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AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

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Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:27

Item in the news- Dacorum Borough Council have stopped issuing fines for wild wees in lay-bys.
I know that this is on a technicality (anti littering law used and wild wees not classed as litter) but I think people weeing in lay-bys is appalling. It should be subject to fines. I can forgive toddlers/ young children but not adults. There are solutions for those with medical conditions that mean urgent wees are a symptom. And it’s always men. Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic. AIBU?

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Mischance · 06/07/2025 21:07

As the little girl said, on first seeing a little boy have a wee while they were out in the countryside ... "That's a useful thing to bring on a picnic!"

cobrakaieaglefang · 06/07/2025 16:45

JohnofWessex · 06/07/2025 16:13

Plant bushes in lay bye's

Sorted

Prickly bushes!

JohnofWessex · 06/07/2025 16:13

Plant bushes in lay bye's

Sorted

scalt · 06/07/2025 16:04

And delivery drivers and workmen can’t ask to use householders’ toilets, in case they then face trial by Mumsnet.

LakieLady · 06/07/2025 15:32

suburburban · 17/03/2024 12:33

Also if people are on tight driving schedules or working in a remote location it can be difficult to have accessible toilets

My previous job involved visiting people at home and most of my patch was rural. I'd generally be able to have a pee in a client's house, but there were several occasions when a client cancelled at the last minute or simply wasn't at home.

I've had to have several pees in woods or gateways to fields as a consequence.

MNpenisadvisor · 06/07/2025 15:24

I'm heavily pregnant if I need to piss and it's a layby or my pants and car I'll piss outside where it'll be washed away by rain and hurt NOONE

LakieLady · 06/07/2025 15:08

CormorantStrikesBack · 17/03/2024 08:51

This. Our city has shut 99% of the public toilets due to cost. Other countries have much better facilities both in urban areas and on roadsides. Here unless you can find a shop toilet you can use or a motorway service station you’re stuck

The public bogs where I live are all closed between 7pm and 7am. Anyone caught short between those hours have a choice between a public pee or pissing their pants.

LakieLady · 06/07/2025 15:04

Ofcourseshecan · 17/03/2024 08:41

May you never suffer from a dodgy bladder in a 5-mile tailback on the motorway, OP.

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Just what I was thinking. I was once stuck in traffic on the M25 that didn't move at all for 4 hours, and loads of people were having to pee on the hard shoulder.

I didn't need a pee on that occasion, but I once had to stop for one in a layby on the A303. It was 3 in the morning and back then (early 80s) there were hardly any 24-hour services on that road.

Toddlerteaplease · 06/07/2025 14:55

I was driving in the M5 and a bloke and his two kids, must have been 10,11ish were parked on the hard shoulder and peri g off a bridge!

EdwinaIronside · 06/07/2025 13:43

hopscotcher · 17/03/2024 09:23

I once had a wee in a layby. It was 5 a.m. and the road was quiet so I hoped I'd get away with it. If I'd thought I could get arrested that would have given it an extra exciting edge.

Same as covert urban weeing. Is there unseen CCTV? Am I being watched? Will that fox report me?

scalt · 06/07/2025 13:23

We can talk about anti-weeing bylaws when there are far more public loos.

And when service areas stop putting the loos right in the depths of the buildings, so you have to walk past the overpriced tat.

Eagle2025 · 06/07/2025 09:15

Ok the few moments when you get out the car to walk to the bin then yes you might notice it. Maybe instead of checking notes in laybys just check them when you get to the town/city you are visiting. Personally I dont like spending any longer than necessary in laybys due to the danger due to the speed of the traffic passing. If you say the men in question should drive on to the nearest services then why dont you.

Thriftnugget · 06/07/2025 09:01

@Eagle2025 hanging around no, driving past, yes. Seeing one or two men urinating pretty regularly. Doesn’t bother me in the moment but when I too need to use a similar lay-by (dispose of rubbish, use my phone, check some notes - I drive long distances for work) and find it stinks of urine then I find my objection forms.
blimey, this thread has really brought out some interesting ways of thinking- yeah, course I spend my life hanging around in lay-bys 🙄

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Eagle2025 · 06/07/2025 08:41

Thriftnugget · 06/07/2025 08:35

When I posted this I really didn’t express myself well. Yes, like everyone else I have been caught short. The AIBU was referring to open lay-bys within 3 miles of a Services where men (specifically men) can regularly be seen taking a p@££ and consequently such lay-bys become extremely unpleasant. Not about the desperate circumstances of being in a long traffic jam or in need but nowhere to use within a reasonable distance. Extenuating circumstances aside I don’t think IABU to want people to not urinate in public areas. Including lay bys on A roads.

