men being pathetic we thought as we hung on until whatever was the cause was finally sorted out and we eventually made fleet services on the m3. I wouldn't let (now ex) h out the car saying if we had to wait so did heGrin

You sound really ignorant and I hope you never get to a position where you cant wait. Forcing your OH to not go to the toilet its abusive.

Not everyone travels on motorways where there are services. And I can go at one services but still need to go before the next one unfortunately

Lots of little local garages you find on A roads dont have toilets in them and Ive also found on the toilet app, that making your way to a toilet doesnt mean its open.

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 17/03/2024 09:13

I do have the utmost respect for people with a medical reason for urgency…, been there to a degree and so did my late father. Ibet most people who do “invest” in a solution and aren’t the ones blatantly pissing in front of the passing traffic and making lay-bys stink

How do know whether they have medical conditions or not? Do you pull over and check?

I have no diagnosis but I've always had a weak bladder and if I'm desperate, I'm going to pull over otherwise it becomes painful and distracting and ultimately quite dangerous if I'm trying to concentrate on the road.

I'm not going to "invest in a solution" either.

onawave · 17/03/2024 09:11

There was a time years ago when I got stuck in a 7 hour jam because of the dartford bridge being closed that involved a Costa coffee cup and me contorting myself into a position that was pretty undignified. I wish I'd been able to get to a lay-by.

Tumbleweed101 · 17/03/2024 09:11

We need better facilities to stop it rather blaming those caught short in a traffic jam.

Travelling in Canada and the US was a much nicer experience. There were toilets dotted along the highway within about a 15min drive from the last one, even without other services alongside them. Every place we visited had customer toilets too.

soupfiend · 17/03/2024 09:09

Is about being discreet.

I am required to drink 2ltrs of liquid a day, I never make that amount but even on a smaller amount it leaves me needing the toilet a lot and at my age it comes on very suddenly. Im afraid I have had accidents.

There arent enough toilets and if you get stuck in traffic you're done for.

Weeing is a natural thing, it needs to happen when it needs to happen. I try to take the opportunity to whereever there is a toilet but that doesnt always save me.

And I dont know what medical solutions you are referring to OP, age is something that you cant medicate yourself out of.

Cornettoninja · 17/03/2024 09:07

I do have the utmost respect for people with a medical reason for urgency

how do you know the ones you’re talking about don’t? These issues are pretty common.

InTheRainOnATrain · 17/03/2024 09:07

Meh, pee is sterile, ok so it’s a bit wiffy but I couldn’t get upset about it. You don’t know who has a medical condition, lots of older chaps have prostate issues for example, and I’ve just got through potty training with DS2 so I’d be a hypocrite to complain about humans peeing outdoors 🤣 So long as it’s discreet and it’s somewhere a dog would pee then whatever. Now all the dog poo al over the pavements, that’s a real issue and really fucking disgusting.

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