Are you really hanging around at laybys that often that this is an issue for you? There is a reason why it's a lot easier for a man to take a quick wee at the side of the road.

Thriftnugget · 06/07/2025 08:35

When I posted this I really didn’t express myself well. Yes, like everyone else I have been caught short. The AIBU was referring to open lay-bys within 3 miles of a Services where men (specifically men) can regularly be seen taking a p@££ and consequently such lay-bys become extremely unpleasant. Not about the desperate circumstances of being in a long traffic jam or in need but nowhere to use within a reasonable distance. Extenuating circumstances aside I don’t think IABU to want people to not urinate in public areas. Including lay bys on A roads.

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TunnocksOrDeath · 05/07/2025 21:57

A few years ago, DC and I were stuck behind a traffic accident on a A road with nowhere to turn off, and took 2 hours to go 2 miles. Luckily we didn't have to go, but I don't judge the people who did.

NewIcedC0ffee · 05/07/2025 21:21

You have never been stuck on a motorway for hours & hours then, when the air ambulance landed !

1 man rushed to do a xxxx
100 men rushed to join him !

Yep I have done it too on the odd occasion
Too many road closures, accidents, bad weather

InterestedDad37 · 05/07/2025 21:08

Greater decorum needed in Dacorum 👍🙂

miamiamia869 · 05/07/2025 21:04

Anyone that says you are being reasonable are just blessed with a clean beale of bladder and pelvic floor health.

Before babies I had a weak bladder. After a epitosmy and 4th degree tear my pelvic floor is shattered along with a prolapse bladder.

I can wee myself with no warning anywhere anytime. If I get to the lay by I am lucky and wil 100% use it.

Saymyname28 · 18/03/2024 14:37

It's always men you see becuase women have to hide better.

I've peed in all sorts of places. If it's a choice between pissing on the ground or pissing my pants it's really not a choice. There are so few public toilets available nowadays it's disgusting.

deragod · 18/03/2024 14:16

This is cultural.

Proper wild wees - not ideal but fine.
However, pavements, alleys and side roads are not wild areas.

It stars in childhood. Sometime ago there was a whole thread about poor boys who need to wee against trees on school run. School run. They cannot walk 15 minutes between one building fitted with toilets to another.
Girls who have may already experience UTIs are told to wait.

My neighbours's son likes to pee on their drive way. Just because.
Simone de Beauvoir wrote about it extensively in The Second Sex.
Men have bigger bladders, storage lees water in body cells, and are not affected by ovarian cysts and pregnancies. Yet, it is always men who have to piss all over.
Doesn't matter city center or motorway.

I have seen:
a man peeing on a bin - right by the pub doors, man peeing on the middle on the pavement - opposite the pub he just left, taxi driver filling in bottle by the pavement where women were passing by - by the train station with open public loos, teenagers peeing by the wall of someone's house - in the park, with open, free of charge public loos.

In Germany, I saw bunch of men peeing against the wall of public toilets because they did not want to pay 50 eurocents.

Men know it is not ok, they just do not care. I know fathers who see the problem, my own would challenge every man being so disgusting.
He is a very active 80 years old. Had his share of wild wees, I had too. Camping, treking etc. etc.
What was one of the first things I learnt about camping was to dig a hole and once you are done burry the evidence. However, facilities are much better nowadays anyway.

Chonk · 18/03/2024 13:27

IBegYourBiggestPardon · 18/03/2024 13:13

@Chonk did you fail to miss the part where I said one route there isn't a service station at all, just lay by's?! I'm pretty sure he'd much rather pull in to a service station and use a proper toilet facilities then have to stand behind the Truck to have a piss whilst hoping no one pulls up behind him.

@IBegYourBiggestPardon Nope, I didn't miss that, but it still doesn't stop him from using a portable male urinal and emptying it once he does reach a toilet. Once sealed he wouldn't even know it was there. I agree there should be better facilities en route, but that doesn't justify his laziness.

IBegYourBiggestPardon · 18/03/2024 13:22

@Chonk so no he isn't being ridiculous. What is ridiculous is the lack of places for Truckers to pull into that have proper facilities, and no one should have to drive round with a bottle of piss sat next to them.

IBegYourBiggestPardon · 18/03/2024 13:13

@Chonk did you fail to miss the part where I said one route there isn't a service station at all, just lay by's?! I'm pretty sure he'd much rather pull in to a service station and use a proper toilet facilities then have to stand behind the Truck to have a piss whilst hoping no one pulls up behind him.

IloveAslan · 18/03/2024 07:58

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. YABU.

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